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The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens!

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How many wins do you expect the Suns to have this season?

61+
4
5%
56-60
0
No votes
51-55
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No votes
46-50
4
5%
41-45
16
21%
36-40
14
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31-35
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27%
26-30
14
18%
25 or under
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6%
 
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#1841 » by KdoubleDees23 » Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:42 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:Actually I think the rotation becomes:

Green/ Gillespie/ Goodwin or Butler.
Booker/ Allen/ Brea.
Brooks/ Dunn/ O'neale.
Davis/ Fleming/ Ighodaro.
Williams/ Richards/ Maluach.

J Green as the PG because he's the much better ballhandler and driver, and he can't really shoot well yet, so putting him at SG wouldn't create any gravity. Also, Booker could excel in his natural role at SG and be an exceptional secondary playmaker.

Oso would be the 3rd rotation 4 because Maluach can hit the three. Fleming pairs with Richards as he's able to faceup and hit the three to compliment Richards as a non spacing center option.


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Post#1842 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:53 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:Actually I think the rotation becomes:

Green/ Gillespie/ Goodwin or Butler.
Booker/ Allen/ Brea.
Brooks/ Dunn/ O'neale.
Davis/ Fleming/ Ighodaro.
Williams/ Richards/ Maluach.

J Green as the PG because he's the much better ballhandler and driver, and he can't really shoot well yet, so putting him at SG wouldn't create any gravity. Also, Booker could excel in his natural role at SG and be an exceptional secondary playmaker.

Oso would be the 3rd rotation 4 because Maluach can hit the three. Fleming pairs with Richards as he's able to faceup and hit the three to compliment Richards as a non spacing center option.

I agree with dremill24 the debate on position is kind of moot, it's far more important to talk about roles than positions which is traditionally associated with a type of role.

The fact is, Green is literally half the playmaker Book is so Book/we gain nothing from moving him off ball where he will end up having to create plays for himself and the team anyway. Might as well just keep the ball Book's hands. Also Green can shoot, it's just not reflected in his shooting stats because his shot selection is typically awful. If you look at his catch and shoot % from 3, it's 40.9% which is very solid. For context, KD shot 46.2% last season, Steph shot 43.3%, Klay shot 42.4% and Derrick White shot 40.9%. The issue with Green is poor shot selection exasperated by an aversion to being a play finisher as opposed to his preference as a shot creator. Even when Book had the least amount of playmaking help during the 2017-2019 seasons, about 32% of his 2P shots were assisted and between 58-76% of his 3s were assisted. Surprisingly outside of his early career, Book has had the highest % of his 2P and 3P shots assisted (43% and 72%) than any anther other time in his career this past season. Jalen Green this past season only had 26% of his 2P shot coming from an assist and 54% of his 3s were assisted. The guy just love to create and the selection of shots he create are typically poor.

So yes, I would prefer not to have Point Book but in the absence of a playmaker, Point Book is the best we have
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Post#1843 » by Frank Lee » Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:53 am

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Although I don't like the salary/ cap implications, I do like the idea of getting Holiday in a trade if possible…..


So you want the player but not the contract? Either go back on your meds or cut your dosage. Better yet, just stop shopping for every Tom Dick and Harry that the clickbaiting media deems tradable.

32.4
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for a dude who is 35


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You know Frank, it is possible to like the idea of a player contextually as a fit (competitively) but not like the salary that he's getting paid. Holiday would be great here for our needs, but not at his salary. Does that make sense to you? If not, go take a nap and some metamucil and marinate on it until it does.

Also, if you have such an issue with my trade ideas/ suggestions, please feel free to just scroll past or use the ignore option. Not sure why you're so cranky or wound up about discussions on a message board anyways. This is a sports forum and we are here to discuss our thoughts, ideas and opinions on our team after all.

And this is the offseason in which that contextually happens. Again, if my posts are apparently causing you such distress and roidal flareup, just ignore them and move on................ unless you're just seeking attention at my expense. I understand that it gets lonely at times as you get older, but just take a nap and get ready for bingo or whatever they're doing at your rest home k. Everything will get better! :D


Oh I see… I can’t make a comment about the manure you spread? I thought you said this was a forum for discussion? Get over yourself… you post stupid shttt you will be and should be notified. ‘Contextual fit’ …. that’s a laugher. There’s 50 dudes you could apply that blow harding logic to. But you do you bro.

And low hanging fruit with the ‘old guy’ routine. I suppose that’s all you got. You don’t know me. Funny stuff tho. Content is what matters. Last I checked there were no age parameters…. But, better to be old than a flat out fantasizer. We all know of your obsession with the trade machine. Volume over validity. You post because you have to post….you need to post. But hey, we all have our vices.

Furthermore, you have neither the ability nor substance to provoke anything more than ‘that guy is a dummmshtt’ from me. I pass disagreeing on about 90% of your content knowing you’ll have some long winded explanation further solidifying your dummmshttness, usually ending with :dontknow: Been there, done that. Still, I’ll give you props when you deserve them.

And Trust me, you haven’t seen cranky….caustic may be, but that’s a far cry from cranky. My cranky anyways. This shttt is still kind of fun.
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Post#1844 » by garrick » Thu Jul 24, 2025 2:12 am

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KdoubleDees23 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Depth chart IMO:

PG Booker/Gillespie/Goodwin
SG Green/Allen/Brea*
SF Dunn/O'Neale/Hayes-Davis
PF Brooks/Oso/Fleming
C Williams/Maluach/Richards


I have

Booker / Gillespie / Goodwin
Green / Allen / Butler
Brooks / O'Neale
Dunn / Hayes-Davis / Oso / Fleming
Williams / Richards / Maluach

Fun team that will hustle and no silent divas!


This is how I think it'll be looking like:

G: Green - Gillespie - Goodwin - Butler
G: Booker - Allen - Brea - Butler
F: Brooks - O'Neale - Hayes - Livers
F: Dunn - Ighodaro - Hayes - Fleming
C: Williams - Richards - Maluach - Huntley

*I'll go on record and say none of the rookies will be any good in year one. None will get significant burn.

*The center position scares me. Mark Williams is always hurt. Richards has shown nothing of value. Maluach is 3 years away from doing anything and is dangerously close to being Thabeet material.


Even if the rookies meet expectations this isn't a playoff calbar team maaaybe at best a play in team but even then I think other teams like Portland and SA will have us in the bottom 4 in the West.

Now with a lack of draft assets the only thing to look forward to is seeing how to offload Grayson or Royce for future assets and salary cap relief because obviously tanking will not get us a top 5 pick.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#1845 » by bigfoot » Thu Jul 24, 2025 2:23 am

KdoubleDees23 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Actually I think the rotation becomes:

Green/ Gillespie/ Goodwin or Butler.
Booker/ Allen/ Brea.
Brooks/ Dunn/ O'neale.
Davis/ Fleming/ Ighodaro.
Williams/ Richards/ Maluach.

J Green as the PG because he's the much better ballhandler and driver, and he can't really shoot well yet, so putting him at SG wouldn't create any gravity. Also, Booker could excel in his natural role at SG and be an exceptional secondary playmaker.

Oso would be the 3rd rotation 4 because Maluach can hit the three. Fleming pairs with Richards as he's able to faceup and hit the three to compliment Richards as a non spacing center option.


Hayes Davis is going to shock you! He wants this more than anything and is going to be a great signing


Wouldn't be surprised to see him get a starting nod. He'll easily accept a 3-D role and can handle it. However, it's more than likely he will be the primary sixth-man coming off the bench for offense. You have to ask when Book and Green are resting who has the green light to attack the basket. It's pretty thin for offense so I would expect Hayes-Davis and Gillespie to led the charge. I could see him playing at both SF/PF positions and earning 25+ minutes a game.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#1846 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Jul 24, 2025 3:01 am

bigfoot wrote:
KdoubleDees23 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Actually I think the rotation becomes:

Green/ Gillespie/ Goodwin or Butler.
Booker/ Allen/ Brea.
Brooks/ Dunn/ O'neale.
Davis/ Fleming/ Ighodaro.
Williams/ Richards/ Maluach.

J Green as the PG because he's the much better ballhandler and driver, and he can't really shoot well yet, so putting him at SG wouldn't create any gravity. Also, Booker could excel in his natural role at SG and be an exceptional secondary playmaker.

Oso would be the 3rd rotation 4 because Maluach can hit the three. Fleming pairs with Richards as he's able to faceup and hit the three to compliment Richards as a non spacing center option.


Hayes Davis is going to shock you! He wants this more than anything and is going to be a great signing


Wouldn't be surprised to see him get a starting nod. He'll easily accept a 3-D role and can handle it. However, it's more than likely he will be the primary sixth-man coming off the bench for offense. You have to ask when Book and Green are resting who has the green light to attack the basket. It's pretty thin for offense so I would expect Hayes-Davis and Gillespie to led the charge. I could see him playing at both SF/PF positions and earning 25+ minutes a game.


I just think that he starts due to his shotmaking/ spacing ability next to Williams since Williams can't really shoot. And then Fleming can be the backup 4 next to Richards or possibly even interchangeably with Ighodaro due to his shooting ability.


But Davis would get the starting nod over Fleming primarily due to actual NBA experience and versatility that Fleming currently doesn't possess yet. Really, Davis and Fleming are currently our only floor spacing big men. If you can consider Davis at 6'8 as a frontcourt big??
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Post#1847 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Jul 24, 2025 4:32 am

Frank Lee wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Frank Lee wrote:
So you want the player but not the contract? Either go back on your meds or cut your dosage. Better yet, just stop shopping for every Tom Dick and Harry that the clickbaiting media deems tradable.

32.4
34.8
37.2 MILLION
for a dude who is 35


Lol!
You know Frank, it is possible to like the idea of a player contextually as a fit (competitively) but not like the salary that he's getting paid. Holiday would be great here for our needs, but not at his salary. Does that make sense to you? If not, go take a nap and some metamucil and marinate on it until it does.

Also, if you have such an issue with my trade ideas/ suggestions, please feel free to just scroll past or use the ignore option. Not sure why you're so cranky or wound up about discussions on a message board anyways. This is a sports forum and we are here to discuss our thoughts, ideas and opinions on our team after all.

And this is the offseason in which that contextually happens. Again, if my posts are apparently causing you such distress and roidal flareup, just ignore them and move on................ unless you're just seeking attention at my expense. I understand that it gets lonely at times as you get older, but just take a nap and get ready for bingo or whatever they're doing at your rest home k. Everything will get better! :D


Oh I see… I can’t make a comment about the manure you spread? I thought you said this was a forum for discussion? Get over yourself… you post stupid shttt you will be and should be notified. ‘Contextual fit’ …. that’s a laugher. There’s 50 dudes you could apply that blow harding logic to. But you do you bro.

And low hanging fruit with the ‘old guy’ routine. I suppose that’s all you got. You don’t know me. Funny stuff tho. Content is what matters. Last I checked there were no age parameters…. But, better to be old than a flat out fantasizer. We all know of your obsession with the trade machine. Volume over validity. You post because you have to post….you need to post. But hey, we all have our vices.

Furthermore, you have neither the ability nor substance to provoke anything more than ‘that guy is a dummmshtt’ from me. I pass disagreeing on about 90% of your content knowing you’ll have some long winded explanation further solidifying your dummmshttness, usually ending with :dontknow: Been there, done that. Still, I’ll give you props when you deserve them.

And Trust me, you haven’t seen cranky….caustic may be, but that’s a far cry from cranky. My cranky anyways. This shttt is still kind of fun.


Lol!
Of course you can make comments about how you dislike my posts and ideas or view them as "manure" or " dumbsh** content while constantly never being able to offer anything constructive or creative in the way of trade suggestions yourself, because you obviously just lack the creativity/ objectivity and that's inherently wherein your resentment rowards my ideas/ suggestions come from.

Well that and your obvious aversion to change (around our team contextually) as is customary with age to which I can emphasize with more these days. The thing is Frank, everyone knows this is who I am, just like everyone knows what your schtick is around here.

I post trades and ideas to foster discussions and thought exercises exploring the possibilities regarding our roster, potential trade premises and other varying discussion topics contextually around our team. That's who I am, a person/ lifelong fan always seeking possibilities towards discussions for roster improvements and asset acquisitions.

You refer to my posts and ideas as " manure" and "dumbsh** content yet you are obviously obsessed with them to the point of being incapable of not responding, and disappointingly enough are still clearly incapable of offering any semblance of civilized, constructive or even contextually creative suggestions.

Or really any discussion topics of actual substance beyond your very atypical condescending snarky remarks, clever quips, and veiled barbs towards others that you disagree with subjectively.

But that's just who you are. You attack others that you disagree with instead of openly and " in good faith" having constructive discussions regarding differing perspectives. You're right, I don't know you, just as you don't really know me either. But you get the cranky ol' man schtick due to your pattern snarky attitude and salty responses.

And you're right that I post a lot of trade premises and ideas, because I'm always seeking the potential competitive improvement of our team, and view many people on this board as highly intellectual and informative on the topics and look forward to shared discussions on things. Even you, despite your condescending and chastising nature.

So call it and obsession if you like, perhaps it is, much like your obsession with responding to my posts in you're all too predictable inflammatory condescending and derogatory manner that is sadly predictable and beyond the limits of your self control apparently too. But I understand that you just do that because you crave a reaction/ response.............. Vices huh?........lol

But it is funny that despite how you promote my posts as being "manure" and dumbsh** content, and lacking any real substance, you're so obsessed and triggered with whatever I post that you are simply incapable of not responding.

And apparently despite whatever excuses you give to warrant your typical crass responses, it seems this dumbsh** lives rent free in your head.
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Post#1848 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Jul 24, 2025 4:44 am

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This should work out famously!
1- Which player is the better shooter to draw defenders away from double teams?

2- Full time point Guard with Booker's hamstring issues.

3- Which player is the better ballhandler/ downhill driver ( might be important for kickouts to shooters.

Just a few considerations around "point book."
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Post#1849 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:26 am

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This should work out famously!
1- Which player is the better shooter to draw defenders away from double teams?

2- Full time point Guard with Booker's hamstring issues.

3- Which player is the better ballhandler/ downhill driver ( might be important for kickouts to shooters.

Just a few considerations around "point book."

The fact is Booker is a significantly better playmaker than Green. No one is super keen for Point Book but he's the best option we have in that role. Book is also a better drive and kick passer than Green for that matter. In every measure and stat available, Book is the better player, better playmaker, has the better court vision and has far more experience as the offensive hub, for better or for worse.

I acknowledge Book's injury issue and it is not something I consider lightly but if you want to move him off ball, we're going to be worse offensively
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Post#1850 » by sunsbg » Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:32 am

Absolutely amazing being in exact same position like last year forced to play Booker at PG with Green and Gillespie in Beal and Jones roles. Top management.
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Post#1851 » by sunsbum » Thu Jul 24, 2025 6:01 am

I like the summer when the drought of suns news kicks in. We start turning on each other like a hamster eating her babies.
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Post#1852 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Jul 24, 2025 6:40 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
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This should work out famously!
1- Which player is the better shooter to draw defenders away from double teams?

2- Full time point Guard with Booker's hamstring issues.

3- Which player is the better ballhandler/ downhill driver ( might be important for kickouts to shooters.

Just a few considerations around "point book."

The fact is Booker is a significantly better playmaker than Green. No one is super keen for Point Book but he's the best option we have in that role. Book is also a better drive and kick passer than Green for that matter. In every measure and stat available, Book is the better player, better playmaker, has the better court vision and has far more experience as the offensive hub, for better or for worse.

I acknowledge Book's injury issue and it is not something I consider lightly but if you want to move him off ball, we're going to be worse offensively


You're very right, and I get that consideration. But the problems surrounding this in the most basic sense is two fold.

1- Point Book will only once again lead to double and triple teams that have previously proven effective in taking the ball out of his hands or forcing a turnover under pressure.

Green not being the better established shooter/ scorer ( efficiency, etc) playing the SG role will only exacerbate this as defenses will know that they can sag off of Green more to double and triple team Booker to force him to cough up the ball or render him ineffective offensively.

But in his time playing at the PG position for Houston, his shooting efficiency, playmaking and other metrics did improve/ increase. So with better spacing (playing off of Booker in my suggested premise) I believe both players can optimize their natural skillsets/ abilities to their utmost potential.

2- Booker's natural position is SG and his elite skillset is shooting/ scoring. In this point Book scenario not only is he being underutilized in a role that doesn't compliment his elite natural abilities,

And it's going to put much more pressure on him to create because Green again won't pull the defense away from him as aggressively to give him space to even operate as a high level playmaker.

The difference now being that before, even despite their concerns, having KD and Beal (both elite established scoring threats) gave him space to operate effectively. But Green doesn't carry that reputation. Booker will get blitzed, and even if he could somehow pass out, which player would be the more advantageous scoring proposition situationally??

Would you rather hinge games on Booker passing to other lesser scoring options? Or being the elite offensive weapon recieving the pass from Green. I ask this because I believe that Green is possibly/ can be (with more spacing) a more dynamic ballhandler and isolalation penetrator that should be having the ball to pass to Booker as the much better elite shooter/ scorer.

Lastly, the usage/ minutes/ injury consideration. Which role do people think would put more pressure/ risk of injury on Booker's hamstring??

Constantly having the ball and trying to break down defenses to create offense, or to spot up, flare, pick n roll recieving a pass in natural motion offensively to score and flex defenses while still being an elite secondary facilitator through reactionary defensive pulls?

I'm just looking at maximizing Booker's best natural elite talents over trying an experiment that repeatedly limited his elite abilities in a lesser unnatural role.

He's simply much better and more elite at SG. And because Green is the lesser shooter but better and more athletic/dynamic ballhandler, he should be the point guard to free up Booker to be the elite scoring assasin he was in our finals run again!

I'd much rather have the defenses blitzing Green and have him passing out to Booker if double or triple teamed that the inverse.
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Post#1853 » by garrick » Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:20 am

Book should just practice being blitzed by double and triple teams and make him try to make the correct play in the off season.

He gets tunnel vision and doesn't look up the court when that happens and ends up coughing up the ball in high pressure situations. Point Book will work until late in the game when teams are well aware of his turnover issues and him no longer having KD will hurt even more because the defense is only going to care about leaving Grayson open and will be all to happy to leave everyone else wide open.
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Post#1854 » by Saberestar » Thu Jul 24, 2025 9:10 am

TheIVpointplay is great analyzing the Suns and he is all in about Book at PG. Here is what he said about that in X:

Just my opinion but being critical of what Devin Booker is set to earn over next 5 years while simultaneously stating he should play as a traditional SG next to a full-time PG - seems a bit disingenuous or something?

Margin for error to *earn* that $ is much slimmer if you put him in that box. & there is more than enough evidence that going the other route is certainly worth it.

Especially if you consider the limitations PHX have right now & how much a move like that would limit elsewhere.

Yes, the Suns were GREAT with CP3. But it dictated the rest of the roster in a way that they had to thread a needle & they still almost did.

How many guys are out there that can do what that version of CP3 did? And how many can PHX realistically add?

Not afraid to be wrong & welcome different opinions. But I will tell you one thing for damn sure. Zero reason to start Tyus Jones next to Book just to keep some BS convention. List of players who can create advantages for a team better than Book is A LOT shorter than you think.

I've been waiting for this for 3 years. Hell, I've been talking about it in some capacity for nearly 7.

Right or wrong, I am excited the tea leaves are suggesting we are going to finally find out.
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Post#1855 » by Puff » Thu Jul 24, 2025 10:13 am

Does it really matter who are point guard will be next year?

It seems to me that all the good teams in today's NBA have tremendous ball movement. Ott was reportedly the architect of the Cleveland offense last year. As long as the ball does not stick in anyone's hands like it did last year with Book and KD, I will be fine. Call Book the point guard if you want but it better not stick in his hands for most of the shot clock. That goes for everyone. If you do not keep the ball moving, you just do not play. That should go for Book as well.
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Post#1856 » by Frank Lee » Thu Jul 24, 2025 11:17 am

Jeezus Ghost…. Let me remind you it was you who said he’d like to trade for Holiday if possible. ……
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Yes, it was me who thought that was a dummmshtt idea…. alleging some degree of mental instability and then advised some constraint. You walked it back with an ‘in context only’ caveat/explanation as if I was unable to comprehend your imaginative genius, along with several old man barbs. ‘In Context’ is the richest retort to date. A beautiful get out of jail free card. That’s all ok… but such verbal jousting does warrant a response. Which, in hindsight, was a mistake knowing the passive aggressive word bomb to follow. At least you are consistent if not predictable.

No need to address all the points of your War and Peace rebuttal, you are correct, I don’t suggest trades very often. I stay away from the TMachine. There is a fine line between creative and crap.
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So whatever dude…. Keep doing what you do, who am I to say stop?

But don’t think you can put frosting on a turd and call it cake.

I will repeat my advice… check your meds …. cut the saintly for the good of the board routine…. and stay off my lawn
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#1857 » by Calvin Klein » Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:00 pm

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This should work out famously!
1- Which player is the better shooter to draw defenders away from double teams?

2- Full time point Guard with Booker's hamstring issues.

3- Which player is the better ballhandler/ downhill driver ( might be important for kickouts to shooters.

Just a few considerations around "point book."




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Post#1858 » by Frank Lee » Thu Jul 24, 2025 12:16 pm

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This should work out famously!
1- Which player is the better shooter to draw defenders away from double teams?

2- Full time point Guard with Booker's hamstring issues.

3- Which player is the better ballhandler/ downhill driver ( might be important for kickouts to shooters.

Just a few considerations around "point book."




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"We have the best SG in the league, let's play him at PG during his prime, it has worked out great so far".


Yet he is the best we have. At least we have Gillespie if things go a awry
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#1859 » by Saberestar » Thu Jul 24, 2025 3:36 pm

Gambo:
Adjustment here
Plan will likely be Green starting at PG not Booker
Gillespie as the backup
With Goodwin and Butler battling for 3rd PG

Jalen Green's numbers when Fred Van Vleet was out last season and he ran the point were actually decent. Green averaged 19.1 points, 4.5 rebounds and 4.1 assists in 22 games without VanVleet in 2024-25. Had 8 games of 5 or more assists, had 10 assists versus Jazz and 8 against New Orleans and Orlando.


So after all this talk about Point Book he isn't gonna be the primary ball handler (at least for the start of the season).
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread #4 Free Agency Opens! 

Post#1860 » by bigfoot » Thu Jul 24, 2025 3:37 pm

Damn people. It's amazing the point Book crying and whining out here. Kobe was a shooting guard but the primary ball handler for all the Lakers championships during his tenure.

Career average for Kobe 25p 5.2r 4.7a 3.0to .329 3pt%, .447fg%, .826ft%
Career average for Book 24.4p 4.0r 5.2a 3.0to .354 3pt% .464fg% .873ft%

Fact is, you should always put the ball into the hands of your best player and live or die with it.

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