Jeff Teague says LeBron was on roids in Miami

[Lockdown504090]

people really cant understand a joke..
[x]

Read on Twitter

?s=51&t=X9mumPGLsRqqzpaDgtqZBg[/x]

[madmaxmedia]

The average gym bro is on gear but people refuse to believe that professional athletes aren't doing everything possible to gain the upper hand on their competition. Crazy.

I agree, the only thing I'll add is that I don't think LeBron deserves more scrutiny than other NBA players potentially using PED's. I always figured the pro athletes with most incentive were the 2nd/3rd stringers trying to stay in the league, vs. the superstars who were going to be pretty successful either way.

Back when Lance Armstrong was dominating the Tour de France, they were almost all taking PED's, his team just happened to be the best at it (his responses and behavior to the accusations was abhorrent though.)

[LakerLegend]

The average gym bro is on gear but people refuse to believe that professional athletes aren't doing everything possible to gain the upper hand on their competition. Crazy.

I agree, the only thing I'll add is that I don't think LeBron deserves more scrutiny than other NBA players potentially using PED's. I always figured the pro athletes with most incentive were the 2nd/3rd stringers trying to stay in the league, vs. the superstars who were going to be pretty successful either way.

Back when Lance Armstrong was dominating the Tour de France, they were almost all taking PED's, his team just happened to be the best at it (his responses and behavior to the accusations was abhorrent though.)

Of course he deserves more scrutiny. His longevity, durability, stamina, athleticism are such historical outliers that on top of the other smoke around this topic means there are more red flags around him than other players.

[LakerLegend]

So LeBron is a 6-8 260 pound tank that also runs like a guard and jumps out the gym, never gets tired, never gets injured, and has played 20 years at a superstar level all of which is a combination we’ve never seen anything remotely close to before or since and yet, according to the LeBron fans it’s absolutely outrageous to even have a speculatory discussion?

[LakerLegend]

The LeBron fans have also shifted their argument over the years from “no way LeBron is on anything it’s all baseless unfounded hate” to “well, everyone’s on something!”

[MavsDirk41]

Im sure James is and has been on some sort of PEDs like alot of other professional athletes and i could care less. What amuses me is his fan base going bonkers over it. He could come out and admit it and some of you guys would still be in denial.

The only person that goes bonkers over the subject is the poster Lakers Legends who's a huge Kobe fan. He's obsessed with James and steroids.

Do you really think Lebron James has never utilized PEDs in his nba career?

[Cavsfansince84]

ill speak for me...I don't mind that LBJ does gear. it gave me more years to watch LBJ perform at a high level which is a win for me. I wish MJ did gear if it could have him still playing like 86 MJ today...and I wish Luka would get on gear so he could reach is peak potential.

I don't mean to single you out but I don't get the general assumption that 90's guys couldn't have been taking stuff. I think chances are that Karl was on something. As you and others have mentioned, by the 90's entire sports were swamped with ped use/scanadals(some going back to the 70's). I don't understand why bb fans today will single out LeBron and Wade yet think that MJ, Malone, Shaq, Kobe and others couldn't have been on stuff as well which includes epo.

[JimmyPlopper]

It's interesting because if Teague is lying, it would be a pretty easy libel/slander lawsuit I'd have to think.

[OkcSinceSGA]

In today’s news, water is wet.

[Iwasawitness]

Any stars playing at an elite level into their 40s are going to be on some kind of PED, Lebron, Brady, Curry, Djokovic etc. It pretty much a given and not really worth much of a discussion. The part that was most interesting to me is the fact that Teague was forced to issue a retraction only a few hours after making his original comment. It shows you how much control Lebron and his team have over the NBA media landscape and how much manufacturing goes into maintaining his image. If Teague had said something critical of KD, it would have ended up in a long drawn out twitter battle with both sides presenting their arguments over social media. When he says something critical of Lebron, he immediately gets sent to the principal's office and told that any form of dissent to the king will not be tolerated.

He made a retraction because someone probably told him the following:

1: hey buddy, you got the timeline wrong.

2: you better say you were kidding unless you want to be sued.

It's one thing to claim the league is covering something up related to PED use. Outright stating a player was using steroids however, especially when you have nothing substantial to back it up (like everyone in this thread claiming LeBron uses them) is setting yourself up for potential legal trouble. And in this case, with Teague not only being completely wrong about the timeline but having no evidence whatsoever to backup his claim, it's a case he'd pretty easily lose.

Why hasn’t chael sonnen retracted?

Idk, why don't you ask him?

[LakerLegend]

He made a retraction because someone probably told him the following:

1: hey buddy, you got the timeline wrong.

2: you better say you were kidding unless you want to be sued.

It's one thing to claim the league is covering something up related to PED use. Outright stating a player was using steroids however, especially when you have nothing substantial to back it up (like everyone in this thread claiming LeBron uses them) is setting yourself up for potential legal trouble. And in this case, with Teague not only being completely wrong about the timeline but having no evidence whatsoever to backup his claim, it's a case he'd pretty easily lose.

Why hasn’t chael sonnen retracted?

Idk, why don't you ask him?

Well, you’ve been speaking so definitely that LeBron isn’t on anything so I figured you’d know.

[Iwasawitness]

Remember when they announced rapid testing and LeBron magically got skinny and played like ass for a season in Cleveland?

no surprise here.

You mean the season where he came into training camp as skinny as he was the previous year?

Nope. He lost 30-40 pounds
Stop denying reality. Here's your proof.

PHOTO here to refresh your memory - https://images.app.goo.gl/FYNAdAQS7zFbjwSeA

There was plenty of hoopla on forums at the time.
https://forum.cyclingnews.com/threads/nba-implements-hgh-test-for-14-15-lebron-and-melo-lose-around-30lbs-immediately.22812/


His PER went from 29.3 to 25.9 and that's including the midseason trip to Miami.

No coincidence there.

I really, really don't know why I bother with you.

LeBron left Miami weighing around 260.

By 2015 he was at 240.

Where the hell are you getting 30-40 pounds from? That source you gave me didn't provide a single shred of evidence either to the contrary.

Also, have you EVER seen someone with weight loss? That photo comparison you just showed me is not someone who has lost 30-40 pounds. It would be a lot more drastic than that.

Do us all a favor and stick to the GOAT thread. It's a joke thread where people make silly posts all the time, so it's perfect for you.

[Iwasawitness]

So LeBron is a 6-8 260 pound tank that also runs like a guard and jumps out the gym, never gets tired, never gets injured, and has played 20 years at a superstar level all of which is a combination we’ve never seen anything remotely close to before or since and yet, according to the LeBron fans it’s absolutely outrageous to even have a speculatory discussion?

Again, stuff like this is why I have a hard time taking you seriously.

Never gets tired? He hasn't consistently played defense for ten plus years now because he had issues with getting tired. Never gets injured? He's had multiple injuries during his tenure with the Lakers. Hell, that two week stint in Miami was FOR AN INJURY.

You're arguments rely on a fabricated reality that doesn't exist. You sit here and wonder why we get so "defensive". We're not. We're calling you out for lying, and you do it all the time.

[LakerLegend]

So LeBron is a 6-8 260 pound tank that also runs like a guard and jumps out the gym, never gets tired, never gets injured, and has played 20 years at a superstar level all of which is a combination we’ve never seen anything remotely close to before or since and yet, according to the LeBron fans it’s absolutely outrageous to even have a speculatory discussion?

Again, stuff like this is why I have a hard time taking you seriously.

Never gets tired? He hasn't consistently played defense for ten plus years now because he had issues with getting tired. Never gets injured? He's had multiple injuries during his tenure with the Lakers. Hell, that two week stint in Miami was FOR AN INJURY.

You're arguments rely on a fabricated reality that doesn't exist. You sit here and wonder why we get so "defensive". We're not. We're calling you out for lying, and you do it all the time.

Regarding fatigue and injuries, you either don’t understand the difference between speaking literally and figuratively or you do but are grasping at straws to boost your “argument”.

[Profound23]

I would not be shocked by any athlete using PEDs at some point in their career.

However, Teague has been making up **** for years on his podcast and whenever he is called on it his story is called a "joke."

[BodieB]

It's interesting because if Teague is lying, it would be a pretty easy libel/slander lawsuit I'd have to think.

Ah yes, the classic "no response is an admission of guilt" logic.

[Iwasawitness]

So LeBron is a 6-8 260 pound tank that also runs like a guard and jumps out the gym, never gets tired, never gets injured, and has played 20 years at a superstar level all of which is a combination we’ve never seen anything remotely close to before or since and yet, according to the LeBron fans it’s absolutely outrageous to even have a speculatory discussion?

Again, stuff like this is why I have a hard time taking you seriously.

Never gets tired? He hasn't consistently played defense for ten plus years now because he had issues with getting tired. Never gets injured? He's had multiple injuries during his tenure with the Lakers. Hell, that two week stint in Miami was FOR AN INJURY.

You're arguments rely on a fabricated reality that doesn't exist. You sit here and wonder why we get so "defensive". We're not. We're calling you out for lying, and you do it all the time.

Regarding fatigue and injuries, you either don’t understand the difference between speaking literally and figuratively or you do but are grasping at straws to boost your “argument”.

So now you're claiming you're speaking figuratively?

Next time, just take the L. Don't try to do an obvious cop out. No one's buying it.

[LakerLegend]

Again, stuff like this is why I have a hard time taking you seriously.

Never gets tired? He hasn't consistently played defense for ten plus years now because he had issues with getting tired. Never gets injured? He's had multiple injuries during his tenure with the Lakers. Hell, that two week stint in Miami was FOR AN INJURY.

You're arguments rely on a fabricated reality that doesn't exist. You sit here and wonder why we get so "defensive". We're not. We're calling you out for lying, and you do it all the time.

Regarding fatigue and injuries, you either don’t understand the difference between speaking literally and figuratively or you do but are grasping at straws to boost your “argument”.

So now you're claiming you're speaking figuratively?

Next time, just take the L. Don't try to do an obvious cop out. No one's buying it.

Lol, judging by the responses in this thread a lot more people are agreeing with me than you.

[ball_takes23]

It's interesting because if Teague is lying, it would be a pretty easy libel/slander lawsuit I'd have to think.

Lebron and his teams goal is to bury stories like these as quickly as possible. A lawsuit would accomplish the exact opposite.

[LakersLegacy]

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Ball|co steroids the Florida steroid co went to both MLB and NBA
MLB wanted to expose the cheaters
NBA buried it
ESPN.com had published a Florida NBA team was involved, then it was buried