Jeff Teague says LeBron was on roids in Miami

[Iwasawitness]

Regarding fatigue and injuries, you either don’t understand the difference between speaking literally and figuratively or you do but are grasping at straws to boost your “argument”.

So now you're claiming you're speaking figuratively?

Next time, just take the L. Don't try to do an obvious cop out. No one's buying it.

Lol, judging by the responses in this thread a lot more people are agreeing with me than you.

The and1s say otherwise. Plus bledredwine agreeing with you isn't the flex you think it is.

[donato]

LeBron is the Mark McGuire of the NBA.

[Cavsfansince84]

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Ball|co steroids the Florida steroid co went to both MLB and NBA
MLB wanted to expose the cheaters
NBA buried it
ESPN.com had published a Florida NBA team was involved, then it was buried

The balco scandal broke before LeBron was even in the nba. I mean its fine if you want to make another vague reference that has to do with peds and somehow make it about LeBron but at some point maybe even his haters will acknowledge the very real possibility that nba players were using as far back as the 90's if not earlier. Not just steroids but other things which boost performance and endurance.

[CobraCommander]

ill speak for me...I don't mind that LBJ does gear. it gave me more years to watch LBJ perform at a high level which is a win for me. I wish MJ did gear if it could have him still playing like 86 MJ today...and I wish Luka would get on gear so he could reach is peak potential.

I don't mean to single you out but I don't get the general assumption that 90's guys couldn't have been taking stuff. I think chances are that Karl was on something. As you and others have mentioned, by the 90's entire sports were swamped with ped use/scanadals(some going back to the 70's). I don't understand why bb fans today will single out LeBron and Wade yet think that MJ, Malone, Shaq, Kobe and others couldn't have been on stuff as well which includes epo.

I’m not saying the guys in the 90s didn’t do stuff.

I think people take performance enchantments every day… Adderalllll for LSAT SAT MCAT GMAT … (will neither confirm nor deny)

Test and others to get your squat up - (will neither confirm or deny)

Those girls MAry Jane and Molly always seem to be enchanting raves… or so I hear ?

And people can’t do their first meeting because they fiends for caffeine !

Natives chewing some things to make them see the ancestors-

Etc etc..

. I’m like 100% aware that every segment of society is on PEDs… and at all times

I’m not mad at LeBron-

I’m just tired of the hypocrisy from people on PEDs about other people on PEDs….

I’m talking about yall GLP1 heads too

[CobraCommander]

but its 24-48 hours to be undetectable,IGF‑1 elevation for up to 3 weeks..but can clear in 1! and I agree...lebron wouldn't see a reduction in performance or shrinkage in 11 days...it would be months...and once he passed the test he could get back on....there is no way to catch LBJ if the league really doesn't want to catch LBJ....and trust me...the NBA does not want to catch LBJ

Ok, but why was he then gone for 11 days and didn´t just sit out 1 or 2 games?

Why don't we just ask this question for anyone who sits out for any period of time? Why didn't you just take one game off? Why did you take three?

Again, this is silly. We aren't putting any thought into these questions and it shows.

I’m just quoting verifiable facts of when HGH clears -

I don’t care if LBJ on HGH - but i do think he should make sure he doesn’t stack with stuff that hurts hair growth - cause he fighting too battles simultaneously and he gotta decide if he wants the fro with a tight hairline or more mass

[CobraCommander]

We all kinda agree with a made up timeline?

thats fair...
did you double check when the league began HGH testing in Miami,

Lebrons pre HGH testing weight,

the date lebrons missing 3 weeks for back issues

then lebrons weight when he returned

then further did you test lebrons pre and post HGH performance

ill speak for me...I don't mind that LBJ does gear. it gave me more years to watch LBJ perform at a high level which is a win for me. I wish MJ did gear if it could have him still playing like 86 MJ today...and I wish Luka would get on gear so he could reach is peak potential.

Yes, I did in fact check when they started HGH testing, and that was in the 2015-16 season. This trip to Miami was in the 2014-15 season.

And we really gotta stop with the weight nonsense. I don't know why people keep saying this, but LeBron was already skinnier before the season even began. It was well documented that he went on a diet before the season started and lost ten pounds. Now we got people here saying he somehow lost all his muscle mass in a two week time period.

LeBron had back issues going into the season. Hell they were from last year. It wasn't any secret. It was a well known fact up to that point. That was what the two weeks off were for.

You guys are trying to make something out of nothing here.

Good job so are you saying LeBron never did gear?

Cause I’m not saying either way… because I don’t have a problem with Gear at all… anything that’s being openly used in all walks of life with minor negative impacts should be available safely to all interested-

I assure l u some of the gear is safer than the wine lebron drinks when you factor in death rates of drinkers and everything from car accidents to liver issues

[316Hornets]

NBA Lebron narrative is so played out. Dude starts to get too much attention and people go pointing at his ballsack. I've never been close to playing in the NBA but there's only so many spots available. I imagine a lot of guys who have made it have looked into bending the rules. When you are as rich as some of these guys, keeping focus for 82 games a year is going to be tough. Like even if basketball is that important to them, you really expect me to believe they don’t think about relaxing every now and then. Point is, there's all types of performance improvements and it's impossible to catch all the rule breakers. Whatever Lebron did or didn't do, other guys had the same opportunity at some point or another. So let's call out the entire NBA on this instead of one guy.

[Rainwater]

For those who actually care Jeff Teague said he was joking but internet won’t care.

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[LakerLegend]

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Ball|co steroids the Florida steroid co went to both MLB and NBA
MLB wanted to expose the cheaters
NBA buried it
ESPN.com had published a Florida NBA team was involved, then it was buried

The balco scandal broke before LeBron was even in the nba. I mean its fine if you want to make another vague reference that has to do with peds and somehow make it about LeBron but at some point maybe even his haters will acknowledge the very real possibility that nba players were using as far back as the 90's if not earlier. Not just steroids but other things which boost performance and endurance.

Did someone say balco: https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/alternate/amp/2024-03-07-balco-founder-says-theres-reason-to-be-supiscious-on-lebron-using-peds/

[axeman23]

Remember when they announced rapid testing and LeBron magically got skinny and played like ass for a season in Cleveland?

no surprise here.

25/6/7 is "playing like ass" now?

[Iwasawitness]

thats fair...
did you double check when the league began HGH testing in Miami,

Lebrons pre HGH testing weight,

the date lebrons missing 3 weeks for back issues

then lebrons weight when he returned

then further did you test lebrons pre and post HGH performance

ill speak for me...I don't mind that LBJ does gear. it gave me more years to watch LBJ perform at a high level which is a win for me. I wish MJ did gear if it could have him still playing like 86 MJ today...and I wish Luka would get on gear so he could reach is peak potential.

Yes, I did in fact check when they started HGH testing, and that was in the 2015-16 season. This trip to Miami was in the 2014-15 season.

And we really gotta stop with the weight nonsense. I don't know why people keep saying this, but LeBron was already skinnier before the season even began. It was well documented that he went on a diet before the season started and lost ten pounds. Now we got people here saying he somehow lost all his muscle mass in a two week time period.

LeBron had back issues going into the season. Hell they were from last year. It wasn't any secret. It was a well known fact up to that point. That was what the two weeks off were for.

You guys are trying to make something out of nothing here.

Good job so are you saying LeBron never did gear?

Cause I’m not saying either way… because I don’t have a problem with Gear at all… anything that’s being openly used in all walks of life with minor negative impacts should be available safely to all interested-

I assure l u some of the gear is safer than the wine lebron drinks when you factor in death rates of drinkers and everything from car accidents to liver issues

What I'm saying is that if LeBron did in fact gear, give me something substantial so I have a reason to believe it. Everyone who says it, their argument is basically "it's obvious he does it, you'd have to be stupid to think otherwise, everyone does it". There is never any actual evidence to the contrary. It's baseless rambling, and we're supposed to just believe it or we're idiots.

[bledredwine]

Remember when they announced rapid testing and LeBron magically got skinny and played like ass for a season in Cleveland?

no surprise here.

25/6/7 is "playing like ass" now?

Compared to his norm back then? Yeah, of course.
I remember thinking he looked poor compared to his usual.

His numbers at 36 and beyond started to match that. There was a huge drop-off.

He almost definitely roided, which is the purpose of this thread.
That, or magically lost 40 pounds for no good reason with a huge drop off, coincidentally right after drug tests were announced
alongside Melo.

[Cavsfansince84]

Did someone say balco: https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/alternate/amp/2024-03-07-balco-founder-says-theres-reason-to-be-supiscious-on-lebron-using-peds/

There's definitely reason to think LeBron could have used things. I have been pretty openly saying that for a very long time just as I've also been saying that a good portion of nba players are on stuff. George Karl wrote in his book like 5 years ago that 60-70% of the league was on peds. It's just this silly idea which some of you have that it all started with LeBron that I find so naive and one sided.

[316Hornets]

Remember when they announced rapid testing and LeBron magically got skinny and played like ass for a season in Cleveland?

no surprise here.

25/6/7 is "playing like ass" now?

Compared to his norm back then? Yeah, of course.
I remember thinking he looked poor compared to his usual.

His numbers at 36 and beyond started to match that. There was a huge drop-off.

He almost definitely roided, which is the purpose of this thread.
That, or magically lost 40 pounds for no good reason with a huge drop off, coincidentally right after drug tests were announced
alongside Melo.

There was another change taking place at the same time that might point to a more reasonable conclusion. The 3 point attempt rate started to rise every season starting in 2012. Is it really so far fetched to believe someone like LeBron didn't get advanced knowledge on this and understand he didn't need to play bully ball to keep making an impact? Maybe his world class Doctors advised him to prolong his career, focus more on 3s instead of banging inside?

[bledredwine]

25/6/7 is "playing like ass" now?

Compared to his norm back then? Yeah, of course.
I remember thinking he looked poor compared to his usual.

His numbers at 36 and beyond started to match that. There was a huge drop-off.

He almost definitely roided, which is the purpose of this thread.
That, or magically lost 40 pounds for no good reason with a huge drop off, coincidentally right after drug tests were announced
alongside Melo.

There was another change taking place at the same time that might point to a more reasonable conclusion. The 3 point attempt rate started to rise every season starting in 2012. Is it really so far fetched to believe someone like LeBron didn't get advanced knowledge on this and understand he didn't need to play bully ball to keep making an impact? Maybe his world class Doctors advised him to prolong his career, focus more on 3s instead of banging inside?

It's possible but highly unlikely IMO Even in boxing, we lift for strength, despite weight classes.
Fast twitch muscle and strength only helps speed and endurance, assuming one is doing conditioning as they should.

[LakerLegend]

25/6/7 is "playing like ass" now?

Compared to his norm back then? Yeah, of course.
I remember thinking he looked poor compared to his usual.

His numbers at 36 and beyond started to match that. There was a huge drop-off.

He almost definitely roided, which is the purpose of this thread.
That, or magically lost 40 pounds for no good reason with a huge drop off, coincidentally right after drug tests were announced
alongside Melo.

There was another change taking place at the same time that might point to a more reasonable conclusion. The 3 point attempt rate started to rise every season starting in 2012. Is it really so far fetched to believe someone like LeBron didn't get advanced knowledge on this and understand he didn't need to play bully ball to keep making an impact? Maybe his world class Doctors advised him to prolong his career, focus more on 3s instead of banging inside?

Did he take a two week break to practice his 3s?

[LakerLegend]

There’s also the story of how haslem said LeBron visited Miami right before the 2018 finals. Why would he go from Cleveland to Miami when the finals are in golden state? The he miraculously had that 50 point game 1.

[Cavsfansince84]

For one, how tf would Jeff Teague of all people know this? And for two, does anyone actually care if a player is using gear? I sure don't. This isn't baseball where juicing gives you a massive edge at bat. I would be surprised if most players weren't on some form of steroids

You don’t think steroids would give a player an advantage in basketball?

It's definitely not quite the same as in baseball where guys were going from career highs of 20 to 50 hrs on steroids. It was helping hitters way more than pitchers and in basketball you gotta play offense and defense against the same guys who are on peds.

[JKiddy]

Some people are mad at Lebron because two pieces of his dirty laundry came out this week:

ROIDS + CHEATING ON SAVANNAH

Everyone already knew about both of these. But, now they are making this a public display to make sure everyone know thinks about it. Something is off here. Something either happened behind the scenes horribly or he pissed off some people beyond repair.

[Iwasawitness]

Remember when they announced rapid testing and LeBron magically got skinny and played like ass for a season in Cleveland?

no surprise here.

25/6/7 is "playing like ass" now?

Compared to his norm back then? Yeah, of course.
I remember thinking he looked poor compared to his usual.

His numbers at 36 and beyond started to match that. There was a huge drop-off.

He almost definitely roided, which is the purpose of this thread.
That, or magically lost 40 pounds for no good reason with a huge drop off, coincidentally right after drug tests were announced
alongside Melo.

He didn't lose 40 pounds. I would suggest learning basic math before you start making math related statements.