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arkuo wrote:It has to be a consolidation trade. Hardy + Omax or someone. To clear 1 roster spot. It has to be a 2 for 1.
Darren wrote:Chat sports mentions Hardy & a 2nd for Dean Wade. I think it's not a right move. You spend an asset to unload Hardy getting back a rental who won't return next offseason. And you don't have the minute for the frontcourt. Unless a PJ trade for a starting level guard 1/2, this trade doesn't make too much sense. I read it as Klay is getting the starting role in favor of PJ. And the Mavs doesn't want to lose PJ for nothing . Something may have went wrong with PJ's extension. Or something like PJ for Monk, Coby White or Cam Thomas or similar player finally getting done. With Schroeder, the King are loaded in backcourt. Chicago is waiting on something before Giddey's extension. Cam Thomas is remain restricted. Anything could happen. Do you believe PJ is on the move? In case it is, which trade scenario will you take?
kanofwindHK wrote:Teffer10 wrote:Mr B wrote:Miles Kelly (6’6” 3-D Wing) played well in the Summer League and is also on a 2-way contract. They have 1 more 2-way contract available.
As strange as this may sound, I hope they sign a big to fill that last spot.
I still like the potential of Sharp and would like to see the Mavs move on from Powell his summer.
I like the Wade idea as well.
Kyrie/DLo/BWill
Klay/Christie/Exum
Flagg/Naji/Martin
AD/PJ/Wade
Lively/Gaff
Nembar/Kelly/Sharp (2-Way)
That is an extremely deep team IF healthy.
I really do not know why people are high on Sharp,
from the summer league games, it is clear that sharp is only tall.....but skill not belong to NBA level basketball
Mavrelous wrote:What does the board think about this?
Naji/Hardy/OMax/2 2nds for Grayson Allen
Create space to sign Exum and adds a reliable shooter and secondary ball handler.
Mavs lose Naji playmaking but if he's running the point, things are probably bad either way.
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daoneandonly wrote:3 team trade
Dallas Gets Devin Vassel, Dequan Jeffries
Cha Gets: Klay Thompson
SA Gets: Tidjane Salaun, Caleb Martin, Jaden Hardy
Dallas turns three mistakes into one, essentially. I'm not a Vassel believer, but he likely wouldn't have a place in SA with their influx of guards, and he fits a need here as a starting caliber guard who would be closer to Flagg's timeline. This also opens up the roster spot for Exum. This injects some more youth into a team lacking it. Cha gets the ultimate Kneuppel mentor. Kon has mentioned that Klay is the guy he models his game after and even called him after the SL win. SA has roster spots to fill and this accomplishes that. Victor and Salaun are friends, and perhaps that connection can boost Tidjane's confidence to carve a role, and he fits a need for SA. Caleb and Hardy can be bench guys for them that they currently lack.
This is assuming Devin's value isnt high at that contract which i dont believe it is, but curious for everyone's thoughts? Hopefully Dallas can do somethign else to open up a spot for Nembhard to have a real contract, maybe release Omax, Powell, or WIlliams
Lively/Gaff
AD/PJ
Flagg/Naji/Jeffries
Vassel/Christie/Exum
Kyrie/D-Lo/Nembhard
daoneandonly wrote:3 team trade
Dallas Gets Devin Vassel, Dequan Jeffries
Cha Gets: Klay Thompson
SA Gets: Tidjane Salaun, Caleb Martin, Jaden Hardy
Dallas turns three mistakes into one, essentially. I'm not a Vassel believer, but he likely wouldn't have a place in SA with their influx of guards, and he fits a need here as a starting caliber guard who would be closer to Flagg's timeline. This also opens up the roster spot for Exum. This injects some more youth into a team lacking it. Cha gets the ultimate Kneuppel mentor. Kon has mentioned that Klay is the guy he models his game after and even called him after the SL win. SA has roster spots to fill and this accomplishes that. Victor and Salaun are friends, and perhaps that connection can boost Tidjane's confidence to carve a role, and he fits a need for SA. Caleb and Hardy can be bench guys for them that they currently lack.
This is assuming Devin's value isnt high at that contract which i dont believe it is, but curious for everyone's thoughts? Hopefully Dallas can do somethign else to open up a spot for Nembhard to have a real contract, maybe release Omax, Powell, or WIlliams
Lively/Gaff
AD/PJ
Flagg/Naji/Jeffries
Vassel/Christie/Exum
Kyrie/D-Lo/Nembhard
Heezzi wrote:daoneandonly wrote:3 team trade
Dallas Gets Devin Vassel, Dequan Jeffries
Cha Gets: Klay Thompson
SA Gets: Tidjane Salaun, Caleb Martin, Jaden Hardy
Dallas turns three mistakes into one, essentially. I'm not a Vassel believer, but he likely wouldn't have a place in SA with their influx of guards, and he fits a need here as a starting caliber guard who would be closer to Flagg's timeline. This also opens up the roster spot for Exum. This injects some more youth into a team lacking it. Cha gets the ultimate Kneuppel mentor. Kon has mentioned that Klay is the guy he models his game after and even called him after the SL win. SA has roster spots to fill and this accomplishes that. Victor and Salaun are friends, and perhaps that connection can boost Tidjane's confidence to carve a role, and he fits a need for SA. Caleb and Hardy can be bench guys for them that they currently lack.
This is assuming Devin's value isnt high at that contract which i dont believe it is, but curious for everyone's thoughts? Hopefully Dallas can do somethign else to open up a spot for Nembhard to have a real contract, maybe release Omax, Powell, or WIlliams
Lively/Gaff
AD/PJ
Flagg/Naji/Jeffries
Vassel/Christie/Exum
Kyrie/D-Lo/Nembhard
Terrible
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Maverick41 wrote:daoneandonly wrote:3 team trade
Dallas Gets Devin Vassel, Dequan Jeffries
Cha Gets: Klay Thompson
SA Gets: Tidjane Salaun, Caleb Martin, Jaden Hardy
Dallas turns three mistakes into one, essentially. I'm not a Vassel believer, but he likely wouldn't have a place in SA with their influx of guards, and he fits a need here as a starting caliber guard who would be closer to Flagg's timeline. This also opens up the roster spot for Exum. This injects some more youth into a team lacking it. Cha gets the ultimate Kneuppel mentor. Kon has mentioned that Klay is the guy he models his game after and even called him after the SL win. SA has roster spots to fill and this accomplishes that. Victor and Salaun are friends, and perhaps that connection can boost Tidjane's confidence to carve a role, and he fits a need for SA. Caleb and Hardy can be bench guys for them that they currently lack.
This is assuming Devin's value isnt high at that contract which i dont believe it is, but curious for everyone's thoughts? Hopefully Dallas can do somethign else to open up a spot for Nembhard to have a real contract, maybe release Omax, Powell, or WIlliams
Lively/Gaff
AD/PJ
Flagg/Naji/Jeffries
Vassel/Christie/Exum
Kyrie/D-Lo/Nembhard
Imo, all 3 teams say no but it's interesting and different.
For DAL, I like Vassell but he's overpaid and I'm not confident in him producing enough in this team to justify his contract and not put in peril other players extensions like PJ.
For CHA, I don't see them giving up on Salaun after 1 season. I know he looked terrible but the GM would look like a fool to immediately flip him for a very old Klay.
For SA, Vassell's shooting is badly needed and would be missed. Hardy is useless in SA with their amount of guards, Salaun would basically never see the floor behind Barnes, Sochan and K. Johnson. Martin probably plays but also would be fighting for minutes with the same guys.
Also I'm surprised you would consider releasing B-Will. He finished the year really strong averaging 13/4/2 on 52/41/84 shooting splits in his last 10 games. I'm hopeful he can continue his momentum. He seems to be really well-liked in the organization and by his teammates.
Deuteronomy 30:19 wrote:I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live
daoneandonly wrote:Maverick41 wrote:daoneandonly wrote:3 team trade
Dallas Gets Devin Vassel, Dequan Jeffries
Cha Gets: Klay Thompson
SA Gets: Tidjane Salaun, Caleb Martin, Jaden Hardy
Dallas turns three mistakes into one, essentially. I'm not a Vassel believer, but he likely wouldn't have a place in SA with their influx of guards, and he fits a need here as a starting caliber guard who would be closer to Flagg's timeline. This also opens up the roster spot for Exum. This injects some more youth into a team lacking it. Cha gets the ultimate Kneuppel mentor. Kon has mentioned that Klay is the guy he models his game after and even called him after the SL win. SA has roster spots to fill and this accomplishes that. Victor and Salaun are friends, and perhaps that connection can boost Tidjane's confidence to carve a role, and he fits a need for SA. Caleb and Hardy can be bench guys for them that they currently lack.
This is assuming Devin's value isnt high at that contract which i dont believe it is, but curious for everyone's thoughts? Hopefully Dallas can do somethign else to open up a spot for Nembhard to have a real contract, maybe release Omax, Powell, or WIlliams
Lively/Gaff
AD/PJ
Flagg/Naji/Jeffries
Vassel/Christie/Exum
Kyrie/D-Lo/Nembhard
Imo, all 3 teams say no but it's interesting and different.
For DAL, I like Vassell but he's overpaid and I'm not confident in him producing enough in this team to justify his contract and not put in peril other players extensions like PJ.
For CHA, I don't see them giving up on Salaun after 1 season. I know he looked terrible but the GM would look like a fool to immediately flip him for a very old Klay.
For SA, Vassell's shooting is badly needed and would be missed. Hardy is useless in SA with their amount of guards, Salaun would basically never see the floor behind Barnes, Sochan and K. Johnson. Martin probably plays but also would be fighting for minutes with the same guys.
Also I'm surprised you would consider releasing B-Will. He finished the year really strong averaging 13/4/2 on 52/41/84 shooting splits in his last 10 games. I'm hopeful he can continue his momentum. He seems to be really well-liked in the organization and by his teammates.
Yea I hear you and Im hesitant to take DV on, but if there's a list of guys I want gone, it would be in this order
AD
Klay
Caleb
Hardy
These guys do more harm than help IMO, their presence alone proves Nico needs to go.
Honestly on B-WIll, I stopped watching basketball after the AD trade for Anthony Day to Day and only came back after LAL got eliminated, so wasnt aware how he did. But did he contribute to winning basketball or more did what he could?
Mr B wrote:daoneandonly wrote:Maverick41 wrote:Imo, all 3 teams say no but it's interesting and different.
For DAL, I like Vassell but he's overpaid and I'm not confident in him producing enough in this team to justify his contract and not put in peril other players extensions like PJ.
For CHA, I don't see them giving up on Salaun after 1 season. I know he looked terrible but the GM would look like a fool to immediately flip him for a very old Klay.
For SA, Vassell's shooting is badly needed and would be missed. Hardy is useless in SA with their amount of guards, Salaun would basically never see the floor behind Barnes, Sochan and K. Johnson. Martin probably plays but also would be fighting for minutes with the same guys.
Also I'm surprised you would consider releasing B-Will. He finished the year really strong averaging 13/4/2 on 52/41/84 shooting splits in his last 10 games. I'm hopeful he can continue his momentum. He seems to be really well-liked in the organization and by his teammates.
Yea I hear you and Im hesitant to take DV on, but if there's a list of guys I want gone, it would be in this order
AD
Klay
Caleb
Hardy
These guys do more harm than help IMO, their presence alone proves Nico needs to go.
Honestly on B-WIll, I stopped watching basketball after the AD trade for Anthony Day to Day and only came back after LAL got eliminated, so wasnt aware how he did. But did he contribute to winning basketball or more did what he could?
B-Will reminds me a lot of JJ Barea. He does contribute to winning when he’s on the floor. He’s not a starting quality PG though. When he’s on the floor he’s constantly getting downhill and attacking the paint. If he can get more proficient at passing out once he gets deep in the paint his game will be very similar to JJ Barea’s.
Edit: I would also like to see him get more proficient at the lob pass.
Teffer10 wrote:I honestly think the Lakers will be a very tough team next season. They addressed their greatest needs and Luka will make Ayton look like a star.
I always thought Ayton needed a guy like Luka and Luka needed a guy like Smart.
The west will be ridiculous this year.
OKC, Houston, Denver, Minnesota, Clippers, Dallas and Lakers are loaded. SAS and GSW could be there as well.
Teffer10 wrote:I honestly think the Lakers will be a very tough team next season. They addressed their greatest needs and Luka will make Ayton look like a star.
I always thought Ayton needed a guy like Luka and Luka needed a guy like Smart.
The west will be ridiculous this year.
OKC, Houston, Denver, Minnesota, Clippers, Dallas and Lakers are loaded. SAS and GSW could be there as well.
Darren wrote:Teffer10 wrote:I honestly think the Lakers will be a very tough team next season. They addressed their greatest needs and Luka will make Ayton look like a star.
I always thought Ayton needed a guy like Luka and Luka needed a guy like Smart.
The west will be ridiculous this year.
OKC, Houston, Denver, Minnesota, Clippers, Dallas and Lakers are loaded. SAS and GSW could be there as well.
LAL cannot match up with OKC but has improved streadily against random Western team.