Welcome to Boston, Josh Minott!

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In Boston, he was pretty much only at the 4..

Even played the 5 a bit, in the Pacers series..

He was sometimes used as a 3 in Indy, but that was when he was a better shooter. The lack of shooting in Boston (paired with the strong rebounding) made him more of a 4 here..

A role Walsh and Minott could possibly play for us..

1. Walsh is NOT a 4. I know the Cs will need to claim to have 'bigs' this season but no way he's one of them

2. Re: Oshae, BBallRef says the regular season he played in Boston he spent 56% of his time at SF, 29% at PF, 15% at SG, and 1% at C. In his 55 playoff minutes, he did shift up a bit to 50% PF, 43% SF, 5% SG, and 2% center. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brissos01.html
Contrary to Hal's claim, he played more at PF in Indy than he did in Boston -- really liked Oshae; wish he'd found a position and a team in the NBA (still could, no doubt).

Bref only uses height to classify players. Tatum is taller than Brissett so in their time together they’d call Tatum the PF and Brissett the SF, but in reality watching the games they gave Brissett PF role and Tatum was the SF. Same with if he was on the floor with Hauser. That stuff skews the numbers. Brissett is the PF over those guys but Bref will say he’s SF. He plays like a PF.

Agreed that Walsh is not a 4. He just doesn’t play that way. He’s a 3. It’s not all about just size and wingspan. Play style matters.

This is news to me about BBallref’s categorizing of positions. Darn! What happens if two players tie in height? and more substantively is there anywhere else that does a better job of tracking this? (unlikely for free, I realize)

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1. Walsh is NOT a 4. I know the Cs will need to claim to have 'bigs' this season but no way he's one of them

2. Re: Oshae, BBallRef says the regular season he played in Boston he spent 56% of his time at SF, 29% at PF, 15% at SG, and 1% at C. In his 55 playoff minutes, he did shift up a bit to 50% PF, 43% SF, 5% SG, and 2% center. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brissos01.html
Contrary to Hal's claim, he played more at PF in Indy than he did in Boston -- really liked Oshae; wish he'd found a position and a team in the NBA (still could, no doubt).

Bref only uses height to classify players. Tatum is taller than Brissett so in their time together they’d call Tatum the PF and Brissett the SF, but in reality watching the games they gave Brissett PF role and Tatum was the SF. Same with if he was on the floor with Hauser. That stuff skews the numbers. Brissett is the PF over those guys but Bref will say he’s SF. He plays like a PF.

Agreed that Walsh is not a 4. He just doesn’t play that way. He’s a 3. It’s not all about just size and wingspan. Play style matters.

This is news to me about BBallref’s categorizing of positions. Darn! What happens if two players tie in height? and more substantively is there anywhere else that does a better job of tracking this? (unlikely for free, I realize)

Not that I know of. Whether a guy is a PG or SG, whether he played 500 mins at SF or 450 mins at SF..these are subjective things. Any site you look at, it's simply someone's opinion.

Best method imo is to watch them play and decide yourself what position(s) you think they are the best fit to play.

But since it's a matter of opinion, it's not something that anyone can be right or wrong about. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[phincsfan]

He was listed as a G in college.

Duren was the big for that Memphis team.

[brackdan70]

Ball handler, wing, swing or big.
Also I am pretty sure that BBref does not use height to categorize players o to positions.
NBA is pretty positionless these days.

[Hal14]

He was listed as a G in college.

Duren was the big for that Memphis team.

He definitely was not a G in college. Duren played C and Minott played PF. Minott may have played some SF (because Memphis was a big team so if they played double bigs then Minott could slide to the 3) but from the film I watched back then, he was mostly a 4.

And Minott has bulked up a bit since college, so he's even more of a 4 now..

He's listed as a F here:
https://gotigersgo.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/2021-22

[darrendaye]

He was listed as a G in college.

Duren was the big for that Memphis team.

He definitely was not a G in college. Duren played C and Minott played PF. Minott may have played some SF (because Memphis was a big team so if they played double bigs then Minott could slide to the 3) but from the film I watched back then, he was mostly a 4.

And Minott has bulked up a bit since college, so he's even more of a 4 now..

He's listed as a F here:
https://gotigersgo.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/2021-22

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2021-22   Memphis  AAC    FR   G 33  5 14.6 2.5 4.8 .522 0.1 0.4 .143 2.5 4.4 .559 .528 1.5 2.0 .754 1.6 2.2 3.8 0.9 0.8 0.7 0.9 1.8        6.6
Career                           33  5 14.6 2.5 4.8 .522 0.1 0.4 .143 2.5 4.4 .559 .528 1.5 2.0 .754 1.6 2.2 3.8 0.9 0.8 0.7 0.9 1.8        6.6


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Bref only uses height to classify players. Tatum is taller than Brissett so in their time together they’d call Tatum the PF and Brissett the SF, but in reality watching the games they gave Brissett PF role and Tatum was the SF. Same with if he was on the floor with Hauser. That stuff skews the numbers. Brissett is the PF over those guys but Bref will say he’s SF. He plays like a PF.

Agreed that Walsh is not a 4. He just doesn’t play that way. He’s a 3. It’s not all about just size and wingspan. Play style matters.

This is news to me about BBallref’s categorizing of positions. Darn! What happens if two players tie in height? and more substantively is there anywhere else that does a better job of tracking this? (unlikely for free, I realize)

Not that I know of. Whether a guy is a PG or SG, whether he played 500 mins at SF or 450 mins at SF..these are subjective things. Any site you look at, it's simply someone's opinion.

Best method imo is to watch them play and decide yourself what position(s) you think they are the best fit to play.

But since it's a matter of opinion, it's not something that anyone can be right or wrong about. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

such a thrilling intellectual premise

[bucknersrevenge]

Minott played most of his time at the 3 and only weighs 205 lbs same as Schierman. But Minott is only 22 and I think, still growing into his body. I'd like to see him ideally get up to 220 eventually. I know you don't just put on that kind of weight immediately but I think that would be his best playing weight as a swing forward guarding 2-4. He's got the length, size, and agility. Just needs to get stronger I think.

[Curmudgeon]

He talks a good game. I just hope he's as good as Delano Banton, who was a free agent last time I looked.

[cl2117]

He talks a good game. I just hope he's as good as Delano Banton, who was a free agent last time I looked.

I saw an article describe Delano Banton as a "Jack of No Trades" which I think is kind of where Minott risks ending up too.

With Minott shooting is a concern but he's great motor and athleticism, so if he can tick enough other boxes he could still be a productive player. But if he doesn't manage to be above average in a few other areas (switchable defense, rebounding, playmaking on-ball, getting to the line) he ends up another "Jack of no trades" master of none below replacement level wing.

I always get excited about these guys who can do a little bit of everything but then have to remind myself that if they fall short in any one of those areas they start to lose their overall value pretty quick if they're not elite at any one specifically.

[phincsfan]

I've done zero pre-draft research on Minott, but why in the world did he decide to leave college after 1 year? Duren I understand because he was a lottery lock.

I hope the NCAA figures out how to control the NIL because IMO, it's gonna be a huge development tool for kids like Minott, Walsh, Davison just a few names off the top of my head.

The transfer portal is something they have to figure out, because you eventually want some stability for these kids and not make it as simple as "college A now and then leave to college B because of more money". Just throwing spaghetti at the wall type thinking.

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He talks a good game. I just hope he's as good as Delano Banton, who was a free agent last time I looked.

I saw an article describe Delano Banton as a "Jack of No Trades" which I think is kind of where Minott risks ending up too.

With Minott shooting is a concern but he's great motor and athleticism, so if he can tick enough other boxes he could still be a productive player. But if he doesn't manage to be above average in a few other areas (switchable defense, rebounding, playmaking on-ball, getting to the line) he ends up another "Jack of no trades" master of none below replacement level wing.

I always get excited about these guys who can do a little bit of everything but then have to remind myself that if they fall short in any one of those areas they start to lose their overall value pretty quick if they're not elite at any one specifically.

It's a fair concern to have about a guy like Minott. This is his 4th season in the league and he's on a minimum contract. Pretty important year for him to prove he belongs in this league. And he should get a decent amount of playing time to prove himself and to develop more.

If he doesn't pan out though, it's no big deal. He's just a minimum contract signing, bench player during a bridge year for us. It's low risk, high reward.

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I've done zero pre-draft research on Minott, but why in the world did he decide to leave college after 1 year? Duren I understand because he was a lottery lock.

I hope the NCAA figures out how to control the NIL because IMO, it's gonna be a huge development tool for kids like Minott, Walsh, Davison just a few names off the top of my head.

The transfer portal is something they have to figure out, because you eventually want some stability for these kids and not make it as simple as "college A now and then leave to college B because of more money". Just throwing spaghetti at the wall type thinking.

Because he was a projected draft pick. He wanted to just hurry up, get out of college, get to the NBA so he can become a pro sooner.

He was drafted.

But was 45th pick..that was before these guys started getting paid crazy NIL $. Like this year's draft there was 0 freshman taken in the 2nd round. So it's different now. If Minott was in the 2025 draft and projected to go 45th, he would have likely stayed in school. Same thing for a lot of these other guys recently who were 2nd round picks as freshmen (JD, Walsh, Julian Phillips, GG Jackson, Trevor Keels, Kendall Brown, etc.)

Maybe he got some bad advice from someone who told him he'd go higher in the draft..maybe that same person gave bad advice to JD, Walsh, Kendall Brown, etc.

[cl2117]

He talks a good game. I just hope he's as good as Delano Banton, who was a free agent last time I looked.

I saw an article describe Delano Banton as a "Jack of No Trades" which I think is kind of where Minott risks ending up too.

With Minott shooting is a concern but he's great motor and athleticism, so if he can tick enough other boxes he could still be a productive player. But if he doesn't manage to be above average in a few other areas (switchable defense, rebounding, playmaking on-ball, getting to the line) he ends up another "Jack of no trades" master of none below replacement level wing.

I always get excited about these guys who can do a little bit of everything but then have to remind myself that if they fall short in any one of those areas they start to lose their overall value pretty quick if they're not elite at any one specifically.

It's a fair concern to have about a guy like Minott. This is his 4th season in the league and he's on a minimum contract. Pretty important year for him to prove he belongs in this league. And he should get a decent amount of playing time to prove himself and to develop more.

If he doesn't pan out though, it's no big deal. He's just a minimum contract signing, bench player during a bridge year for us. It's low risk, high reward.

Yeah I like the swing by Brad, but just cautious to get overly optimistic because it feels like multiple things need to break his way for Minott to break out.

Hitting on these 2nd draft kind of guys is going to be such a huge part of navigating the aprons going forward. Any of them that work out will provide such value on their contract that teams can afford to be top heavy. I feel like things are shifting towards teams building around a few max slots, mid level exceptions and then vet/mins rookies, nothing in between. There's gonna be some diamonds in the rough in terms of min level guys who have a lot of potential but aren't going to get teams willing to invest in them before they prove it out.

Minott being a guy who I think entered the NBA draft too early and then on top of that hasn't had enough developmental minutes on an overloaded contending roster is exactly the kind of guy who will break out.

Would like to see us identify 1-2 more guys like this and bring them into the fold over the course of the season if possible and hope that we can hit on at least 1, which would set us up perfectly for next season with a fully healthy Tatum in tow.

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[Gant]

Turns out Josh Minott is the nephew of the late reggae singer Sugar Minott.

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[165bows]

How many minutes at center does this kid get?

[darrendaye]

How many minutes at center does this kid get?

LOL, thankfully with Boucher here now, that's not happening.
But I say he will get his 12-16 playing PF.

[165bows]

How many minutes at center does this kid get?

LOL, thankfully with Boucher here now, that's not happening.
But I say he will get his 12-16 playing PF.

Take a close look at the minutes history of the guys playing the five (and for ***** and giggles throw in their foul rates) this team has and get back to me.

[Hal14]

How many minutes at center does this kid get?

Probably 0.

He's a PF/SF..I guess maybe he could play some small ball 5 but I don't see that happening much - if at all.