NBA GM’s Draft Performance (Masai receives an “A”)
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The same stale voices beating the same dead horse.
It will probably take another 3 years before some people around here begin to realise what we had. Masai was hit or miss on trades, and when he hit, oh boy, did he hit. He was an excellent drafter. He was a good people manager. He fell in love with his own guys. He tended to overpay. The benefits majorly outweighed the shortcomings Too many of you only showed up because of the product he put on the court and missed the dark days, and it shows.
I really hope we don't screw up this leadership search, otherwise some of you will finally be right about having weak and incapable leadership. Then you will really have something to complain about. Which, sadly, I think is going make a few of you happier.
It will probably take another 3 years before some people around here begin to realise what we had. Masai was hit or miss on trades, and when he hit, oh boy, did he hit. He was an excellent drafter. He was a good people manager. He fell in love with his own guys. He tended to overpay. The benefits majorly outweighed the shortcomings Too many of you only showed up because of the product he put on the court and missed the dark days, and it shows.
I really hope we don't screw up this leadership search, otherwise some of you will finally be right about having weak and incapable leadership. Then you will really have something to complain about. Which, sadly, I think is going make a few of you happier.
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ForeverTFC wrote:Tacoma wrote:And yet over the past 5 years, he's been trading away draft capital in futile attempts to try (and mostly fail) to make the playoffs.
Or maybe, the guy that has shown himself to have impeccable taste in prospects didn't like his options in those spots?
His impeccable taste selected DeAndre Daniels over Spencer Dinwidde, Jerami Grant and Nikola Jokic? Same goes for 'give him MOAR picks." Since Watson the team has been more efficient in its drafting. I agree with the posters who maintain that restricting the amount of prospects probably gives them a leg up in development.
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I'm not a huge fan of what the Nets are doing. They're bringing in all these rooks at the same time on top of all their other recent draft picks, these guys are going to get minutes they haven't earned or aren't ready for and they won't be surrounded by many established NBA players. I just don't see this as a great environment for developing that many young players. I like the coach there so maybe it all works out, but I think there will be plenty of guys who just get lost in the shuffle and become cheap re-draft candidates very soon.
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OakleyDokely wrote:I'm not a huge fan of what the Nets are doing. They're bringing in all these rooks at the same time on top of all their other recent draft picks, these guys are going to get minutes they haven't earned or aren't ready for and they won't be surrounded by many established NBA players. I just don't see this as a great environment for developing that many young players. I like the coach there so maybe it all works out, but I think there will be plenty of guys who just get lost in the shuffle and become cheap re-draft candidates very soon.
The broadcast's decision to cut to the Nets' war room celebrating after each pick like they just landed on Mars seems like it was set up with the intent to mock them later when most of these guys don't pan out.
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Young Moosehead wrote:The same stale voices beating the same dead horse.
It will probably take another 3 years before some people around here begin to realise what we had. Masai was hit or miss on trades, and when he hit, oh boy, did he hit. He was an excellent drafter. He was a good people manager. He fell in love with his own guys. He tended to overpay. The benefits majorly outweighed the shortcomings Too many of you only showed up because of the product he put on the court and missed the dark days, and it shows.
I really hope we don't screw up this leadership search, otherwise some of you will finally be right about having weak and incapable leadership. Then you will really have something to complain about. Which, sadly, I think is going make a few of you happier.
It's only a matter of time before the Masai haters disappear and act like they were never haters in the first place....then they will blame others for wanting him gone.
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I spent more time going through their work. So Kadeem Allen and Miye Oni are both considered elite picks in the top 60. Also Masai is credited for drafting Lucas Nogueira, when he traded for him.
The whole list just needs to be thrown in the trash. I still think Masai is one of if not the best drafting GMs of the last 15 years, but there has to be a metric tied to minutes played or awards won and not Surplus PM.
The whole list just needs to be thrown in the trash. I still think Masai is one of if not the best drafting GMs of the last 15 years, but there has to be a metric tied to minutes played or awards won and not Surplus PM.
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ATLTimekeeper wrote:ForeverTFC wrote:Tacoma wrote:And yet over the past 5 years, he's been trading away draft capital in futile attempts to try (and mostly fail) to make the playoffs.
Or maybe, the guy that has shown himself to have impeccable taste in prospects didn't like his options in those spots?
His impeccable taste selected DeAndre Daniels over Spencer Dinwidde, Jerami Grant and Nikola Jokic? Same goes for 'give him MOAR picks." Since Watson the team has been more efficient in its drafting. I agree with the posters who maintain that restricting the amount of prospects probably gives them a leg up in development.
What other players were drafted before Deandre Daniels that were busts? How many players drafted after Daniels were also busts? Heck, he was drafted 37th overall. The next draft was the Norm Powell draft so it evens out.
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Merit wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:ForeverTFC wrote:
Or maybe, the guy that has shown himself to have impeccable taste in prospects didn't like his options in those spots?
His impeccable taste selected DeAndre Daniels over Spencer Dinwidde, Jerami Grant and Nikola Jokic? Same goes for 'give him MOAR picks." Since Watson the team has been more efficient in its drafting. I agree with the posters who maintain that restricting the amount of prospects probably gives them a leg up in development.
What other players were drafted before Deandre Daniels that were busts? How many players drafted after Daniels were also busts? Heck, he was drafted 37th overall. The next draft was the Norm Powell draft so it evens out.
Always funny when anti-Masai drafting posts are made and they have to rely on complaining about 2nd rounders

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YogurtProducer wrote:Merit wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
His impeccable taste selected DeAndre Daniels over Spencer Dinwidde, Jerami Grant and Nikola Jokic? Same goes for 'give him MOAR picks." Since Watson the team has been more efficient in its drafting. I agree with the posters who maintain that restricting the amount of prospects probably gives them a leg up in development.
What other players were drafted before Deandre Daniels that were busts? How many players drafted after Daniels were also busts? Heck, he was drafted 37th overall. The next draft was the Norm Powell draft so it evens out.
Always funny when anti-Masai drafting posts are made and they have to rely on complaining about 2nd rounders
Hey that's not the point at all. See my other posts about Masai's success in the draft, it's obvious he's done something right. It was mocking the poster's notion that Masai can find prospects like he's picking wines. It's not an individual skill, but the yield of a collective workforce using a process that then is fostered with a development plan.
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ATLTimekeeper wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Merit wrote:
What other players were drafted before Deandre Daniels that were busts? How many players drafted after Daniels were also busts? Heck, he was drafted 37th overall. The next draft was the Norm Powell draft so it evens out.
Always funny when anti-Masai drafting posts are made and they have to rely on complaining about 2nd rounders
Hey that's not the point at all. See my other posts about Masai's success in the draft, it's obvious he's done something right. It was mocking the poster's notion that Masai can find prospects like he's picking wines. It's not an individual skill, but the yield of a collective workforce using a process that then is fostered with a development plan.
For sure. It’s a team effort and this is a balanced viewpoint imo. I do encourage the notion that if it’s a team effort then it’s also team blame. I also recognize that leadership determines direction, even if it’s a collective decision. Thanks for taking the time to clarify.
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ForeverTFC wrote:Los_29 wrote:Surprised at how low some other GMs are. Presti, Riley, and Myers are quite low on the list.
Masai had an incredible run. I like the last two drafts they had. I think they'll get a couple rotation players out of this group.
Presti is not an elite draft guy, he just gives himself a lot of shots on goal. Riley does well around the edges, but outside Bam, has he knocked it out of the park in the last 20 years? And Myers' owes much of his success to Jerry West - the true FO GOAT.
Riley has got to be the most overrated NBA executive in recent memory. Miami's mediocre, .500 or die treadmill is endless and just imagine if they didn't sign Jimmy who dragged them to the Finals.

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Morey got an A+? 
I can't even name a player he drafted.

I can't even name a player he drafted.