KCP back to LA

[Slava]

Maxi Kleber and Gabe Vincent are fair value for KCP, if the Grizzlies want to keep him at the 2 then Lakers shouldn't offer more.
He was just traded a month ago, and a lot of people considered part of the price was for taking on his deal, we shouldn't pretend like expiring for him is a laughable offer, yet here we are...
At the deadline, if Grizzlies aren't competetive and Lakers are, I think this is a very realistic deal (w/o the Jazz who aren't getting paid enough for taking on salary).

I see Memphis shopping around with the LA offer and willing to accept anything similar or even slightly worse just to screw the Lakers to return the favour for the DFS trade.I just don’t see any normal trade between these two franchises.

Come on man, you save some nice coin and afford to install a few windows in your practice facility.

[PistolPeteJR]

Maxi Kleber and Gabe Vincent are fair value for KCP, if the Grizzlies want to keep him at the 2 then Lakers shouldn't offer more.
He was just traded a month ago, and a lot of people considered part of the price was for taking on his deal, we shouldn't pretend like expiring for him is a laughable offer, yet here we are...
At the deadline, if Grizzlies aren't competetive and Lakers are, I think this is a very realistic deal (w/o the Jazz who aren't getting paid enough for taking on salary).

I see Memphis shopping around with the LA offer and willing to accept anything similar or even slightly worse just to screw the Lakers to return the favour for the DFS trade.I just don’t see any normal trade between these two franchises.

This isn't some high school fantasy league LOL. What is this? LAL topped the Grizz's offer to the Nets, plain and simple. Move on.

[gswhoops]

I'm confused. Aren't the Lakers the ones calling? The reporting is that they want KCP.

Yes at the right price. Making calls doesn't mean Pelinka will over pay.

GMs look at other team structures or hear things from agents/players that may insinuate that a team may trade a player. Hence, a call is initiated.

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I'm sure there are teams that call about a player and ask to be compensated for taking him, but I can't imagine those are long or productive conversations.

The Lakers need defensive help on the perimeter. This is likely LBJ's last season in L.A., perhaps Reaves as well, so I don't know that future cap space is as important as balancing the roster. I suspect they're offering expiring contracts of players who will barely be in the rotation.

"Hey Memphis, we're interested in KCP"

"Sure, what are you offering?"

"You're gonna pay us to take him"

*click*

[QMemphis]

Maxi Kleber and Gabe Vincent are fair value for KCP, if the Grizzlies want to keep him at the 2 then Lakers shouldn't offer more.
He was just traded a month ago, and a lot of people considered part of the price was for taking on his deal, we shouldn't pretend like expiring for him is a laughable offer, yet here we are...
At the deadline, if Grizzlies aren't competetive and Lakers are, I think this is a very realistic deal (w/o the Jazz who aren't getting paid enough for taking on salary).

I see Memphis shopping around with the LA offer and willing to accept anything similar or even slightly worse just to screw the Lakers to return the favour for the DFS trade.I just don’t see any normal trade between these two franchises.

This isn't some high school fantasy league LOL. What is this? LAL topped the Grizz's offer to the Nets, plain and simple. Move on.

Grizz offer was better we offered a 1st (18th) and Konchar longterm money 2/12. The Nets took on Terrance Mann 3/47 to get pick 22.

Highly unlikely we do a deal with Nets or Lakers in the future unless an overpay from them.

[nykballa2k4]

Vando + Knecht for KCP? Something around those parameters?

[nzahir]

Yes at the right price. Making calls doesn't mean Pelinka will over pay.

GMs look at other team structures or hear things from agents/players that may insinuate that a team may trade a player. Hence, a call is initiated.

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I'm sure there are teams that call about a player and ask to be compensated for taking him, but I can't imagine those are long or productive conversations.

The Lakers need defensive help on the perimeter. This is likely LBJ's last season in L.A., perhaps Reaves as well, so I don't know that future cap space is as important as balancing the roster. I suspect they're offering expiring contracts of players who will barely be in the rotation.

"Hey Memphis, we're interested in KCP"

"Sure, what are you offering?"

"You're gonna pay us to take him"

*click*

So I would throw Knecht in for KCP+our expirings if it meant we also got back a 2nd at least. That is already an overpay. KCP is a negative deal. 2 expirings are neutral. Knecht is a positive

Now we have 2 2nds and a 4m trade exception for a backup C like Reath (or can be a 3 teamer). Can also add in Hayes in a 3 teamer and get to 7.5m

If Knecht+2nd and our 2 expirings can turn into KCP and another backup C, we gotta do it if were a top 4 seed

If memphis doesnt care much for Knecht and or we dont want to move him for KCP, all we can offer is 2 expirings, 2nd, and 1-2 swaps (2028 and 2030?)

[PistolPeteJR]

I see Memphis shopping around with the LA offer and willing to accept anything similar or even slightly worse just to screw the Lakers to return the favour for the DFS trade.I just don’t see any normal trade between these two franchises.

This isn't some high school fantasy league LOL. What is this? LAL topped the Grizz's offer to the Nets, plain and simple. Move on.

Grizz offer was better we offered a 1st (18th) and Konchar longterm money 2/12. The Nets took on Terrance Mann 3/47 to get pick 22.

Highly unlikely we do a deal with Nets or Lakers in the future unless an overpay from them.

Context is key here. They traded for DFS in December. To speak about where the picks ended up when the trade happened 2 months into the start of the season isn't fair. As for Konchar vs Mann, the Nets probably liked the latter more. That doesn't make the Grizz's offer better.

[QMemphis]

This isn't some high school fantasy league LOL. What is this? LAL topped the Grizz's offer to the Nets, plain and simple. Move on.

Grizz offer was better we offered a 1st (18th) and Konchar longterm money 2/12. The Nets took on Terrance Mann 3/47 to get pick 22.

Highly unlikely we do a deal with Nets or Lakers in the future unless an overpay from them.

Context is key here. They traded for DFS in December. To speak about where the picks ended up when the trade happened 2 months into the start of the season isn't fair. As for Konchar vs Mann, the Nets probably liked the latter more. That doesn't make the Grizz's offer better.

The pick was projected 25 at the time I believe. Regardless of that the Grizz have a right to feel shafted as we were leveraged in a way that listed the players in the deal with no regard to our locker room. I doubt we work with either Lakers or Nets unless it’s a clear win.


Also side-note we don’t view KCP as a negative asset. So offers that value him as a bad contract we likely will have no interest in.

[PistolPeteJR]

Grizz offer was better we offered a 1st (18th) and Konchar longterm money 2/12. The Nets took on Terrance Mann 3/47 to get pick 22.

Highly unlikely we do a deal with Nets or Lakers in the future unless an overpay from them.

Context is key here. They traded for DFS in December. To speak about where the picks ended up when the trade happened 2 months into the start of the season isn't fair. As for Konchar vs Mann, the Nets probably liked the latter more. That doesn't make the Grizz's offer better.

The pick was projected 25 at the time I believe. Regardless of that the Grizz have a right to feel shafted as we were leveraged in a way that listed the players in the deal with no regard to our locker room. I doubt we work with either Lakers or Nets unless it’s a clear win.


Also side-note we don’t view KCP as a negative asset. So offers that value him as a bad contract we likely will have no interest in.

I mean if you feel Brooklyn simply used you, sure.
Not sure how LAL is in the wrong here though. They wanted a player, made an offer, and it was accepted. They didn’t take advantage of Memphis.

[QMemphis]

Context is key here. They traded for DFS in December. To speak about where the picks ended up when the trade happened 2 months into the start of the season isn't fair. As for Konchar vs Mann, the Nets probably liked the latter more. That doesn't make the Grizz's offer better.

The pick was projected 25 at the time I believe. Regardless of that the Grizz have a right to feel shafted as we were leveraged in a way that listed the players in the deal with no regard to our locker room. I doubt we work with either Lakers or Nets unless it’s a clear win.


Also side-note we don’t view KCP as a negative asset. So offers that value him as a bad contract we likely will have no interest in.

I mean if you feel Brooklyn simply used you, sure.
Not sure how LAL is in the wrong here though. They wanted a player, made an offer, and it was accepted. They didn’t take advantage of Memphis.

I don’t think we have interest in a deal with the Lakers unless they give what we believe to be fair value. Grizz view KCP as worth more than a few expiring.

We view him as a veteran starting wing with championship experience who can push our young guys.

[PistolPeteJR]

The pick was projected 25 at the time I believe. Regardless of that the Grizz have a right to feel shafted as we were leveraged in a way that listed the players in the deal with no regard to our locker room. I doubt we work with either Lakers or Nets unless it’s a clear win.


Also side-note we don’t view KCP as a negative asset. So offers that value him as a bad contract we likely will have no interest in.

I mean if you feel Brooklyn simply used you, sure.
Not sure how LAL is in the wrong here though. They wanted a player, made an offer, and it was accepted. They didn’t take advantage of Memphis.

I don’t think we have interest in a deal with the Lakers unless they give what we believe to be fair value. Grizz view KCP as worth more than a few expiring.

We view him as a veteran starting wing with championship experience who can push our young guys.

That's completely different than the spite-related reasoning that was initially provided.
If that's Memphis' valuation of KCP, sure thing. I don't think he's that anymore, personally, but I also don't see an immediate reason for Memphis to try and rush off of his contract, so what you're suggesting is fair.

[esvl]

I mean if you feel Brooklyn simply used you, sure.
Not sure how LAL is in the wrong here though. They wanted a player, made an offer, and it was accepted. They didn’t take advantage of Memphis.

I don’t think we have interest in a deal with the Lakers unless they give what we believe to be fair value. Grizz view KCP as worth more than a few expiring.

We view him as a veteran starting wing with championship experience who can push our young guys.

That's completely different than the spite-related reasoning that was initially provided.
If that's Memphis' valuation of KCP, sure thing. I don't think he's that anymore, personally, but I also don't see an immediate reason for Memphis to try and rush off of his contract, so what you're suggesting is fair.

If he is not any good, why he is wanted by LAL?

[PistolPeteJR]

I don’t think we have interest in a deal with the Lakers unless they give what we believe to be fair value. Grizz view KCP as worth more than a few expiring.

We view him as a veteran starting wing with championship experience who can push our young guys.

That's completely different than the spite-related reasoning that was initially provided.
If that's Memphis' valuation of KCP, sure thing. I don't think he's that anymore, personally, but I also don't see an immediate reason for Memphis to try and rush off of his contract, so what you're suggesting is fair.

If he is not any good, why he is wanted by LAL?

Can you please point to where I said he wasn't good?

QMemphis said, "we view him as a veteran starting wing". My response to that was, "I don't think he's that anymore".

Where did I say he wasn't good?

To answer your question directly, LAL is reportedly interested in him but the report never specified they want him to start, right? They need perimeter 3&D players around Luka, as we know. That doesn't automatically propel him to being their starter, however.