Where Jonathan Kuminga ends ?

[Chi town]

Why do I have a feeling an idiotic Cam Thomas - Jonathan Kuminga swap is incoming where everyone ultimately loses?

Exactly what I’m thinking.

[Chi town]

Warriors fans, is his game worth the contract he is trying to get?

That’s what I want to know as well. He turned down 5/150 in season.

[PlatinumState]

Warriors fans, is his game worth the contract he is trying to get?

That’s what I want to know as well. He turned down 5/150 in season.

That was fake news apparently that everyone just ran with

Read on Twitter

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[Chi town]

Warriors fans, is his game worth the contract he is trying to get?

That’s what I want to know as well. He turned down 5/150 in season.

That was fake news apparently that everyone just ran with

Read on Twitter

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Hmm. Didn’t know that. I was shocked when I heard MDJ would actually offer that.

[Chi town]

So does it seem 20M per on a short deal seems most likely?

[PlatinumState]

So does it seem 20M per on a short deal seems most likely?

I got a feeling he'll resign soon for 45/3

[Crazy-Canuck]

That’s what I want to know as well. He turned down 5/150 in season.

That was fake news apparently that everyone just ran with

Read on Twitter

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Hmm. Didn’t know that. I was shocked when I heard MDJ would actually offer that.

We don't know.

Slater was the one who initially reported that his agents turned down 5/150. Then it was slater again who corrected his reporting. He is now saying no "official offer" was given by the warriors. They talked numbers, but kuminga was using the Johnson extension as the baseline. Imo, at that point, there's no reason to even bother negotiating.

Both versions could very well be true. We don't know.

But it's safe to assume that kuminga and his camp had expections of 5/150 and still do.

[Saints14]

Man this RFA market is brutal and should scare the crap out of future extension-eligible players to just take a below max extension once it's on the table. It sucks that these guys are getting squeezed but I think a little more team leverage is a good thing when for so long they were just handing out max contracts to any young player that showed a pulse, which was clearly getting out of hand. There's nothing wrong with "only" getting something like 4/90M if you're a good but not great young player that hasn't proven the ability to impact winning at a high level

[Capn'O]

Warriors fans, is his game worth the contract he is trying to get?

He's a high risk, high reward type player. His biggest issue is he came into the league very raw in terms of understanding how to play a 5-man game. He's worked hard but the learning curve has been steep, especially on a team with aspirations of winning in the near term and that heavily prioritizes movement on both ends. In my view, he's not a bad gamble for a team that needs talent. I think the Ws have done a disservice to themselves by holding this long and the asset price I'm seeing right now... somebody should pounce and beat it just enough to get him. Nets, Wizards, Blazers, Bulls, Kings, Suns, Heat, Jazz... why not?

On a bad team, he should easily average 20+ with a few highlights on either end. That said, if he doesn't develop in terms of bbiq he could end up being a bad investment. Just one of those guys who puts up stats but doesn't impact winning.

[Chi town]

So does it seem 20M per on a short deal seems most likely?

I got a feeling he'll resign soon for 45/3

Don’t see him settling for less than 20M per and I don’t see Dubs going beyond 20. See Suns and Kings easily going to 25 at 3/75.

[xdrta+]

Warriors fans, is his game worth the contract he is trying to get?

That’s what I want to know as well. He turned down 5/150 in season.

That's been shown to be BS. The Warriors never put an offer on the table because they wanted the option to trade him, and an extension would have poison pilled it.

[MTJazzv3]

Please Ainge, do not buy high on Kuminga. Theoretically, the Jazz youngsters are going to be taught to play defense in the anticipation that maybe some time this decade the Jazz can become relevant again. Jazz got guys who can put it in the hoop already. Keep the powder dry for a defensive specialist or two!

[SkyBill40]

Kuminga needs to get a grip on just how strongly he believes himself to be as a primary option. Yeah, he had some nice games in the playoffs after Curry went down, but let's be realistic: Even if the Suns pulled a S/T and brought him here... he's going to be in the same boat he is now: Behind other players (Booker and Green specifically) and not seen as a primary option. And even though he dealt with that situation while in PHX, Deandre Ayton got tired of it and did just enough so as to see him get moved to POR. And while he became more involved on the Blazers, the same situation arose and he found himself on the outs. Now he's in LA and behind even more ball dominant guys.

Kuminga could be a nice, young, athletic fit for us; however, his attitude leaves much to be desired and we don't need a second go of Ayton's situation.

[Shock Defeat]

Kings really have nowhere to go but up so they should take a look at him. They have nothing to lose.

[EvanZ]

So does it seem 20M per on a short deal seems most likely?

I got a feeling he'll resign soon for 45/3

Don’t see him settling for less than 20M per and I don’t see Dubs going beyond 20. See Suns and Kings easily going to 25 at 3/75.

The Kings rumored "offer" is around $20M which is what the Warriors would give him. Keep in mind Neither the Suns nor Kings have cap space. They need to acquire him through S&T which means the Warriors simply don't have to agree to do it. Warriors have virtually all the leverage unless Kuminga decides to use the nuclear option which is unlikely imo.

[DusterBuster]

Kuminga is a mid-NBA player, I don't get why he has this much attention.

[Dan Z]

Man this RFA market is brutal and should scare the crap out of future extension-eligible players to just take a below max extension once it's on the table. It sucks that these guys are getting squeezed but I think a little more team leverage is a good thing when for so long they were just handing out max contracts to any young player that showed a pulse, which was clearly getting out of hand. There's nothing wrong with "only" getting something like 4/90M if you're a good but not great young player that hasn't proven the ability to impact winning at a high level

It's crazy that 90 million dollars isn't considered a great contract. That's generational wealth if he's smart with his money, but I get it...NBA contract in general have been crazy.

[magee]

Man this RFA market is brutal and should scare the crap out of future extension-eligible players to just take a below max extension once it's on the table. It sucks that these guys are getting squeezed but I think a little more team leverage is a good thing when for so long they were just handing out max contracts to any young player that showed a pulse, which was clearly getting out of hand. There's nothing wrong with "only" getting something like 4/90M if you're a good but not great young player that hasn't proven the ability to impact winning at a high level

It's crazy that 90 million dollars isn't considered a great contract. That's generational wealth if he's smart with his money, but I get it...NBA contract in general have been crazy.

He's getting taxed on $90, but he's still getting close to $35+ after the payouts to agents and whatever else he has.

[magee]

Kuminga is a mid-NBA player, I don't get why he has this much attention.

He's talented enough for people to feel that if he got in the right situation, he'd flourish.

[SkyBill40]

I got a feeling he'll resign soon for 45/3

Don’t see him settling for less than 20M per and I don’t see Dubs going beyond 20. See Suns and Kings easily going to 25 at 3/75.

The Kings rumored "offer" is around $20M which is what the Warriors would give him. Keep in mind Neither the Suns nor Kings have cap space. They need to acquire him through S&T which means the Warriors simply don't have to agree to do it. Warriors have virtually all the leverage unless Kuminga decides to use the nuclear option which is unlikely imo.

The Suns do have some, albeit very little, apron space before jumping back into the mess we just cleared ourselves from by moving Durant and Beal. We don't have any other option but to move one of Allen or O'Neale as doing so will keep the potential contract dollars a close match; however, GS seems steadfast on wanting youth and a first round pick and the Suns have no picks to trade or include outside of maybe a couple seconds. And while Kuminga might be nice for us, the cost to add him seems more prohibitive than it's worth.

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