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[Badgerlander]

Barrett is the same size as Trent, is that legit wing size or just slightly above average SG size?

[German Athens]

My favorite thing about Barrett is probably the pace he plays with in the pick n roll. He’s patient, kinda like Midds.

Midds’ success was predicated off his midrange jumper, though, and I think Barrett’s still got a lot of work to do there.

I’d rather find an awesome shooter as the 3, but if all we gave up for Barrett is Kuz, I’d be happy.

Plenty of dudes look really good alongside Giannis, and it’s not an impossibility Barrett would too. He would also probably carry more trade value if he broke out than Kuz would if he broke out, because he doesn’t have as many negative years on his record.

[mlloyd10]

He’s not even in the same planet as Hart and White defensively. MPJ sure but there’s a reason a contending team dumped him.

Was going purely off Hollinger NBA Player Statistics PER

PER doesn’t account for how much a subpar three point shooter kills spacing for GA. Post their shooting stats and let’s see how RJB stacks up against those three.

Are you saying that the only people that will work for this team around GA are shooters?

Just an FYI..In 23/24 and 24/25 Barrett was a 48%/35% and Middleton in 22/23 n 23/24 was 47%/35% ( took out injured last year )

[Ron Swanson]

Barrett is the same size as Trent, is that legit wing size or just slightly above average SG size?

Standing reach of 8'2 vs. 8'6 is the same size? Trent can obviously play SF even if he's more ideally suited at the 2, but Barrett played legit PF minutes last season (26% of his minutes going by BBall-Reference).

[mlloyd10]

Barrett is the same size as Trent, is that legit wing size or just slightly above average SG size?

RJ measured 6'7" (6'9" wingspan)
Trent Measured 6'5.75" (6'8.75" wingspan)

[Badgerlander]

Barrett is the same size as Trent, is that legit wing size or just slightly above average SG size?

Standing reach of 8'2 vs. 8'6 is the same size? Trent can obviously play SF even if he's more ideally suited at the 2, but Barrett played legit PF minutes last season (26% of his minutes going by BBall-Reference).

Guys short their standing reach all the time for better vertical.
Barrett 6’6.5” in shoes 6’9” wingspan 208lbs, but declined measurements or athletic testing at the combine
Trent 6’5.75” in shoes 6’8.75” wingspan 204lbs, He had a standing vertical leap of 33.5 inches (third-best at the combine) and a max vertical jump of 39.5 inches. He also recorded a 3.08-second shuttle run.

Pretty much the same size in my book

[Ron Swanson]

Was going purely off Hollinger NBA Player Statistics PER

PER doesn’t account for how much a subpar three point shooter kills spacing for GA. Post their shooting stats and let’s see how RJB stacks up against those three.

Are you saying that the only people that will work for this team around GA are shooters?

Just an FYI..In 23/24 and 24/25 Barrett was a 48%/35% and Middleton in 22/23 n 23/24 was 47%/35% ( took out injured last year )

Feels like we're really back on the mindset of "just throw 4 shooters (doesn't matter if they can't create) around Giannis and everything will be fine" and it's an overly simplified philosophy I've never agreed with. Having multiple ball-handlers/shot-creators is pretty much the one constant variable to any elite offense these days, and without a coach who runs a heavy pick and roll or motion offense, I'd argue it's even more important for us to find these kinds of guys wherever you can. You obviously wanna avoid the non-spacers and straight up liability guys, but a dude who shoots 35% overall on high volume isn't gonna muck up your spacing to any notable degree.

[yb90]

Barrett is the same size as Trent, is that legit wing size or just slightly above average SG size?

Standing reach of 8'2 vs. 8'6 is the same size? Trent can obviously play SF even if he's more ideally suited at the 2, but Barrett played legit PF minutes last season (26% of his minutes going by BBall-Reference).

Guys short their standing reach all the time for better vertical.
Barrett 6’6.5” in shoes 6’9” wingspan 208lbs, but declined measurements or athletic testing at the combine
Trent 6’5.75” in shoes 6’8.75” wingspan 204lbs, He had a standing vertical leap of 33.5 inches (third-best at the combine) and a max vertical jump of 39.5 inches. He also recorded a 3.08-second shuttle run.

Pretty much the same size in my book

I think so too. I guess the only real difference is Trent Jr was a year older when he entered the league and we do not know if either grew more and how much weight either one added over the years.

[emunney]

Standing reach of 8'2 vs. 8'6 is the same size? Trent can obviously play SF even if he's more ideally suited at the 2, but Barrett played legit PF minutes last season (26% of his minutes going by BBall-Reference).

Guys short their standing reach all the time for better vertical.
Barrett 6’6.5” in shoes 6’9” wingspan 208lbs, but declined measurements or athletic testing at the combine
Trent 6’5.75” in shoes 6’8.75” wingspan 204lbs, He had a standing vertical leap of 33.5 inches (third-best at the combine) and a max vertical jump of 39.5 inches. He also recorded a 3.08-second shuttle run.

Pretty much the same size in my book

I think so too. I guess the only real difference is Trent Jr was a year older when he entered the league and we do not know if either grew more and how much weight either one added over the years.

Barrett's measurements are from the Hoop Summit (April 2018) a couple months before his 18th birthday, fwiw.

[PG Graveyard]

Did RJ steal Badgers girlfriend or something?

[BUCKnation]

Barrett for Kuzma would be ideal. Sort of a buy low guy.

Toronto for some reason seems to want to compete and are spending a ton of money, but don't really have any legit size besides Poetl. Maybe they sell themselves on dropping few million from their books and allowing Ingram, Barnes and Murray-Boyles to get more time as a natural 2/3 rather than super undersized 4's. Also, Barrett is kind of blocking Dick and Walter, their previous 2 firsts.

[RRyder823]

Are we really arguing whether Kuzma for Barrett and a 1st would be a good trade to make?

Wtf guys? You're better then this

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[Prez]

There’s a considerable portion of the national media that thinks we’re gonna be straight ass next season. Looking forward to that not factoring at all into the MVP discussion and the goalposts being shifted if/when Giannis leads us to being legit good.

[ShootingtheJ]

Please provide stats that show why Barrett is ideal next to GA. All I see are stats showing he is below league average from three, a sub par finisher at the rim, inefficient even though he only takes shots that are efficient, not a good defender, and doesn’t create for others.

I agree with most of what you said, but Barrett's strength is creating for others. That's most of his intrigue.

Last season:
RJB 5.4 apg 2.8 topg
Monk 5.6 apg 2.4 topg

Yup, and Monk was a full time PG for 1/3 of the season

[Bernman]

There’s a considerable portion of the national media that thinks we’re gonna be straight ass next season. Looking forward to that not factoring at all into the MVP discussion and the goalposts being shifted if/when Giannis leads us to being legit good.

I'd rather they admit they were wrong and the rest of the roster is far better than they were giving them credit for. But they won't do that either.

[Frank Nova]

Are we really arguing whether Kuzma for Barrett and a 1st would be a good trade to make?

Wtf guys? You're better then this

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No one is arguing it’s a bad deal for Milwaukee. I was the one that brought it up originally by wondering how bad would Toronto want to dump that contract based on that Raptors writers analysis that RJ’s contract is seen as completely negative value. I’d swap Kuzma for Barrett in a New York minute, Toronto adds a 1st and it’s a New York second…. I’m not sold that Horst would see it that way tho. That’s where the argument lies, some think Horst would also see that as a no brainer like the fans, I’m the devils advocate. In this situation, based off Horsts vision of Kuzma and the leagues vision of Barrett (apparently), Horst ain’t making that deal imo. Hopefully I’m wrong

[tedbrogen]

Was going purely off Hollinger NBA Player Statistics PER

PER doesn’t account for how much a subpar three point shooter kills spacing for GA. Post their shooting stats and let’s see how RJB stacks up against those three.

Are you saying that the only people that will work for this team around GA are shooters?

Just an FYI..In 23/24 and 24/25 Barrett was a 48%/35% and Middleton in 22/23 n 23/24 was 47%/35% ( took out injured last year )

Compare pre-slipping in the floor against the Bulls Midds against RJB next please. Or at least have the decency to provide highlight videos of each of them.

[tedbrogen]

PER doesn’t account for how much a subpar three point shooter kills spacing for GA. Post their shooting stats and let’s see how RJB stacks up against those three.

Are you saying that the only people that will work for this team around GA are shooters?

Just an FYI..In 23/24 and 24/25 Barrett was a 48%/35% and Middleton in 22/23 n 23/24 was 47%/35% ( took out injured last year )

Feels like we're really back on the mindset of "just throw 4 shooters (doesn't matter if they can't create) around Giannis and everything will be fine" and it's an overly simplified philosophy I've never agreed with. Having multiple ball-handlers/shot-creators is pretty much the one constant variable to any elite offense these days, and without a coach who runs a heavy pick and roll or motion offense, I'd argue it's even more important for us to find these kinds of guys wherever you can. You obviously wanna avoid the non-spacers and straight up liability guys, but a dude who shoots 35% overall on high volume isn't gonna muck up your spacing to any notable degree.

Eric Bledsoe shot 34% from three in the first two Bud years. /YouSureAboutThat.gif

[emunney]

There’s a considerable portion of the national media that thinks we’re gonna be straight ass next season. Looking forward to that not factoring at all into the MVP discussion and the goalposts being shifted if/when Giannis leads us to being legit good.

I'd rather they admit they were wrong and the rest of the roster is far better than they were giving them credit for. But they won't do that either.

It's going to be pandemonium around here when The Thing That Happens When Teams "Overachive" happens.

If you have a couple bucks to throw in a COY bet, that could be pretty lucrative. I am literally laughing out loud while I'm writing this but also I'm dead serious.

[emunney]

Any betting savvy posters who can find me a parlay on:

Bucks over
Giannis MVP
Doc COY?