Bears 12.0

[fleet]

By the way, what are you doing Bulls69?

[fleet]

Emma reports another bad day for Caleb. Operation a little better.

[Susan]

Tyson isn’t having any problems according to Courtney.

This is not the first time prep questions were raised on Caleb. Unknown if he has rededicated his efforts and is just having a slower absorption rate.

The reality is first you need a package of physical tools that will allow you to be successful as an NFL QB. Then after that, you probably need to dedicate nearly all 16 of your waking hours to football in order to be an elite NFL QB. There are enough guys with the physical tools that if you aren't working nearly 100%, someone else will be. Then after that, it still may not be enough.

Does Caleb have that? Early returns seem to be that he does not if I'm being honest. People will blame the coaches blame whomever, but the truth is that development is primarily on the player _always_ in all sports. Organizations can do a better or worse job of working with a guy, but 90%+ of the outcome is always on the player for putting in the work (assuming they have the tools).

That doesn't guarantee success of the team or system. A player can do all he needs to in order to become great, but then not have the talent around him to showcase it, but he can still do all he needs to do.

Hopefully Caleb has an "ah ha" moment or it just starts clicking with more time, or I'm simply totally wrong on reading the tea leaves from minor stuff around him. Like with Fields, I'd give my QB three years to figure it out, and more if there are good signs at the end of three, so we're really far away from a panic moment, but the early returns definitely aren't "this guy is a superstar for sure".

If the Bears were identifying these questions as questions is unknown. They didn’t bring any other quarterbacks in to Halas Hall, that we know. Poles made his mind up, and that was that. We will see how good of a process that was, either by luck or by instinct.

Poles process in the 2024 off-season was awful.

Daniels, Maye and JJ should have been brought in for interviews and there was no need to throw Fields out for nothing.

This is a Poles issue more than it is a Caleb issue.

It's been a QB support and development issue for his entire era. They let Caleb build bad habits last year because they had a rock bottom coaching staff on their way out.

[fleet]

The reality is first you need a package of physical tools that will allow you to be successful as an NFL QB. Then after that, you probably need to dedicate nearly all 16 of your waking hours to football in order to be an elite NFL QB. There are enough guys with the physical tools that if you aren't working nearly 100%, someone else will be. Then after that, it still may not be enough.

Does Caleb have that? Early returns seem to be that he does not if I'm being honest. People will blame the coaches blame whomever, but the truth is that development is primarily on the player _always_ in all sports. Organizations can do a better or worse job of working with a guy, but 90%+ of the outcome is always on the player for putting in the work (assuming they have the tools).

That doesn't guarantee success of the team or system. A player can do all he needs to in order to become great, but then not have the talent around him to showcase it, but he can still do all he needs to do.

Hopefully Caleb has an "ah ha" moment or it just starts clicking with more time, or I'm simply totally wrong on reading the tea leaves from minor stuff around him. Like with Fields, I'd give my QB three years to figure it out, and more if there are good signs at the end of three, so we're really far away from a panic moment, but the early returns definitely aren't "this guy is a superstar for sure".

If the Bears were identifying these questions as questions is unknown. They didn’t bring any other quarterbacks in to Halas Hall, that we know. Poles made his mind up, and that was that. We will see how good of a process that was, either by luck or by instinct.

Poles process in the 2024 off-season was awful.

Daniels, Maye and JJ should have been brought in for interviews and there was no need to throw Fields out for nothing.

This is a Poles issue more than it is a Caleb issue.

It's been a QB support and development issue for his entire era. They let Caleb build bad habits last year becausethey had a rock bottom coaching staff on their way out.

That’s an unfathomable statement, given the stakes. And Poles extension. The Poles extension was amongst the worst decisions as far as I can remember in Chicago. You just don’t do that after what we saw. Not now. A guy gets an extension after a successful production is shown on the field. On top of that, you try and ruin your #1 overall quarterback, after the last guy was raked over the coals as well. And that’s an extension? Guy had 2 years left on his deal, as well as accountability. Now the accountability is out. That’s not the way an elite team operates.

[Bulls69]

Tyson isn’t having any problems according to Courtney.

This is not the first time prep questions were raised on Caleb. Unknown if he has rededicated his efforts and is just having a slower absorption rate.

IMO Tyson is a better QB right now that Caleb. He does a lot of things very well...quick reads and throws, decent running ability...just lacks a deep ball. Caleb has way more potential, but that wasn't realized last year.

Every year we have the same debate about Tyson who is in his contract year I still don't believe Tyson right now is not better than Williams Tyson mainly plays thEvery year we have the same debate about Tyson, who is in his contract year. I still don't believe Tyson right now is better than Williams. Tyson mainly plays with the second team. I've seen what Ben did with Goff. I live in Los Angeles and have seen how bad he was playing with the Rams his last few years under McVay. Ben actually saved Jared Goff's career. I would not be surprised if the Bears trade Tyson at the trade deadline if a team gets desperate for a quarterback.


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[Bulls69]

By the way, what are you doing Bulls69?

What you mean?


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[Bulls69]

Emma reports another bad day for Caleb. Operation a little better.

It's a new offense, bro. I predicted that the offense is going to struggle for the first half of the season.


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[biggestbullsfan]

I want to give the offense 3 weeks to get it together. A lot easier for the defense to get on the same page. Ben Johnson’s offenses are complicated. If by the first joint practices it’s still bad, then idk lol

[Bulls69]

I want to give the offense [emoji[emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]]] weeks to get it together. A lot easier for the defense to get on the same page. Ben Johnson’s offenses are complicated. If by the first joint practices it’s still bad, then idk lol

I say midseason; hopefully, Luther Burden can get on the field soon.


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[Bulls69]

I hope our fan base doesn't think that the offense is going to be a finished product in the first few games; more likely, they will struggle coming out of the gate.


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[panthermark]

I hope our fan base doesn't think that the offense is going to be a finished product in the first few games; more likely, they will struggle coming out of the gate.


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There will not be a lot of patience.

#1 overall pick in his 2nd year at QB
Revamped interior O-line
Moore + Kmet + Swift + 2nd year #7 overall pick at WR + 1st round pick at TE + 2nd round pick at WR.
Boatload of money to an offensive minded HC

I expect the offense to stumble a bit, but not much, and not for long. A 6 or 7 win season with CW at the helm will be a major disappointment, and start to bring out the boo-birds.

[fleet]

By the way, what are you doing Bulls69?

What you mean?


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I’ve got a whole page of emojis in your replies. Or something weird. Emoji numbers.

[fleet]

Emma reports another bad day for Caleb. Operation a little better.

It's a new offense, bro. I predicted that the offense is going to struggle for the first half of the season.


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I’d like to see Bagent running with the ones just to be able to see what the problem is. He’s been the best quarterback in camp. Albeit with the 2s

[Bulls69]

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What you mean?


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I’ve got a whole page of emojis in your replies. Or something weird. Emoji numbers.

I'm sorry, I have a new phone and still haven't learned it yet. Sorry, bro.


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[Bulls69]

I hope our fan base doesn't think that the offense is going to be a finished product in the first few games; more likely, they will struggle coming out of the gate.


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There will not be a lot of patience.

#1 overall pick in his 2nd year at QB
Revamped interior O-line
Moore + Kmet + Swift + 2nd year #7 overall pick at WR + 1st round pick at TE + 2nd round pick at WR.
Boatload of money to an offensive minded HC

I expect the offense to stumble a bit, but not much, and not for long. A 6 or 7 win season with CW at the helm will be a major disappointment, and start to bring out the boo-birds.

I'm just be realistic all those new moving pieces doesn't always gel right away.


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[Bulls69]

Emma reports another bad day for Caleb. Operation a little better.

It's a new offense, bro. I predicted that the offense is going to struggle for the first half of the season.


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I’d like to see Bagent running with the ones just to be able to see what the problem is. He’s been the best quarterback in camp. Albeit with the [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]s

The Bears only had three practices I have enough of Tyson to realizes he's a backup.


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[molepharmer]

It's a new offense, bro. I predicted that the offense is going to struggle for the first half of the season.


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I’d like to see Bagent running with the ones just to be able to see what the problem is. He’s been the best quarterback in camp. Albeit with the [emoji[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]]]]s

The Bears only had three practices I have enough of Tyson to realizes he's a backup.


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Your reply to Fleet has the word "emoji" 528 times.

[_txchilibowl_]

New phone user or misunderstood genius?

[Bulls69]

New phone user or misunderstood genius?

Bro not done on purpose trust me


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[Bulls69]

Fleet I'm sorry bro


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