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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#221 » by wco81 » Thu Jul 24, 2025 7:28 pm

Kris Murray doesn't become an RFA until summer 2027, when he will turn 27 (August).

That seems pretty old for a player just coming off a rookie contract.

He's going to have to really improve his shooting though over the next two seasons.
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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#222 » by DaVoiceMaster » Thu Jul 24, 2025 7:38 pm

Lillard and Jrue reach out to their buddy Giannis and convince him to come here. Ideally, the Blazers trade Grant, Williams III, Thybulle, and as many picks and swaps as possible. Realistically, if you wanna call it that, it would take Scoot, Sharpe, Grant, and a couple of picks.

Then Giannis, Lillard, and Jrue chat with LeBron who becomes a free agent next summer to come win one more championship. That's my wish list... realistic or not.
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Post#223 » by Norm2953 » Thu Jul 24, 2025 8:34 pm

This would be like the Blazers/Bucks basically changed uniforms but let's say sent out Grant, any two
Blazers players and Milwaukee's picks/swaps back for GIannis.
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Post#224 » by PDXKnight » Thu Jul 24, 2025 9:19 pm

Wizenheimer wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
PDXKnight wrote:Id agree with the center position not so much the 4 which has evolved largely into something like an old school 3 from the 90's. You can get away with playing a true 3 a lot easier than playing two slow centers these days even if that player lacks in build, Aminu and Harkless played 4 in spots and we somehow made the wcf that year

Shmaybe. But then your forwards have to rebound and only Deni does that... I mean, all of our forwards sans Deni rebound like guards. Just sayin'

We are probably going to need to disagree on this one. But... I do get where you are coming from - we just don't have those 3s or 4s.

BTW, complete agreement on playing two slow Cs at the same time, it just doesn't work in this era of the NBA.


* last thing first: I find it amusing how Blazers fans will do mental gymnastics to justify having two slow-footed C's. I got sick of hearing people, last season, saying Ayton could play PF. No he couldn't, and he didn't. I don't believe Clingan and Ayton were ever on the floor together. And Clingan and Hansen won't be either. The only real justification for keeping both is that they are both still on rookie scale deals for the next 3 seasons. But after they graduate from their rookie deals, I believe the Blazers will have to choose one and move the other

* as far as a PF behind Deni, I'm still a bit baffled about the Blazers deciding to keep Reath and waive Jabari Walker. Jabari was an effective small-ball C and has the mobility to play PF. I don't think Reath has that combination of skills


Im really surprised they chose duop as well, Jabari by all accounts was a workhorse and he fit our needs better. And he was younger. Much rather would've brought him back especially for how cheap he signed
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Post#225 » by zzaj » Thu Jul 24, 2025 10:41 pm

PDXKnight wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Shmaybe. But then your forwards have to rebound and only Deni does that... I mean, all of our forwards sans Deni rebound like guards. Just sayin'

We are probably going to need to disagree on this one. But... I do get where you are coming from - we just don't have those 3s or 4s.

BTW, complete agreement on playing two slow Cs at the same time, it just doesn't work in this era of the NBA.


* last thing first: I find it amusing how Blazers fans will do mental gymnastics to justify having two slow-footed C's. I got sick of hearing people, last season, saying Ayton could play PF. No he couldn't, and he didn't. I don't believe Clingan and Ayton were ever on the floor together. And Clingan and Hansen won't be either. The only real justification for keeping both is that they are both still on rookie scale deals for the next 3 seasons. But after they graduate from their rookie deals, I believe the Blazers will have to choose one and move the other

* as far as a PF behind Deni, I'm still a bit baffled about the Blazers deciding to keep Reath and waive Jabari Walker. Jabari was an effective small-ball C and has the mobility to play PF. I don't think Reath has that combination of skills


Im really surprised they chose duop as well, Jabari by all accounts was a workhorse and he fit our needs better. And he was younger. Much rather would've brought him back especially for how cheap he signed


I also have been a bit confused by keeping Duop...I don't think Walker is much of an NBA player, but he has NBA skill and serves a role.

My guess is that with Timelord questionable to play any minutes at all this year, Yang likely not ready for a large backup role, Clingan not showing that he can stay healthy or in a big minute starting role...Duop at least has seen regular minutes...and may continue to see regular minutes if Clingan gets hurt this season.
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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#226 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jul 25, 2025 1:16 am

zzaj wrote:
PDXKnight wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:* last thing first: I find it amusing how Blazers fans will do mental gymnastics to justify having two slow-footed C's. I got sick of hearing people, last season, saying Ayton could play PF. No he couldn't, and he didn't. I don't believe Clingan and Ayton were ever on the floor together. And Clingan and Hansen won't be either. The only real justification for keeping both is that they are both still on rookie scale deals for the next 3 seasons. But after they graduate from their rookie deals, I believe the Blazers will have to choose one and move the other

* as far as a PF behind Deni, I'm still a bit baffled about the Blazers deciding to keep Reath and waive Jabari Walker. Jabari was an effective small-ball C and has the mobility to play PF. I don't think Reath has that combination of skills


Im really surprised they chose duop as well, Jabari by all accounts was a workhorse and he fit our needs better. And he was younger. Much rather would've brought him back especially for how cheap he signed


I also have been a bit confused by keeping Duop...I don't think Walker is much of an NBA player, but he has NBA skill and serves a role.

My guess is that with Timelord questionable to play any minutes at all this year, Yang likely not ready for a large backup role, Clingan not showing that he can stay healthy or in a big minute starting role...Duop at least has seen regular minutes...and may continue to see regular minutes if Clingan gets hurt this season.

It just feels like there was a bit of "not thinking ahead" and reacting rather than planning.

No way should Murray or Wesley be on the roster. Having said all that - moving Murray would have been tough, so the FO gets a pass.

Cissoko and Love are at best, meh two-ways. The FO could have and should have done better. Not signing a PF two-way to go along with Cissoko & Love, is a double meh.

Wesley, triple smh.

And the biggest miss was not signing a UFA PF BEFORE we signed Lillard. And if you are signing Lillard, you don't trade for Jrue.

On the other side. I am happy with the Yang signing and trade down for more assets. Getting Lillard back is fine, they should have been able to sign him for a bigger discount but okay.

Maybe there are consolidation trades coming - don't see it though.
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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#227 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Fri Jul 25, 2025 4:50 am

Diabate looks like the kind of rebounding defensive player I would like in a bench PF

2 seconds to swap him for Murray?
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Post#228 » by mg » Fri Jul 25, 2025 2:58 pm

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Diabate looks like the kind of rebounding defensive player I would like in a bench PF

2 seconds to swap him for Murray?


I think that's his ideal role but doubt the Hornets deal Diabate as he's likely be their starting center to begin this season. Their frontcourt is just way too thin at this point to deal anyone unless it's an extreme overpay.
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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#229 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Jul 25, 2025 3:52 pm

mg wrote:
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Diabate looks like the kind of rebounding defensive player I would like in a bench PF

2 seconds to swap him for Murray?


I think that's his ideal role but doubt the Hornets deal Diabate as he's likely be their starting center to begin this season. Their frontcourt is just way too thin at this point to deal anyone unless it's an extreme overpay.


Ya CHA has absurdly poor C depth. Diabate probably is their starter.

Precious isnt the rebounder Diabate is but might be had for a VM and can play PF. I think he will want to go somewhere where PT is more likely though (He was at 20mpg last season).

If OKC doesnt roster Barnhizer I would immediately scoop him up on a GTD rostered deal. That kid is going to be a serious role player.

I also like the idea of giving the last 2-way slot to Dante from UO.
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Post#230 » by zzaj » Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:15 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
mg wrote:
DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Diabate looks like the kind of rebounding defensive player I would like in a bench PF

2 seconds to swap him for Murray?


I think that's his ideal role but doubt the Hornets deal Diabate as he's likely be their starting center to begin this season. Their frontcourt is just way too thin at this point to deal anyone unless it's an extreme overpay.


Ya CHA has absurdly poor C depth. Diabate probably is their starter.

Precious isnt the rebounder Diabate is but might be had for a VM and can play PF. I think he will want to go somewhere where PT is more likely though (He was at 20mpg last season).

If OKC doesnt roster Barnhizer I would immediately scoop him up on a GTD rostered deal. That kid is going to be a serious role player.

I also like the idea of giving the last 2-way slot to Dante from UO.


Agreed on Barnhizer...a lot of what he does doesn't show up in the stat sheet. Very savvy basketball player, and should be a good role player for years to come.
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Post#231 » by Walton1one » Fri Jul 25, 2025 6:30 pm

3rd on Barnhizer, he looked pretty good in SL, very active, never going to light the world on fire, but as a deeper bench player to come in and give a team some solid minutes he could be useful, he already signed a 2-way with OKC.
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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#232 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:00 pm

Walton1one wrote:3rd on Barnhizer, he looked pretty good in SL, very active, never going to light the world on fire, but as a deeper bench player to come in and give a team some solid minutes he could be useful, he already signed a 2-way with OKC.


Could we not poach him if we offered him a roster spot? I think we have the room as well.

Poaching him would be a huge win to me. 100% that kid is a NBA player.
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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#233 » by Walton1one » Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:15 pm

not sure you can poach a 2-way player, would have to be traded I think
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Post#234 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:36 pm

You wait until the following year and then offer a slot.
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Re: Realistic Wish List??? 

Post#235 » by tester551 » Fri Jul 25, 2025 11:43 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
Walton1one wrote:3rd on Barnhizer, he looked pretty good in SL, very active, never going to light the world on fire, but as a deeper bench player to come in and give a team some solid minutes he could be useful, he already signed a 2-way with OKC.


Could we not poach him if we offered him a roster spot? I think we have the room as well.

Poaching him would be a huge win to me. 100% that kid is a NBA player.

Nope. 2-Way guys are exclusive to the team who own their rights.

You can sign a player on another team's g-league roster, but you can't steal their 2-way guys.

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