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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#161 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:30 am

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#162 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:30 am

WuTang_OG wrote:I really like loperfido

Hopefully another team with an elite RP does too
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#163 » by TOStateofMind » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:33 am

Looking like a replay of game 1 lol. Keep it rolling.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#164 » by HangTime » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:33 am

don't do any trades, everyone knows their roles, ride this wave.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#165 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:36 am

I think if you pay Vladdy $500 million, you have bought the right to make your own trades without his input.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#166 » by Boogie! » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:37 am

HangTime wrote:don't do any trades, everyone knows their roles, ride this wave.


I disagree in the playoffs you need some elite pitching… definitely need to add a starter and reliever at least
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#167 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:37 am

Siddal NEEDS to go bye bye. Praying for Buck for so many reasons…
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#168 » by Chris7711 » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:38 am

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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#169 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:39 am

HangTime wrote:don't do any trades, everyone knows their roles, ride this wave.

Not doing anything would be a great way to derail the momentum just like AA did in 2014.

Fortunately he learned from that mistake.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#170 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:40 am

SharoneWright wrote:Siddal NEEDS to go bye bye. Praying for Buck for so many reasons…

His insight is generally good but he talks too much at times (like that inning).
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#171 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:43 am

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SharoneWright wrote:Siddal NEEDS to go bye bye. Praying for Buck for so many reasons…

His insight is generally good but he talks too much at times (like that inning).


You’re definitely right about part two… In terms of his insight, has he ever taught you anything? Does he have any stories? Is his sense of humour very good? Or does he just repeat the company line and whatever Dan says… in a voice like he’s learning to use talk to text. Way over-enunciated and way too verbal without really saying anything.Rogers always look for these Canadians, and I have no idea why.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#172 » by Boogie! » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:46 am

Crazy how offense was supposed to be bichette guerrero santander and no one else, and instead Santander has been a non factor, Springer has been our best hitter, Kirk is hitting over 300, barger has stepped up and a bunch of our role players have carried the offense for stretches in the season. Just completely unexpected
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#173 » by Mehar » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:48 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:I really like loperfido

Hopefully another team with an elite RP does too


I rather deal your hero Varsho for a good reliever if that is possible. Love Varsho's Defense, but looking at how this team is performing ever since he got hurt- I am not sure you need his elite late inning defense anymore when you have Straw for that role. You need offense, and Lukes has been providing that in CF.

Varsho does have power, but he also strikes out a lot while hitting .200. The more I think of it, Varsho would be my trade bait right now. He will be looking around 10 million next year also in arbitration. Loperfido is making $760,000 this year and is a guy I do not really want to move unless I get an elite, controllable player back. Obviously, it would be a sad day for you, but Varsho is the guy right now I would be offering up for a trade.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#174 » by Boogie! » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:54 am

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Boogie! wrote:Honestly the offense turned around when we weren’t forced to play gimenez and santander… barger, clement, lukes, etc all stepped up.


This is a such a nonsense take that isn't supported by any actual proof. Almost all of the bats were very cold at the start of the season, including the guys you just named (Clement, Lukes, Barger), but also guys like Kirk who didn't actually start hitting until May.

Here is your actual picture of the Blue Jays offense: they became very good starting around ~May 1st, which is when the team "turned it around" (since May 1st they have the best record in the league).

If you look at the individual hitter stats from the start of the season till April 30th, you see the following:

Clement: .239/.276/.282 - 56 wRC+
Kirk: .239/.269/.341 - 68 wRC+
Lukes: .222/.326/.333 - 89 wRC+
Wagner: .186/.284/.220 - 49 wRC+
Barger: .185/.214/.296 - 37 wRC+ (small sample)
Schneider: .067/.333/.067 - 50 wRC+ (small sample)
Guerrero: .268/.362/.402 - 116 wRC+
Bichette: .295/.328/.364 - 93 wRC+

The only regular who was actually hitting in that time-frame was Springer:

Springer: .306/.406/.482 - 148 wRC+

During that time-frame, Gimenez and Santander posted the following:

Gimenez: .165/.258/.284 - 55 wRC+
Santander: .175/.258/.316 - 61 wRC+

So yes, they were both absolutely sucking with the bat as well, but the idea that the entire offense was being dragged down by these two alone is complete nonsense. The reality is that almost NO ONE was hitting from the start of the season in March to April 30th, and that includes not only Bichette (93 wRC+), Kirk (68 wRC+), and Guerrero (116 wRC+), but also the guys who would have replaced Gimenez/Santander in the lineup had they not theoretically been on the team (Clement, Lukes, Schneider, Wagner, Barger).

It is incredibly insincere to try to suggest that guys like Barger, Clement, Kirk, etc. were performing as you currently see them when Santander/Gimenez were struggling, and therefore it was just those two bad hitters ruining the party for everyone else.


You’re right it’s insincere to suggest that Lukes, barger, clement and the rest of the team not named Santander or gimenez stepping up had anything to do with our improvement as a team. Tell me more about why Guerrero isn’t hitting as many homers this year. You’re a baseball savant.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#175 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:57 am

Mehar wrote:
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WuTang_OG wrote:I really like loperfido

Hopefully another team with an elite RP does too


I rather deal your hero Varsho for a good reliever if that is possible. Love Varsho's Defense, but looking at how this team is performing ever since he got hurt- I am not sure you need his elite late inning defense anymore when you have Straw for that role. You need offense, and Lukes has been providing that in CF.

Varsho does have power, but he also strikes out a lot while hitting .200. The more I think of it, Varsho would be my trade bait right now. He will be looking around 10 million next year also in arbitration. Loperfido is making $760,000 this year and is a guy I do not really want to move unless I get an elite, controllable player back. Obviously, it would be a sad day for you, but Varsho is the guy right now I would be offering up for a trade.

Varsho is either the 1st or 2nd most valuable player on this team (right there with your favourite Kirk) and he’s fortunately going nowhere. This team is about to upgrade hugely on Loperfido in a couple of days.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#176 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:58 am

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SharoneWright wrote:Siddal NEEDS to go bye bye. Praying for Buck for so many reasons…

His insight is generally good but he talks too much at times (like that inning).


You’re definitely right about part two… In terms of his insight, has he ever taught you anything? Does he have any stories? Is his sense of humour very good? Or does he just repeat the company line and whatever Dan says… in a voice like he’s learning to use talk to text. Way over-enunciated and way too verbal without really saying anything.Rogers always look for these Canadians, and I have no idea why.

Yes re taught me anything

Not really re stories or humour but I don’t care as much about that.

His in-game strategy and sense is quite good, which isn’t surprising for a backup catcher.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#177 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:58 am

Joey LoperMaggio
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#178 » by SharoneWright » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:59 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:His insight is generally good but he talks too much at times (like that inning).


You’re definitely right about part two… In terms of his insight, has he ever taught you anything? Does he have any stories? Is his sense of humour very good? Or does he just repeat the company line and whatever Dan says… in a voice like he’s learning to use talk to text. Way over-enunciated and way too verbal without really saying anything.Rogers always look for these Canadians, and I have no idea why.

Yes re taught me anything

Not really re stories or humour but I don’t care as much about that.

His in-game strategy and sense is quite good, which isn’t surprising for a backup catcher.


Well, at least he’s a salt of the earth guy. On a personal level, I’m glad he gets the gig.
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#179 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:04 am

Berrios done at 85 pitches, odd
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Re: Toronto Blue Jays @ Detroit Tigers, July 24-27 

Post#180 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:05 am

Fisher looked as bad as he had all season last time out, hope the rest did him some good
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