CS707 wrote:vvoland wrote:CS707 wrote:I don’t know that the nuance of that number being what he was seeking rather than what the Warriors were offering changes the narrative that his camp significantly overshot his market value. What it actually sounds like is that the Warriors front office realized very quickly that the sides were too far apart for productive discussion and chose the wait and see approach.
If their concern really was the poison pill, like slater said, and they didn't make
any contract offer, it sounds like his camp had/has little to do with it.
I don't think any contract would have worked (maybe something like what moody signed is small enough to minimize the PP impact?). Last summer, using JJ as the comp to start a negotiation makes a ton of sense, from the agency side.
Somehow, that got leaked as something JK rejected when nothing, at all, was even offered.
Not making an offer doesn’t mean they didn’t talk numbers. There is a lot of contradictory information out there so who knows what’s the actual truth but I doubt very much that there was zero willingness to engage in reasonable discussion by the Warriors. Up until recently JK was supposedly off limits as a trade option by the organization. Now they wanted to trade him so badly that they refused to talk extension? At the same time, they’re supposedly fighting to retain him this offseason? To me, this feels a lot like JKs camp trying to get control of the narrative.
If the warriors really were more concerned about being able to flip him mid season as bait for their "big game hunt" I don't think the discussions could have been all that meaningful, almost by definition.
I don't recall the poison pill provisions but I don't think the extension could have been for much more than he made last year in order for him to be a decent trade asset. It would have been crazy for them not to approach JK, just in case he wanted to lock in a contract like what moody got, which would only be like a 20% raise, avoiding the PP stuff, I believe. At that point, if they heard the Jalen Johnson contract offered as the comp to start negotiations, they probably decided to stay flexible and punt the extension to this summer.
That's my working theory as it makes the most logical sense, by far, for both sides:
Dubs ask about expectations hoping to hear something that would allow them to negotiate an extension in the 4/60 range so they can move him if Giannis or Butler become available.
JK answers that he sees the JJ contract as a good comp.
The dubs quietly exit, stage left.
In this scenario, everyone does exactly what their clear and obvious expectations are. I'm a bit disappointed I needed slater to spell it out for me.
