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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#261 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:08 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:I guess Dru Smith waited too long so Heat pulled his two-way offer and gave it to this Gardner dude?

No we have a spot left open for him.
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Post#262 » by al bondiga » Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:16 pm

If powell can have as much as an impact or input to scoring as herro has... We are good contenders my friend!!

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Post#263 » by Johnny Fontane » Fri Jul 25, 2025 7:34 pm

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SoFlaKingReal wrote:I guess Dru Smith waited too long so Heat pulled his two-way offer and gave it to this Gardner dude?

No we have a spot left open for him.


Going to be another wasted roster spot. Doubt he’s even viable when he returns
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#264 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:04 pm

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SoFlaKingReal wrote:I guess Dru Smith waited too long so Heat pulled his two-way offer and gave it to this Gardner dude?

No we have a spot left open for him.


Going to be another wasted roster spot. Doubt he’s even viable when he returns

Could be what we are waiting on. Maybe needs to base some recovery baseline test.
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Post#265 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:14 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#266 » by Kobewade11 » Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:30 pm

Johnny Fontane wrote:Hope I’m wrong but I’m willing to bet Powell will have the same issues fitting into this squad that Wiggins, Rozier, Lowry, last year Butler have had with this group. When you got role players like Bam and Herro playing star roles and taking that many shots a night you’re going to have issues

Wiggins was taking more shots per game with us than he did in Golden State. Powell has a completely different skillset than both Rozier and Lowry. Tbh I’m having a hard time figuring out how ‘star roles’ for Bam and Herro impacted any of these guys mentioned aside from Jimmy and his 1990s game.
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Post#267 » by Johnny Fontane » Fri Jul 25, 2025 9:53 pm

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Johnny Fontane wrote:Hope I’m wrong but I’m willing to bet Powell will have the same issues fitting into this squad that Wiggins, Rozier, Lowry, last year Butler have had with this group. When you got role players like Bam and Herro playing star roles and taking that many shots a night you’re going to have issues

Wiggins was taking more shots per game with us than he did in Golden State. Powell has a completely different skillset than both Rozier and Lowry. Tbh I’m having a hard time figuring out how ‘star roles’ for Bam and Herro impacted any of these guys mentioned aside from Jimmy and his 1990s game.


Just trying to figure out the trend of guys considered scorers elsewhere then they get here and look broken
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#268 » by Kobewade11 » Fri Jul 25, 2025 10:04 pm

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Johnny Fontane wrote:Hope I’m wrong but I’m willing to bet Powell will have the same issues fitting into this squad that Wiggins, Rozier, Lowry, last year Butler have had with this group. When you got role players like Bam and Herro playing star roles and taking that many shots a night you’re going to have issues

Wiggins was taking more shots per game with us than he did in Golden State. Powell has a completely different skillset than both Rozier and Lowry. Tbh I’m having a hard time figuring out how ‘star roles’ for Bam and Herro impacted any of these guys mentioned aside from Jimmy and his 1990s game.


Just trying to figure out the trend of guys considered scorers elsewhere then they get here and look broken

I think the combo of Powell being a better shooter than any of the guards mentioned and Bam finally taking his game behind the arch should make for a different experience, maybe thats me being an optimist
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Post#269 » by CWebb2491 » Fri Jul 25, 2025 10:34 pm

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He would have took minutes away from Mitchelll, Kaspa, Larson, JJJ.

It would of made sense to make that trade if we were looking to contend but this is a development season for a lot of the young talent (Ware, Jovic, JJJ, Larson, Mitchell)

We got assets to acquire 1sts in Powell ( I can see a contender valuing a veteran proven 3pt sniper ) or even Wiggins.

We’ll have pieces and can free up cap flexibility next summer.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#271 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jul 25, 2025 10:43 pm

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This gives me hope for Vucevic trade. Will take giving asset but oh well.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#272 » by SoFlaKingReal » Fri Jul 25, 2025 10:57 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:I guess Dru Smith waited too long so Heat pulled his two-way offer and gave it to this Gardner dude?

No we have a spot left open for him.


I see, I thought teams only had two two-ways.
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Post#273 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sat Jul 26, 2025 4:32 am

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#274 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jul 26, 2025 5:01 am

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Mentioned this deal a bunch of times. Rozier 26.6 for DeRozan 24.7 gets us out of the tax. DeRozan anchors the second unit scoring.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#275 » by ZoStrong » Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:02 am

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Give the Bulls an asset and let them buyout Rozier instead. This should be a layup


Terry Wiggins and KJ for Vuc and The Giddler


Heat management is in tunnel vision at this point. No faith they will do anything else to improve the team. The strategy appears to be “run it back” on a team that just had the worse playoff performance in NBA history.




The wose playoff performance in the NBA history?

Come on, they won 37 games, playing against a 64 win team. Their best player giving up on the team. Without the play-in tournaments, they don't even make the playoffs. Let's not be so extreme.

Ok, the worst performance since the play-in tournament began. I'll give you that, lol

I certainly believe they'll win more more than 37 games. That's technically an "improvement", right?
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Post#276 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:32 am

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The wose playoff performance in the NBA history?

Come on, they won 37 games, playing against a 64 win team. Their best player giving up on the team. Without the play-in tournaments, they don't even make the playoffs. Let's not be so extreme.

Ok, the worst performance since the play-in tournament began. I'll give you that, lol

I certainly believe they'll win more more than 37 games. That's technically an "improvement", right?


Cavaliers crush Heat in most lopsided series in NBA playoff history: Historic sweep by the numbers

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cavaliers-crush-heat-in-most-lopsided-series-in-nba-playoff-history-historic-sweep-by-the-numbers/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#277 » by VaDe255 » Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:56 am

HeatFanLifer wrote:
ZoStrong wrote:
The wose playoff performance in the NBA history?

Come on, they won 37 games, playing against a 64 win team. Their best player giving up on the team. Without the play-in tournaments, they don't even make the playoffs. Let's not be so extreme.

Ok, the worst performance since the play-in tournament began. I'll give you that, lol

I certainly believe they'll win more more than 37 games. That's technically an "improvement", right?


Cavaliers crush Heat in most lopsided series in NBA playoff history: Historic sweep by the numbers

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cavaliers-crush-heat-in-most-lopsided-series-in-nba-playoff-history-historic-sweep-by-the-numbers/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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Right, because if it had been a close sweep, then obviously the banners would be going up and legacies would be saved!

They fought their way to the playoffs through adversity and lost in the first round that's all that really matters here. The rest is just narrative to make the team look a certain way for frustrated fans
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Post#278 » by HeatFanLifer » Sat Jul 26, 2025 8:07 am

VaDe255 wrote:
HeatFanLifer wrote:
ZoStrong wrote:
The wose playoff performance in the NBA history?

Come on, they won 37 games, playing against a 64 win team. Their best player giving up on the team. Without the play-in tournaments, they don't even make the playoffs. Let's not be so extreme.

Ok, the worst performance since the play-in tournament began. I'll give you that, lol

I certainly believe they'll win more more than 37 games. That's technically an "improvement", right?


Cavaliers crush Heat in most lopsided series in NBA playoff history: Historic sweep by the numbers

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cavaliers-crush-heat-in-most-lopsided-series-in-nba-playoff-history-historic-sweep-by-the-numbers/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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Right, because if it had been a close sweep, then obviously the banners would be going up and legacies would be saved!

They fought their way to the playoffs through adversity and lost in the first round that's all that really matters here. The rest is just narrative to make the team look a certain way for frustrated fans



What adversity? Jimmy Butler wanting to leave? The second the Heat realized they weren’t going to pay him what he wanted, they should have known he was going to want to leave given both: 1) their history of dealing with players that wanted to leave over money (Shaq and Wade) 2) Jimmy’s history of wanting the max deal

What adversity? An almost fully healthy team getting the worst defeat in nba playoff history?

What adversity? Losing Rozier to an ankle injury?

Is any of that **** adversity? Looks like poor personnel management and awful coaching to me. There was nothing to build on coming off the worst playoff performance in nba history. The team needs to fully rebuild. But it won’t cuz they probably think they succeeded through some self made adversity. Ridiculous nonsense.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#279 » by ZoStrong » Sat Jul 26, 2025 8:41 am

HeatFanLifer wrote:
ZoStrong wrote:
The wose playoff performance in the NBA history?

Come on, they won 37 games, playing against a 64 win team. Their best player giving up on the team. Without the play-in tournaments, they don't even make the playoffs. Let's not be so extreme.

Ok, the worst performance since the play-in tournament began. I'll give you that, lol

I certainly believe they'll win more more than 37 games. That's technically an "improvement", right?


Cavaliers crush Heat in most lopsided series in NBA playoff history: Historic sweep by the numbers

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cavaliers-crush-heat-in-most-lopsided-series-in-nba-playoff-history-historic-sweep-by-the-numbers/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

This is what I mean my friend



Again, before the play-in tournament was adopted, Miami Heat wouldn't even made it to the playoffs to receive that pounding.
So comparing that to all the games prior to that when only top 8 teams played in each conference is not fair, don't you think?
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Re: 2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6 

Post#280 » by ZoStrong » Sat Jul 26, 2025 8:46 am

HeatFanLifer wrote:
VaDe255 wrote:
HeatFanLifer wrote:
Cavaliers crush Heat in most lopsided series in NBA playoff history: Historic sweep by the numbers

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cavaliers-crush-heat-in-most-lopsided-series-in-nba-playoff-history-historic-sweep-by-the-numbers/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

This is what I mean my friend


Right, because if it had been a close sweep, then obviously the banners would be going up and legacies would be saved!

They fought their way to the playoffs through adversity and lost in the first round that's all that really matters here. The rest is just narrative to make the team look a certain way for frustrated fans



What adversity? Jimmy Butler wanting to leave? The second the Heat realized they weren’t going to pay him what he wanted, they should have known he was going to want to leave given both: 1) their history of dealing with players that wanted to leave over money (Shaq and Wade) 2) Jimmy’s history of wanting the max deal

What adversity? An almost fully healthy team getting the worst defeat in nba playoff history?

What adversity? Losing Rozier to an ankle injury?

Is any of that **** adversity? Looks like poor personnel management and awful coaching to me. There was nothing to build on coming off the worst playoff performance in nba history. The team needs to fully rebuild. But it won’t cuz they probably think they succeeded through some self made adversity. Ridiculous nonsense.



Ya ya, they should've know that he was gonna throw tantrums after saying he would play out the season without the extension. They should've know that LeBron was gonna leave. They should've known that Beasley was a bust. And Windslow too. They should've known everything. Jeez, why this team don't know anything when 31 other teams know everything?! I just don't get it

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