New York and LA

[DanishLakerFan]

To trade concepts.

1. Mikal Bridges to LA for Reaves.
I know LA has to add value, but Bridges could leave for nothing in the summer or potentially demand a deal that is too steep. Could be Reaves+Vando+picks?
For LA he fills a major need at the wing between Lebron and Luka.

2. Lebron for KAT.
Some dude from B/R think KAT is one of the worst contracts in the league. Not sure I agree, but the idea is interesting and KAT does have his limitations. Lebron would probably balance the team quite a bit and if he won in NY his legacy would get a major boost. For LA they essentially would have two of the most offensively gifted players and try to build around that with defense and shooting.

[Yenrallik1111]

To trade concepts.

1. Mikal Bridges to LA for Reaves.
I know LA has to add value, but Bridges could leave for nothing in the summer or potentially demand a deal that is too steep. Could be Reaves+Vando+picks?
For LA he fills a major need at the wing between Lebron and Luka.

2. Lebron for KAT.
Some dude from B/R think KAT is one of the worst contracts in the league. Not sure I agree, but the idea is interesting and KAT does have his limitations. Lebron would probably balance the team quite a bit and if he won in NY his legacy would get a major boost. For LA they essentially would have two of the most offensively gifted players and try to build around that with defense and shooting.

Sooo, you say Mikal would fit well between luka and LeBron then in trade 2, trade Lebron

I think they keep LeBron and his expiring. Keep their options open. The mikal trade might be interesting.

[jbk1234]

To trade concepts.

1. Mikal Bridges to LA for Reaves.
I know LA has to add value, but Bridges could leave for nothing in the summer or potentially demand a deal that is too steep. Could be Reaves+Vando+picks?
For LA he fills a major need at the wing between Lebron and Luka.

2. Lebron for KAT.
Some dude from B/R think KAT is one of the worst contracts in the league. Not sure I agree, but the idea is interesting and KAT does have his limitations. Lebron would probably balance the team quite a bit and if he won in NY his legacy would get a major boost. For LA they essentially would have two of the most offensively gifted players and try to build around that with defense and shooting.

Sooo, you say Mikal would fit well between luka and LeBron then in trade 2, trade Lebron

I think they keep LeBron and his expiring. Keep their options open. The mikal trade might be interesting.

Bridges is a better fit than Reaves next to Luka which should be the priority. I agree that a KAT/Luka pairing could be problematic for defensive reasons.

[cgf]

Sounds like something a Lakers fan would suggest.

How about KAT for Luka?

[Apz]

Sounds like something a Lakers fan would suggest.

How about KAT for Luka?

Sounds like a banhammer. Trust me, had enough of those

[cgf]

Sounds like something a Lakers fan would suggest.

How about KAT for Luka?

Sounds like a banhammer. Trust me, had enough of those

Towns would really open up the court for LeBron…

[taikibansei]

Lakers have no picks of worth to send, and Vando sucks/wouldn't make our bench. This said, I personally wouldn't mind trading Bridges--while he's definitely worth his current salary, he likely will become less "worth it" under the new contract being negotiated now. Reaves is a great start--he's also well worth his current contract--but the salaries don't match (and remember that Reaves will want a new contract soon as well). While interesting as a concept, there's not much else on the Lakers' roster that I'd want (outside of Luka), so I personally don't see a trade happening on this. Still, again, interesting idea.

Regarding Lebron for KAT, I'm just going to repeat myself from the other fifteen+ trade proposals that have been made here on this topic:

The common element of all these proposed Knicks trades for Lebron is that nobody can ever explain what's in it for the Knicks...so posters don't even bother trying (beyond writing some variation of "they'll be a contender!!").

On paper, we're already the next best EC team after the Cavs right now (though I worry that the step-down in coaching quality is going to cause us to under-perform significantly next season). Given this, do any of these proposed trades for Lebron make us significantly better than we already are? Hmm....

KAT was arguably better than 40-year-old Lebron James last season, and my money's on the much younger KAT being better than Lebron this coming season. Disagree? Fine...but it's close enough that I struggle to see why we'd take a flyer on the easily disgruntled, soon to be 41-year-old who (at $53 million in salary...) is possibly playing out his final year. The disaster potential is just too high. I mean, despite his flaws, KAT fills two important roles (scoring and rebounding) and he actually likes playing on the Knicks. When in doubt, I want to keep the guy that really wants to be here, particularly as he's arguably the better player.

As for trading OG and Robinson for Lebron, this would leave the Knicks (a team which often struggled with defense last season) without our two best defenders. As the soon to be 41-year-old Lebron can't play sustained, high-level defense anymore (or he would have tried doing so last season), the resulting squad would give up substantially more than it can score...and struggle to make the play-in. Again, this should be an easy rejection by our FO.

[DanishLakerFan]

To trade concepts.

1. Mikal Bridges to LA for Reaves.
I know LA has to add value, but Bridges could leave for nothing in the summer or potentially demand a deal that is too steep. Could be Reaves+Vando+picks?
For LA he fills a major need at the wing between Lebron and Luka.

2. Lebron for KAT.
Some dude from B/R think KAT is one of the worst contracts in the league. Not sure I agree, but the idea is interesting and KAT does have his limitations. Lebron would probably balance the team quite a bit and if he won in NY his legacy would get a major boost. For LA they essentially would have two of the most offensively gifted players and try to build around that with defense and shooting.

Sooo, you say Mikal would fit well between luka and LeBron then in trade 2, trade Lebron

I think they keep LeBron and his expiring. Keep their options open. The mikal trade might be interesting.

I wouldn't trade Lebron if they could do a Mikal trade.

[daoneandonly]

Mikal is much more valuable than Austin Reaves

[Astaluego]

Reaves is the same age as Luka and if you surround them with good defenders, it could work, the same way Luka + Irving worked (I'm talking about the fit) ... Lebron + (FRP 2031) goes to NY to try to win a championship and OG + Robinson to the LAKERS ... (The Knicks continue signing Horford or Boucher to replace Robinson), Lebron would play another year after this one in this scenario

Brunson/Hart/Bridges/LeBron/KAT
Mcbridge/Clarksson/Yabusele/Horford

[cgf]

Reaves is the same age as Luka and if you surround them with good defenders, it could work, the same way Luka + Irving worked (I'm talking about the fit) ... Lebron + (FRP 2031) goes to NY to try to win a championship and OG + Robinson to the LAKERS ... (The Knicks continue signing Horford or Boucher to replace Robinson), Lebron would play another year after this one in this scenario

Brunson/Hart/Bridges/LeBron/KAT
Mcbridge/Clarksson/Yabusele/Horford

Why the hell would New York trade it’s two best defenders for LeBron?

[Texas Chuck]

Bridges is a better fit than Reaves next to Luka which should be the priority.

On paper this sounds right, but seems pretty relevant that in Dallas the Mavs found their most success when they paired Luka with Brunson and Kyrie.

[Texas Chuck]

Sounds like something a Lakers fan would suggest.

How about KAT for Luka?

You have continued to do this in too many threads. These counters are against board policy. Please find a different way to express your dislike of a deal that is constructive.

[jbk1234]

Bridges is a better fit than Reaves next to Luka which should be the priority.

On paper this sounds right, but seems pretty relevant that in Dallas the Mavs found their most success when they paired Luka with Brunson and Kyrie.

They also drafted Lively, traded for PJ, and traded Gafford. In fact, but for Lively and Gafford, I don't think the Mavs would've gotten past OKC. I suspect that they wouldn't have gotten past OKC with Hartenstein last postseason even if they kept Luka.

However, even if you think Kyrie was more impactful than the Mavs other additions that season, Reaves isn't prime Kyrie. Prime Kyrie was an elite 2nd option offensively, even in the playoffs.

[Texas Chuck]

Bridges is a better fit than Reaves next to Luka which should be the priority.

On paper this sounds right, but seems pretty relevant that in Dallas the Mavs found their most success when they paired Luka with Brunson and Kyrie.

They also drafted Lively, traded for PJ, and traded Gafford. In fact, but for Lively and Gafford, I don't think the Mavs would've gotten past OKC. I suspect that they wouldn't have gotten past OKC with Hartenstein last postseason even if they kept Luka.

However, even if you think Kyrie was more impactful than the Mavs other additions that season, Reaves isn't prime Kyrie. Prime Kyrie was an elite 2nd option offensively, even in the playoffs.

Dallas was in the WCF with none of those bigs, running out Dwight Powell and Maxi Kleber at center and DFS and Bullock JR on the wings.

Now Brunson and Kyrie are certainly different level of players than Reaves, but what we have learned is that when there wasn't a quality 2nd shot creator next to Luka, the rim runners and forwards didn't really make a difference.

Were LA to trade Reaves for a player like Reaves they would have to backfill with a guy of at least Reaves' quality particularly since it sounds like this is Lebron's last year there. Luka is amazing, but if your whole offense is Luka, I have real doubts about your team's ceiling.

[jayjaysee]

I don’t think LBJ wants to be traded, but I do think LAL should take that deal if he does.

Trade one I think ends up needing to look something like

Reaves+Dalton+2028 swap+2030 swap to NY
Bridges to LA
Vincent+2nds to third team

I really don’t think NY should be getting worse with how good they looked last year but they are owed in a Reaves/Bridges swap imo.

Then if you do get Bridges, you hope LBJ’s body lasts another 2 years some how

[Vae Victus]

I wonder who gets a bigger contract next offseason. Reaves or Bridges? Or will both be overpaid due to their home teams being stuck with overpaying them, otherwise losing for nothing in return. NYK paid out the nose for Bridges with all those picks, but Lakers need to hit a HR with their cap space to justify losing both Lebron and Reaves to FA to clear that cap space.

[jbk1234]

I don’t think LBJ wants to be traded, but I do think LAL should take that deal if he does.

Trade one I think ends up needing to look something like

Reaves+Dalton+2028 swap+2030 swap to NY
Bridges to LA
Vincent+2nds to third team

I really don’t think NY should be getting worse with how good they looked last year but they are owed in a Reaves/Bridges swap imo.

Then if you do get Bridges, you hope LBJ’s body lasts another 2 years some how

It keeps getting reported that LBJ has a NTC, but I think that might be sloppy reporting.

[jayjaysee]

I don’t think LBJ wants to be traded, but I do think LAL should take that deal if he does.

Trade one I think ends up needing to look something like

Reaves+Dalton+2028 swap+2030 swap to NY
Bridges to LA
Vincent+2nds to third team

I really don’t think NY should be getting worse with how good they looked last year but they are owed in a Reaves/Bridges swap imo.

Then if you do get Bridges, you hope LBJ’s body lasts another 2 years some how

It keeps getting reported that LBJ has a NTC, but I think that might be sloppy reporting.

I trust in Spotrac saying he has one?

But even if he doesn’t, I don’t think you trade LBJ unless he asks. He’s Lebron. Even if you are done with him, you make money off of him for the last year, respect his legacy and tell him no thanks next season.. Unless Joker or Giannis or something ridiculous gets offered, you keep Lebron for one year and move on quietly next year?

[jbk1234]

I don’t think LBJ wants to be traded, but I do think LAL should take that deal if he does.

Trade one I think ends up needing to look something like

Reaves+Dalton+2028 swap+2030 swap to NY
Bridges to LA
Vincent+2nds to third team

I really don’t think NY should be getting worse with how good they looked last year but they are owed in a Reaves/Bridges swap imo.

Then if you do get Bridges, you hope LBJ’s body lasts another 2 years some how

It keeps getting reported that LBJ has a NTC, but I think that might be sloppy reporting.

I trust in Spotrac saying he has one?

But even if he doesn’t, I don’t think you trade LBJ unless he asks. He’s Lebron. Even if you are done with him, you make money off of him for the last year, respect his legacy and tell him no thanks next season.. Unless Joker or Giannis or something ridiculous gets offered, you keep Lebron for one year and move on quietly next year?

Oh, I 100% think the receiving team should not trade for LBJ unless LBJ signs off on it regardless of any NTC. That's a super bad idea.