Where Jonathan Kuminga ends ?

mkot · Post #161 » by **mkot** » Sat Jul 26, 2025 9:23 am

At the end of the day, Kuminga's side mis-read the market, and the Warriors missed the opportunity to trade him for real assets when his value is still high when his relationship with Kerr went sour. I believe it was after the loss to Denver and it was leaked that his lost his trust in Kerr, they should have pull the trigger and get a real player back.

When is the last time a RFA situation became this toxic?

Post #162 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:35 pm

The Warriors need to do a better job at evaluating and drafting. Warriors fans on Realgm could do a better job.

Drafting James Wiseman second overall and Jonathan Kuminga seventh overall have set the Warriors back. Good luck on a rebuild when the time comes.

Optms · Post #163 » by **Optms** » Sat Jul 26, 2025 1:02 pm

mkot wrote:At the end of the day, Kuminga's side mis-read the market, and the Warriors missed the opportunity to trade him for real assets when his value is still high when his relationship with Kerr went sour. I believe it was after the loss to Denver and it was leaked that his lost his trust in Kerr, they should have pull the trigger and get a real player back.

When is the last time a RFA situation became this toxic?

This is all selt created from the Warriors side.

Players rejecting extensions is normal. What isn't normal is destroying that players value there after. They intentionally DNP'd him hoping to lower his value and they succeeded. Problem is they are trying to trade him. So asking for a 1st, a prospect and no bad contracts is delusion of the highest order.

Dan Z · Post #164 » by **Dan Z** » Sat Jul 26, 2025 4:48 pm

PlatinumState wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
magee wrote:
He's getting taxed on $90, but he's still getting close to $35+ after the payouts to agents and whatever else he has.

Plus, he'll probably get endorsement deals during that time too.

I don't know about you, but I can figure out how to make 35 million last for a long time.

You should know theres a 4% limit to what a agent can take. So no, a player isnt getting 35 out of 90 but significantly more. On this board people think an agent gets 10% or more

If Kuminga can get 15-20 million dollars per year on a short deal, then he should take it. It'll set him up for life and he can worry about the rest later. There have been many players in Kumingas situation who don't work out in the NBA and eventually fade away (Jabari Parker comers to mind, even though he didn't have a contract situation like this).

Post #165 » by **Capn'O** » Sun Jul 27, 2025 3:57 am

Optms wrote:
mkot wrote:At the end of the day, Kuminga's side mis-read the market, and the Warriors missed the opportunity to trade him for real assets when his value is still high when his relationship with Kerr went sour. I believe it was after the loss to Denver and it was leaked that his lost his trust in Kerr, they should have pull the trigger and get a real player back.

When is the last time a RFA situation became this toxic?

This is all selt created from the Warriors side.

Players rejecting extensions is normal. What isn't normal is destroying that players value there after. They intentionally DNP'd him hoping to lower his value and they succeeded. Problem is they are trying to trade him. So asking for a 1st, a prospect and no bad contracts is delusion of the highest order.

This is the folly of the two timelines. The Warriors all seem to legitimately believe in Kuminga but also recognize that he doesn't help them win now. Specifically, the management side probably leans towards his development where Kerr doesn't want to play him. As you said, they should have moved on already.

rapluva · Post #166 » by **rapluva** » Sun Jul 27, 2025 4:41 am

Sign and trade to Sacramento for Demar Derozan and change..

Mamba Mentality · Post #167 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:53 pm

The Golden State Warriors made another push to retain Jonathan Kuminga over the past several days, but the restricted free agent is continuing to decline their two-year, $45 million contract offer, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45859355/sources-jonathan-kuminga-declining-warriors-offer-terms

God Squad · Post #168 » by **God Squad** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:59 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:
The Golden State Warriors made another push to retain Jonathan Kuminga over the past several days, but the restricted free agent is continuing to decline their two-year, $45 million contract offer, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45859355/sources-jonathan-kuminga-declining-warriors-offer-terms

The ship has sailed Warrior fans. They should pivot for a sign-and-trade, and it'll likely be with the Kings or Bulls.

Mamba Mentality · Post #169 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:37 pm

God Squad wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
The Golden State Warriors made another push to retain Jonathan Kuminga over the past several days, but the restricted free agent is continuing to decline their two-year, $45 million contract offer, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45859355/sources-jonathan-kuminga-declining-warriors-offer-terms

The ship has sailed Warrior fans. They should pivot for a sign-and-trade, and it'll likely be with the Kings or Bulls.

Shams said that the Warriors plan on cutting off sign and trade conversations entirely.

QO seems to be the move for Kuminga, play out next season, and then become a free agent the following year where you'll have all the leverage and can choose where you want to play.

-Spyda- · Post #170 » by **-Spyda-** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:54 pm

So the Warriors going to lose Kuminga for nothing?
Suns offered him 4yr 90m

xdrta+ · Post #171 » by **xdrta+** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:58 pm

-Spyda- wrote:So the Warriors going to lose Kuminga for nothing?
Suns offered him 4yr 90m

Really? How did they do that?

-Spyda- · Post #172 » by **-Spyda-** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:05 pm

xdrta+ wrote:
-Spyda- wrote:So the Warriors going to lose Kuminga for nothing?
Suns offered him 4yr 90m

Really? How did they do that?

Read on Twitter

xdrta+ · Post #173 » by **xdrta+** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:12 pm

-Spyda- wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
-Spyda- wrote:So the Warriors going to lose Kuminga for nothing?
Suns offered him 4yr 90m

Really? How did they do that?

Read on Twitter

But how did they do it. He's an RFA, did they tender him an offer sheet? That's the only way to make him an offer.

Mamba Mentality · Post #174 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:13 pm

-Spyda- wrote:So the Warriors going to lose Kuminga for nothing?
Suns offered him 4yr 90m

I think the Warriors plan is to have an empty cap sheet post Steph that's why they're hesitant to take on any contracts past this season.

-Spyda- · Post #175 » by **-Spyda-** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:13 pm

Read on Twitter

cpower · Post #176 » by **cpower** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:20 pm

I fking love it. It now comes down to 1. Suns Kings bent down and give us what we need or 2. Kuminga takes QA and sits out for the season.

Is his agent his dad or something? He is now facing the risk being out of the league without a serious paycheck lol

Mamba Mentality · Post #177 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:23 pm

cpower wrote:I fking love it. It now comes down to 1. Suns Kings bent down and give us what we need or 2. Kuminga takes QA and sits out for the season.

Is his agent his dad or something? He is now facing the risk being out of the league without a serious paycheck lol

Idk how you could endorse this, feels like such a bad look for the Warriors from an optics standpoint. Post Curry era isn't going to be pretty.

cpower · Post #178 » by **cpower** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:25 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:
cpower wrote:I fking love it. It now comes down to 1. Suns Kings bent down and give us what we need or 2. Kuminga takes QA and sits out for the season.

Is his agent his dad or something? He is now facing the risk being out of the league without a serious paycheck lol

Idk how you could endorse this, feels like such a bad look for the Warriors from an optics standpoint. Post Curry era isn't going to be pretty.

I am sure he is. Warriors are better without kuminga. And if we can get any value from that would be a plus

Mamba Mentality · Post #179 » by **Mamba Mentality** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:27 pm

cpower wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
cpower wrote:I fking love it. It now comes down to 1. Suns Kings bent down and give us what we need or 2. Kuminga takes QA and sits out for the season.

Is his agent his dad or something? He is now facing the risk being out of the league without a serious paycheck lol

Idk how you could endorse this, feels like such a bad look for the Warriors from an optics standpoint. Post Curry era isn't going to be pretty.

I am sure he is. Warriors are better without kuminga. And if we can get any value from that would be a plus

But you're not getting anything valuable in return...instead you're going to waste whatever is left of Curry, Butler, and Greens career with a roster consisting of what 9 guys, only half of which are actually playable. This is a massive L for the Warriors, they should have moved him a long time ago.

cpower · Post #180 » by **cpower** » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:31 pm

Mamba Mentality wrote:
cpower wrote:
Mamba Mentality wrote:
Idk how you could endorse this, feels like such a bad look for the Warriors from an optics standpoint. Post Curry era isn't going to be pretty.

I am sure he is. Warriors are better without kuminga. And if we can get any value from that would be a plus

But you're not getting anything valuable in return...instead you're going to waste whatever is left of Curry, Butler, and Greens career with a roster consisting of what 9 guys, only half of which are actually playable. This is a massive L for the Warriors.

That's on Joe Lacob and Bob Myers. Kuminga and Wiseman will continue to haunt them for many years to come.