Varsho/Moreno/Kirk Discussion Thread

[Randle McMurphy]

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If he can hit MLB pitching like this when he gets back I'll join the fan club with you

He has 8 HR in 24 MLB games this year, so he was?

[bluerap23]

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If he can hit MLB pitching like this when he gets back I'll join the fan club with you

He has 8 HR in 24 MLB games this year, so he was?

That is a small sample size but if repeatable would be 54 hr season, so yes, if he can do that I will join the fan club -even if he strikes out 1/3 x.

[brwnman]

Not even a top 3 OF on this team

[bluerap23]

any post-game Kirk update?

[Randle McMurphy]

any post-game Kirk update?

Being evaluated for a concussion. Would have had some kind of symptom to have been pulled. Hope nothing lingers because he’s their most irreplaceable player by a huge margin.

[s e n s i]

If he can hit MLB pitching like this when he gets back I'll join the fan club with you

He has 8 HR in 24 MLB games this year, so he was?

That is a small sample size but if repeatable would be 54 hr season, so yes, if he can do that I will join the fan club -even if he strikes out 1/3 x.

54 HR is quite the criteria to be a fan of a player

[Harry Palmer]

I actually like Varsho, he and Barger are probably my favourite current Jays, but I do worry that his type of production might be antithetical to how we are winning. The Jays have turned into the best OB team in the mlb and it’s mostly by virtue of constantly making ~ solid contact. That keeps the pressure on the opposing pitching and defence, it’s party to the Chain take on baseball offence, ie that your weakest link is ~ as impactful on your production as your strongest, and that as long as no one in the lineup is letting up the pressure, the defence and pitching will inevitably make more mistakes through ~ exhaustion, mental and to a lesser degree physical. So having a guy who swings and misses a TON and has trouble getting on base at a bench-player level, even though his power and defence make him an overall contributor, it might just be the wrong kind if it’s giving the other team enough of a ~ break that the overall pressure is relieved.

Not certain about this, and in a way this whole season has been so insane I’m not confident with my ability to assess how we’re doing what we’re doing, but my father was a big proponent on the Chain ~ approach and if accurate to our success we might not be able to afford Varsho’s obviously superior play overall because his glaring Achilles heel is the kind that’ll kill our momentum.

[Randle McMurphy]

I actually like Varsho, he and Barger are probably my favourite current Jays, but I do worry that his type of production might be antithetical to how we are winning. The Jays have turned into the best OB team in the mlb and it’s mostly by virtue of constantly making ~ solid contact. That keeps the pressure on the opposing pitching and defence, it’s party to the Chain take on baseball offence, ie that your weakest link is ~ as impactful on your production as your strongest, and that as long as no one in the lineup is letting up the pressure, the defence and pitching will inevitably make more mistakes through ~ exhaustion, mental and to a lesser degree physical. So having a guy who swings and misses a TON and has trouble getting on base at a bench-player level, even though his power and defence make him an overall contributor, it might just be the wrong kind if it’s giving the other team enough of a ~ break that the overall pressure is relieved.

Not certain about this, and in a way this whole season has been so insane I’m not confident with my ability to assess how we’re doing what we’re doing, but my father was a big proponent on the Chain ~ approach and if accurate to our success we might not be able to afford Varsho’s obviously superior play overall because his glaring Achilles heel is the kind that’ll kill our momentum.

Just wait until he catches a ball to win a game that nobody on the rest of the team can even get close to. It happens with him quite a bit.

And contact isn’t a sustainable form of success (even hard contact if hit on the ground can be problematic), power certainly is though. Nothing wrong with adding a guy or two who focuses on that; they’re going to need it come playoff time when you are facing pitchers like Skubal. Often times it is a swing or two that wins those games. In an ideal world, I’d be looking for a RHB with power too to add to this team.

[JCP11]

Not even a top 3 OF on this team

Serious?

[StopitLeo]

I actually like Varsho, he and Barger are probably my favourite current Jays, but I do worry that his type of production might be antithetical to how we are winning. The Jays have turned into the best OB team in the mlb and it’s mostly by virtue of constantly making ~ solid contact. That keeps the pressure on the opposing pitching and defence, it’s party to the Chain take on baseball offence, ie that your weakest link is ~ as impactful on your production as your strongest, and that as long as no one in the lineup is letting up the pressure, the defence and pitching will inevitably make more mistakes through ~ exhaustion, mental and to a lesser degree physical. So having a guy who swings and misses a TON and has trouble getting on base at a bench-player level, even though his power and defence make him an overall contributor, it might just be the wrong kind if it’s giving the other team enough of a ~ break that the overall pressure is relieved.

Not certain about this, and in a way this whole season has been so insane I’m not confident with my ability to assess how we’re doing what we’re doing, but my father was a big proponent on the Chain ~ approach and if accurate to our success we might not be able to afford Varsho’s obviously superior play overall because his glaring Achilles heel is the kind that’ll kill our momentum.

Just wait until he catches a ball to win a game that nobody on the rest of the team can even get close to. It happens with him quite a bit.

And contact isn’t a sustainable form of success (even hard contact if hit on the ground can be problematic), power certainly is though. Nothing wrong with adding a guy or two who focuses on that; they’re going to need it come playoff time when you are facing pitchers like Skubal. Often times it is a swing or two that wins those games. In an ideal world, I’d be looking for a RHB with power too to add to this team.

I can live with Varsho whiffing because of the protection his power will provide. Someone is going to benefit.

[brwnman]

I actually like Varsho, he and Barger are probably my favourite current Jays, but I do worry that his type of production might be antithetical to how we are winning. The Jays have turned into the best OB team in the mlb and it’s mostly by virtue of constantly making ~ solid contact. That keeps the pressure on the opposing pitching and defence, it’s party to the Chain take on baseball offence, ie that your weakest link is ~ as impactful on your production as your strongest, and that as long as no one in the lineup is letting up the pressure, the defence and pitching will inevitably make more mistakes through ~ exhaustion, mental and to a lesser degree physical. So having a guy who swings and misses a TON and has trouble getting on base at a bench-player level, even though his power and defence make him an overall contributor, it might just be the wrong kind if it’s giving the other team enough of a ~ break that the overall pressure is relieved.

Not certain about this, and in a way this whole season has been so insane I’m not confident with my ability to assess how we’re doing what we’re doing, but my father was a big proponent on the Chain ~ approach and if accurate to our success we might not be able to afford Varsho’s obviously superior play overall because his glaring Achilles heel is the kind that’ll kill our momentum.

Just wait until he catches a ball to win a game that nobody on the rest of the team can even get close to. It happens with him quite a bit.

And contact isn’t a sustainable form of success (even hard contact if hit on the ground can be problematic), power certainly is though. Nothing wrong with adding a guy or two who focuses on that; they’re going to need it come playoff time when you are facing pitchers like Skubal. Often times it is a swing or two that wins those games. In an ideal world, I’d be looking for a RHB with power too to add to this team.

I can live with Varsho whiffing because of the protection his power will provide. Someone is going to benefit.

Things likely no one has ever said seriously.

[brwnman]

Not even a top 3 OF on this team

Serious?

Very few serious things have been said in this thread.

[Randle McMurphy]

Jays look completely lost today without the best catcher in baseball. Hardly a surprise.