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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26 

Post#1021 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:39 pm

Hal14 wrote:"Our new shooting guard"

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D-white at PG, Simons at SG.

Remember, Joe announced publicly 2 summers ago that D-white was his starting PG..that was after Smart was traded but before we acquired Jrue.

Now, with Jrue gone and Tatum injured, we can slide D-white in as the full time starting PG..

JB at the 3, Tatum at the 4 when he comes back. Pritchard stays in the 6th man role he excelled at last season..



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Post#1022 » by 165bows » Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:50 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Hal14 wrote:"Our new shooting guard"

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D-white at PG, Simons at SG.

Remember, Joe announced publicly 2 summers ago that D-white was his starting PG..that was after Smart was traded but before we acquired Jrue.

Now, with Jrue gone and Tatum injured, we can slide D-white in as the full time starting PG..

JB at the 3, Tatum at the 4 when he comes back. Pritchard stays in the 6th man role he excelled at last season..



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No trade options available for him.

I was totally against it 2-3 years back but times have changed, kind of warmed up to him on this team for now.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26 

Post#1023 » by darrendaye » Mon Jul 28, 2025 3:53 pm

Simmons makes a stronger case if he embraces being a roll man.
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Post#1024 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:08 pm

darrendaye wrote:Simmons makes a stronger case if he embraces being a roll man.

Simmons makes a stronger case if he cared about NBA basketball.
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Post#1025 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:11 pm

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Post#1026 » by darrendaye » Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:13 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
darrendaye wrote:Simmons makes a stronger case if he embraces being a roll man.

Simmons makes a stronger case if he cared about NBA basketball.


Chicken or egg? :wink:
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Post#1027 » by darrendaye » Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:15 pm

Hal14 wrote:"Our new shooting guard"

Read on Twitter


D-white at PG, Simons at SG.

Remember, Joe announced publicly 2 summers ago that D-white was his starting PG..that was after Smart was traded but before we acquired Jrue.

Now, with Jrue gone and Tatum injured, we can slide D-white in as the full time starting PG..

JB at the 3, Tatum at the 4 when he comes back. Pritchard stays in the 6th man role he excelled at last season..


I was going to play the semantics game and flip this around, but won't go there lol.

What I will say is I remain firmly in the start Pritchard/Simons 6th man camp.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26 

Post#1028 » by canman1971 » Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:21 pm

darrendaye wrote:Simmons makes a stronger case if he embraces being a roll man.

He'd make the case if he became Marty McFly got in his Delorean with good ole' Doc (Not Rivers) and went back to a time where maybe he actually gave a sh** about just living up to the responsibilities of signing a contract. Or a time when he knew after dump time, you wipe well, wash your hands well, and make sure the damn seat is put down. And that if he needed things for simplified.
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Post#1029 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:24 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
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So Tillman and cash to ?
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Post#1030 » by 165bows » Mon Jul 28, 2025 4:49 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
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So Tillman and cash to ?

Had no idea that they could send that much $ at this point. Used to be half that not long ago, but I guess the money is worth about the same so...
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Post#1031 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Jul 28, 2025 5:08 pm

The new trade rules are so complicated, I don't understand every nook and cranny. However, it seems if we include cash in a trade this will cap us at the 2nd apron line and we can't do any trades that push payroll over that line, even temporarily.

A team becomes hard-capped at the second tax apron ($207,824,000) if it makes any of the following moves:

Uses any portion of the mid-level exception to sign a player to a contract.
Aggregates two or more players in a trade for salary-matching purposes.
Sends out cash in a trade.
Sends out a player via sign-and-trade and uses that player’s outgoing salary to take back a contract (either in the same transaction or in a subsequent transaction via the resulting trade exception).

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/07/nba-teams-with-hard-caps-for-2025-26.html


So I am doubting Brad will include cash as an incentive for another team to take Tillman if it means we're capped at the 2nd apron.


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Celts17Pride wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
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So Tillman and cash to ?

Had no idea that they could send that much $ at this point. Used to be half that not long ago, but I guess the money is worth about the same so...
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Post#1032 » by dortmunder » Mon Jul 28, 2025 5:37 pm

Can we now cut walsh so we get another free roster spot?
In order we sign simmons and then trade tillman + hauser for a big.
Can we do that?
That way we would have 13 players, tatum, simmons and a big included.
Bassey yet?
Another pg for the minimum?
Horford?
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Post#1033 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Mon Jul 28, 2025 5:42 pm

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Post#1034 » by Celts17Pride » Mon Jul 28, 2025 5:47 pm

dortmunder wrote:Can we now cut walsh so we get another free roster spot?
In order we sign simmons and then trade tillman + hauser for a big.
Can we do that?
That way we would have 13 players, tatum, simmons and a big included.
Bassey yet?
Another pg for the minimum?
Horford?

So many questions, so few answers.
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Post#1035 » by darrendaye » Mon Jul 28, 2025 5:55 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:The new trade rules are so complicated, I don't understand every nook and cranny. However, it seems if we include cash in a trade this will cap us at the 2nd apron line and we can't do any trades that push payroll over that line, even temporarily.

A team becomes hard-capped at the second tax apron ($207,824,000) if it makes any of the following moves:

Uses any portion of the mid-level exception to sign a player to a contract.
Aggregates two or more players in a trade for salary-matching purposes.
Sends out cash in a trade.
Sends out a player via sign-and-trade and uses that player’s outgoing salary to take back a contract (either in the same transaction or in a subsequent transaction via the resulting trade exception).

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/07/nba-teams-with-hard-caps-for-2025-26.html


So I am doubting Brad will include cash as an incentive for another team to take Tillman if it means we're capped at the 2nd apron.


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Celts17Pride wrote:So Tillman and cash to ?

Had no idea that they could send that much $ at this point. Used to be half that not long ago, but I guess the money is worth about the same so...


Would only make sense if they wanted to shut the door on exceeding the 2nd apron again. It's possible because they would bump into a hard cap situation anyway in other roster shuffle scenarios.
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Post#1036 » by redslastlaugh » Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:04 pm

darrendaye wrote:Would only make sense if they wanted to shut the door on exceeding the 2nd apron again. It's possible because they would bump into a hard cap situation anyway in other roster shuffle scenarios.


Yea, but without a legit center on the roster, and with the $22 million Porzingis-Niang trade exception, you have to keep the possibilities open. Jarrett Allen, Jakob Poeltl, Daniel Gafford, etc are centers in the $15-20 million salary range that we could theoretically get just by sending picks out and taking the player back via TPE ... but we couldn't do it if we're capped at the 2nd apron... at least, how I understand the new rules

edit: looking at this article, I don't even think I'm right that we would be able to use our traded player exception (TPE), the way I described ... lol, so who knows at this point with this new CBA
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Post#1037 » by 2Mas » Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:17 pm

darrendaye wrote:Simmons makes a stronger case if he embraces being a roll man.

A roll man?

He's afraid to walk under the 3pt line. It feels weird to watch him catch a pass & look at the rim atp. He's petrified to do anything close to the hoop. & he also can't shoot, so what good is his offense?
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Post#1038 » by darrendaye » Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:23 pm

2Mas wrote:
darrendaye wrote:Simmons makes a stronger case if he embraces being a roll man.

A roll man?

He's afraid to walk under the 3pt line. It feels weird to watch him catch a pass & look at the rim atp. He's petrified to do anything close to the hoop. & he also can't shoot, so what good is his offense?


Would take a dedication to make that change is my point. Screen setter would be his primary offensive role, his usage related to his skillsets would be limited but still utilized. Fit is there, likelihood is not.
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Post#1039 » by Hal14 » Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:31 pm

2Mas wrote:
darrendaye wrote:Simmons makes a stronger case if he embraces being a roll man.

A roll man?

He's afraid to walk under the 3pt line. It feels weird to watch him catch a pass & look at the rim atp. He's petrified to do anything close to the hoop. so what good is his offense?

Not really..he goes inside the 3 pt line plenty in this short clip from last season..

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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26 

Post#1040 » by CelticFaninLBC » Mon Jul 28, 2025 6:42 pm

Hal14 wrote:
2Mas wrote:
darrendaye wrote:Simmons makes a stronger case if he embraces being a roll man.

A roll man?

He's afraid to walk under the 3pt line. It feels weird to watch him catch a pass & look at the rim atp. He's petrified to do anything close to the hoop. so what good is his offense?

Not really..

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Did he play center with the Clippers?

If Boston signs him, I suspect he'll be hurt half the time, just like Porzingis. At least they won't be paying him anything close $30 million for the year, though.

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