Josh Giddey Thread 2.0

[Indomitable]

the athletic did a poll of front office personnel who basically all pegged his value between $20-25m AAV, and the only two responses outside of that range came in even lower

The Athletic recently polled 16 people who work in NBA front offices (including no one from Giddey’s incumbent Chicago Bulls), asking what they would deem a “fair” contract for [Giddey.] ...

Fourteen of the 16 participants proposed an average annual salary between $20 million and $25 million. (His mean average yearly value in the poll came to $22.3 million a year.) One executive pinned him as an $18 million player. Another, a front-office staffer who admitted he would be far lower than the consensus because he wasn’t a fan of Giddey’s game, suggested $50 million over four years, $12.5 million a year.

4y/$90m seems about right to me

I will be surprised if Giddey goes lower than 25M.

Great info though. Big sample size helps with bias but we still can’t weigh out motives in their number.

You are worth what you can negotiate. Giddey is impotent.

He is not highly respected and lack athletic upside.

[Muzbar]

Saw this on reddit.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6519192/2025/07/28/josh-giddey-nba-free-agency-bulls/

The Athletic recently polled 16 people who work in NBA front offices (including no one from Giddey’s incumbent Chicago Bulls), asking what they would deem a “fair” contract for each member of the restricted quartet: Giddey, Jonathan Kuminga, Quentin Grimes and Cam Thomas. They were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor.

Fourteen of the 16 participants proposed an average annual salary between $20 million and $25 million. (His mean average yearly value in the poll came to $22.3 million a year.) One executive pinned him as an $18 million player. Another, a front-office staffer who admitted he would be far lower than the consensus because he wasn’t a fan of Giddey’s game, suggested $50 million over four years, $12.5 million a year — less than the midlevel exception for a player who put up 14.6 points, 8.1 rebounds and 7.2 assists in 2024-25 and who averaged nearly a 20-point triple-double over his final 19 games.

It seems many around the league seem to agree on the mid to low 20s range point.

[Muzbar]

I agree. He could take the qualifying offer, but why do that? Take a short deal with a player option, get generational wealth and get another contract while he's still in his 20s.

Yeah, I could definitely see a 2+1 being done for around 24m per.

Whilst I really like Giddey, I'm sceptical of building 'around him', I still think the Bulls should try and bottom out this season and try and get a high pick in this draft. It's meant to be VERY good.

I agree with you, but don't think the Bulls will bottom out. AK has basically said that he never wants to do that and his time here has proven that. Instead I could see the team fighting for the play-in or first round.

It's frustrating because the draft is how they can find top level talent. Even a team like OKC spent two years tanking when they already had SGA. It's how they got Jalen Williams and Chet (and ultimately a championship).

Bottoming out would mean an investment in the teams future, which is what the Bulls should be thinking about.

Giddey at 24 million would be a good deal. After that...what about Coby? Let him play the season out and go from there? Or sign him to an extension soon?

Oh I know the Bulls won't bottom out, I still think they should though, even for just this season. On the plus side, the Bulls may end up with 2 picks in this draft if Portland ball out from the beginning (unlikely).

Regarding Coby, to my understanding the Bulls are very limited in what they can offer Coby in an extension (due to his last contract being rather small) and therefore in order for him to get big money he's best to wait until the offseason, but he'll be an UFA, so the Bulls may lose him if they aren't too careful.

[Jcool0]

Saw this on reddit.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6519192/2025/07/28/josh-giddey-nba-free-agency-bulls/

The Athletic recently polled 16 people who work in NBA front offices (including no one from Giddey’s incumbent Chicago Bulls), asking what they would deem a “fair” contract for each member of the restricted quartet: Giddey, Jonathan Kuminga, Quentin Grimes and Cam Thomas. They were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor.

Fourteen of the 16 participants proposed an average annual salary between $20 million and $25 million. (His mean average yearly value in the poll came to $22.3 million a year.) One executive pinned him as an $18 million player. Another, a front-office staffer who admitted he would be far lower than the consensus because he wasn’t a fan of Giddey’s game, suggested $50 million over four years, $12.5 million a year — less than the midlevel exception for a player who put up 14.6 points, 8.1 rebounds and 7.2 assists in 2024-25 and who averaged nearly a 20-point triple-double over his final 19 games.

It seems many around the league seem to agree on the mid to low 20s range point.

Work in NBA front offices... So could be the summer intern.

[jnrjr79]

Saw this on reddit.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6519192/2025/07/28/josh-giddey-nba-free-agency-bulls/

The Athletic recently polled 16 people who work in NBA front offices (including no one from Giddey’s incumbent Chicago Bulls), asking what they would deem a “fair” contract for each member of the restricted quartet: Giddey, Jonathan Kuminga, Quentin Grimes and Cam Thomas. They were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor.

Fourteen of the 16 participants proposed an average annual salary between $20 million and $25 million. (His mean average yearly value in the poll came to $22.3 million a year.) One executive pinned him as an $18 million player. Another, a front-office staffer who admitted he would be far lower than the consensus because he wasn’t a fan of Giddey’s game, suggested $50 million over four years, $12.5 million a year — less than the midlevel exception for a player who put up 14.6 points, 8.1 rebounds and 7.2 assists in 2024-25 and who averaged nearly a 20-point triple-double over his final 19 games.

It seems many around the league seem to agree on the mid to low 20s range point.

Work in NBA front offices... So could be the summer intern.

16 summer interns?

[HomoSapien]

Lots of bad front offices personnels out there. We have the best of the worst ourselves.

[MrSparkle]

Dragging this out to save $5M per year is classic Bulls goofiness.

[jnrjr79]

Dragging this out to save $5M per year is classic Bulls goofiness.

It’s the opposite of classic Bulls goofiness. Classic Bulls goofiness would be just handing out a generous contract and not making the player find an offer on the market.

[MrSparkle]

Dragging this out to save $5M per year is classic Bulls goofiness.

It’s the opposite of classic Bulls goofiness. Classic Bulls goofiness would be just handing out a generous contract and not making the player find an offer on the market.

Eh- wrong guy to do it with imo. Wouldn’t be the first time they hard-balled the wrong player... Lauri comes to mind.

[rosenthall]

Dragging this out to save $5M per year is classic Bulls goofiness.

It’s the opposite of classic Bulls goofiness. Classic Bulls goofiness would be just handing out a generous contract and not making the player find an offer on the market.

Eh- wrong guy to do it with imo. Wouldn’t be the first time they hard-balled the wrong player... Lauri comes to mind.

I think this is kind of it. We rolled out the red carpet for Vuc and Pat, ffs. Just looks awful in hindsight. But our 22 yo that just put up all-nba numbers to end the year is being dragged through the coals.

I still favor the process, but I hope they don't walk too fine a line. Losing Giddey is a step backward if we can sign him for 30m or less.

[Senor Chang]

Dragging this out to save $5M per year is classic Bulls goofiness.

It’s the opposite of classic Bulls goofiness. Classic Bulls goofiness would be just handing out a generous contract and not making the player find an offer on the market.

But what was the bigger blunder? Overpaying for zach and pwil or letting Lauri go?


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[MisterRoy]

Saw this on reddit.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6519192/2025/07/28/josh-giddey-nba-free-agency-bulls/

The Athletic recently polled 16 people who work in NBA front offices (including no one from Giddey’s incumbent Chicago Bulls), asking what they would deem a “fair” contract for each member of the restricted quartet: Giddey, Jonathan Kuminga, Quentin Grimes and Cam Thomas. They were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor.

Fourteen of the 16 participants proposed an average annual salary between $20 million and $25 million. (His mean average yearly value in the poll came to $22.3 million a year.) One executive pinned him as an $18 million player. Another, a front-office staffer who admitted he would be far lower than the consensus because he wasn’t a fan of Giddey’s game, suggested $50 million over four years, $12.5 million a year — less than the midlevel exception for a player who put up 14.6 points, 8.1 rebounds and 7.2 assists in 2024-25 and who averaged nearly a 20-point triple-double over his final 19 games.

It seems many around the league seem to agree on the mid to low 20s range point.

Wow, who did AKME or Jerry pay to print this?

[Chi town]

Lots of bad front offices personnels out there. We have the best of the worst ourselves.

So well said.

[GoBlue72391]

Dragging this out to save $5M per year is classic Bulls goofiness.

It’s the opposite of classic Bulls goofiness. Classic Bulls goofiness would be just handing out a generous contract and not making the player find an offer on the market.

AKME are handling this negotiation exactly the way they should, so I'm pretty surprised there's a notable group who are so against it.

[greenwing]

Dragging this out to save $5M per year is classic Bulls goofiness.

It’s the opposite of classic Bulls goofiness. Classic Bulls goofiness would be just handing out a generous contract and not making the player find an offer on the market.

AKME are handling this negotiation exactly the way they should, so I'm pretty surprised there's a notable group who are so against it.

Agree. There’s no reason for them to bet against themselves. Let the process play itself out.

[pipfan]

I like Giddey and I want us to resign him. But, I'm wondering long term if it's not best to look for a sign-and-trade. I know these are very difficult to manage with RFA's, but building around Noa/Matas doesn't sound too bad-long term

I still think we'll wrap it up and Giddey will be back, at least for 3 years.

[darbstar]

Dragging this out to save $5M per year is classic Bulls goofiness.

It’s the opposite of classic Bulls goofiness. Classic Bulls goofiness would be just handing out a generous contract and not making the player find an offer on the market.

But what was the bigger blunder? Overpaying for zach and pwil or letting Lauri go?


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Letting Lauri go was the bigger blunder because at least they gave the other 2 a chance

[dougthonus]

Saw this on reddit.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6519192/2025/07/28/josh-giddey-nba-free-agency-bulls/

The Athletic recently polled 16 people who work in NBA front offices (including no one from Giddey’s incumbent Chicago Bulls), asking what they would deem a “fair” contract for each member of the restricted quartet: Giddey, Jonathan Kuminga, Quentin Grimes and Cam Thomas. They were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor.

Fourteen of the 16 participants proposed an average annual salary between $20 million and $25 million. (His mean average yearly value in the poll came to $22.3 million a year.) One executive pinned him as an $18 million player. Another, a front-office staffer who admitted he would be far lower than the consensus because he wasn’t a fan of Giddey’s game, suggested $50 million over four years, $12.5 million a year — less than the midlevel exception for a player who put up 14.6 points, 8.1 rebounds and 7.2 assists in 2024-25 and who averaged nearly a 20-point triple-double over his final 19 games.

It seems many around the league seem to agree on the mid to low 20s range point.

Worth noting that your market value is set by the high bidder not the average bidder, so if we assume all these numbers are real, you could assume his market value is about 25M AAV.

[Evil_Headband]

Saw this on reddit.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6519192/2025/07/28/josh-giddey-nba-free-agency-bulls/

The Athletic recently polled 16 people who work in NBA front offices (including no one from Giddey’s incumbent Chicago Bulls), asking what they would deem a “fair” contract for each member of the restricted quartet: Giddey, Jonathan Kuminga, Quentin Grimes and Cam Thomas. They were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor.

Fourteen of the 16 participants proposed an average annual salary between $20 million and $25 million. (His mean average yearly value in the poll came to $22.3 million a year.) One executive pinned him as an $18 million player. Another, a front-office staffer who admitted he would be far lower than the consensus because he wasn’t a fan of Giddey’s game, suggested $50 million over four years, $12.5 million a year — less than the midlevel exception for a player who put up 14.6 points, 8.1 rebounds and 7.2 assists in 2024-25 and who averaged nearly a 20-point triple-double over his final 19 games.

It seems many around the league seem to agree on the mid to low 20s range point.

Worth noting that your market value is set by the high bidder not the average bidder, so if we assume all these numbers are real, you could assume his market value is about 25M AAV.

Although the question posed was what would be "fair". If the highest value given was by a team that would have no interest in Giddey due to a wide range of possible reasons (already having a primary ball handler that they prefer, luxury tax concerns, etc.), I don't think we should count that as a "bidder".

[dougthonus]

Although the question posed was what would be "fair". If the highest value given was by a team that would have no interest in Giddey due to a wide range of possible reasons (already having a primary ball handler that they prefer, luxury tax concerns, etc.), I don't think we should count that as a "bidder".

Yeah, it is hard to know the nuance of each team and how the question was asked too. Plus teams with money frequently finding themselves doing this they probably don't want to do or paying more than fair or else losing the player.