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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1021 » by ArthurVandelay » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:51 am

NinjaBro wrote:Rudy Gay 2.0 :lol:


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Post#1022 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:24 pm

I hated Rudy Gay because he was such a blackhole on offense. In TOR he had 2.2 AST to 3.3 TO which is hilariously bad.

Ingram, like Siakam, developed himself into a good playmaker, who generally ends up in the 5-6 assist range every year.

The Raps have lacked a guy who you could dump the ball to late in the shotclock, who can create something out of nothing. But he's also able to work within a functional offense without messing up the flow.
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Post#1023 » by Westside Gunn » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:51 pm

Gay became what he became in Toronto is because management, coaching staff legitimately thought he would break out as the 1st option swingman for the first time in his career. Turns out he was better as a robin than batman. But it wasn't a wrong move at that time. We were all excited because we didn't have that type of player since Vince Carter. And legitmately didn't have a swingman until Kawhi Leonard because we always drafted PFs.



Ingram's case is kind of the same but different, he's on a stacked team which won't allow him to have the free rein like Gay did. You have Scottie Barnes, RJ, Quick, and potentially Dick to make up for that potential Gay black hole and to keep things in check.

The only worry I have are injuries - I think he will be a good system player
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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1024 » by tsherkin » Fri Jul 11, 2025 12:58 pm

Westside Gunn wrote:Ingram's case is kind of the same but different, he's on a stacked team which won't allow him to have the free rein like Gay did. You have Scottie Barnes, RJ, Quick, and potentially Dick to make up for that potential Gay black hole and to keep things in check.


I mean, we're gonna give BI free reign. He's the best offensive player on the team by a long shot, and he's a far better passer than Gay ever was, and is probably the best playmaker on the team right now.
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Post#1025 » by StopitLeo » Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:10 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:I hated Rudy Gay because he was such a blackhole on offense. In TOR he had 2.2 AST to 3.3 TO which is hilariously bad.

Ingram, like Siakam, developed himself into a good playmaker, who generally ends up in the 5-6 assist range every year.

The Raps have lacked a guy who you could dump the ball to late in the shotclock, who can create something out of nothing. But he's also able to work within a functional offense without messing up the flow.


I think Ingram is a higher IQ player than Gay was and clearly a better playmaker. Ingram has a career 1.7 to 1 assist-to-turnover ratio with >2 to 1 in some seasons. Gay's career assist-to-turnover ratio was 1 to 1 with multiple seasons worse than 1:1.

Ingram is the most skilled offensive player we've had next to Kawhi. Like Kawhi he gives you a feeling of confidence that when you need a bucket you can get one (or at least a good shot). That's a big thing for a team psyche IMO.

Honestly, I think NOP was a pretty bad fit with Zion where they were forced into a 1A/1B situation on offense. Ingram has a clear role in Toronto as the primary scoring option and he's going to be playing with multiple high IQ players. Could be a really fun season.
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Post#1026 » by rapsincr » Fri Jul 11, 2025 5:21 pm

officially cleared for contact, welcome to the raps BI!!!
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Post#1029 » by Wutang_CMB » Sat Jul 12, 2025 9:34 pm

Really rooting for him. I hope theres more to uncover. If anyone can its darko. But staying healthy is pri #1

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Post#1030 » by bluerap23 » Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:08 pm

He's a real one. Hoping they give him the Kawhi treatment with rest. Plan for 60 games. Be healthy for playoffs.
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Post#1032 » by ArthurVandelay » Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:45 pm

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Post#1033 » by tsherkin » Mon Jul 14, 2025 1:55 pm

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Well, we'll see how this goes. I'm really pulling for him to be healthy for us. He's gonna be fun to watch when he's on the court.
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Post#1035 » by MEDIC » Tue Jul 29, 2025 3:24 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:I hated Rudy Gay because he was such a blackhole on offense. In TOR he had 2.2 AST to 3.3 TO which is hilariously bad.

Ingram, like Siakam, developed himself into a good playmaker, who generally ends up in the 5-6 assist range every year.

The Raps have lacked a guy who you could dump the ball to late in the shotclock, who can create something out of nothing. But he's also able to work within a functional offense without messing up the flow.


Bosh was the same as Rudy Gay (black hole)........except Bosh could actually score efficiently. Efficient or not......we were never going to win anything with Bosh playing that way.

Having your go-to guy be a willing playmaker & a good passer is a must. Ingram is probably a better playmaker/ passer than Scottie. That's how good he is.
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Post#1036 » by Fairview4Life » Tue Jul 29, 2025 3:27 pm

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Re: Official Brandon Ingram Thread 

Post#1037 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 5:07 pm

MEDIC wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:I hated Rudy Gay because he was such a blackhole on offense. In TOR he had 2.2 AST to 3.3 TO which is hilariously bad.

Ingram, like Siakam, developed himself into a good playmaker, who generally ends up in the 5-6 assist range every year.

The Raps have lacked a guy who you could dump the ball to late in the shotclock, who can create something out of nothing. But he's also able to work within a functional offense without messing up the flow.


Bosh was the same as Rudy Gay (black hole)........except Bosh could actually score efficiently. Efficient or not......we were never going to win anything with Bosh playing that way.

Having your go-to guy be a willing playmaker & a good passer is a must. Ingram is probably a better playmaker/ passer than Scottie. That's how good he is.


He's not imo, but he's still good nonetheless
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Post#1038 » by tsherkin » Tue Jul 29, 2025 5:17 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:He's not imo, but he's still good nonetheless


He's more mobile, he's more patient, he draws a D in more effectively. I don't really see Scottie do anything which sets him apart from Ingram in that regard.
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Post#1039 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:01 pm

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DreamTeam09 wrote:He's not imo, but he's still good nonetheless


He's more mobile, he's more patient, he draws a D in more effectively. I don't really see Scottie do anything which sets him apart from Ingram in that regard.


Scottie can initiate an offense, BI can make the right play because scorers attract attention & he's not selfish. Scottie is by far the better lead team offense initiator
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Post#1040 » by tsherkin » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:04 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:Scottie can initiate an offense, BI can make the right play because scorers attract attention & he's not selfish. Scottie is by far the better lead team offense initiator


I don't really see that. Scottie doesn't do anything particularly impressive to start the offense. He has the ability to take a screen and then go for his middie, but basically, he's doing the same thing at a worse level: attacking with poor offense and then passing out, or taking it up in transition. BI does all of the same stuff.

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