Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[Archx]

No bro, they traded Luka so that means the Mavs suck. They have no depth and have all of the worst players in the world.

Yeah, I'm honestly sick and tired of this mood and attitude within the fanbase.
It's now time to pick a choice:
1) move on, just like Luka did, and jump on the LAL bandwagon;
2) stay a Mavs fan, cheer for these players (who did nothing wrong to deserve to play for a toxic fanbase) and objectively judge FO's moves without any bias.

I mean just look at this garbage posted on the most pathetic place on the internet today, Mavs Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1mb4rwt/he_was_supposed_to_have_a_statue/

What's the point in bringing in Flagg on that kind of video?
All the other 29 fanbases would have been thrilled and super excited about adding Cooper on their team, but not this one, we rather throw Flagg under the bus after 1 SL game because some so-called Mavs fans decided that nothing good can't happen to this franchise anymore, I guess they love to feel miserable.

I think you're severely overreacting. Mavs fanbase is unhappy with Nico because this team would have a top3 MVP candidate in his prime and perfect players built around him. Nico decided to postpone that for the next like 5 or more years. I didn't see a single post around the internet that said "Don't pick Flagg we hate him" or something like that.

You have to understand that until Nico is with Mavs, fans will be pissed off. You see trucks around Dallas having their license plates named "Fire Nico" or murals with the same writing on them. All in all, getting Flagg was some kind of a miracle, if we can call it like that, but at the end of the day Nico has done an unthinkable thing to this team.

Go tell Dirk to stop pouting and get back to Mavs games if you dare ... Yeah, it's that bad, but has nothing to do with the players or Flagg himself. And this is why some posters here still can't understand why 99% of Mavs fanbase is unhappy, it's not the team, it's the people in the background.

[Mavrelous]

I'm nowhere near knowledgeable or aware enough to tell fans how to fan, I personally find the sight of Nico Harrison revolting, I, as a normal human being who's appalled by seeing injustice in general and a Mavs fan, was disgusted not by the trade itself, but by every manner the Dallas Maverick organization, ownership and FO, handled it, from the disgraceful press conference in Celveland, to smearing Luka on the way out, antagonizing fans who were shocked by the trade, the Soviet like crack down on voicing displeasure, the Orwellian erasing of his name from the arena, to hiding for months until the exit interviews.
I despise insulting my intelligence by claiming Cooper Flagg was part of their vision.
I devoured every piece of information, and still saw nothing, absolutely nothing, that justifies the trade, let alone what they did afterwards, I wish Nico Harrison and Patrick Dumont to go to the dust bin of history where they belong.
As for the players, I will never be able to root for Anthony Davis, it's not his fault, but I disliked him before and dislike him even more now, but I will root for everyone else on the team, fully aware it wasn't their fault, and many of them were screwed by it even more than us fans, namely PJ and DLive.

[arkuo]

I'm nowhere near knowledgeable or aware enough to tell fans how to fan, I personally find the sight of Nico Harrison revolting, I, as a normal human being who's appalled by seeing injustice in general and a Mavs fan, was disgusted not by the trade itself, but by every manner the Dallas Maverick organization, ownership and FO, handled it, from the disgraceful press conference in Celveland, to smearing Luka on the way out, antagonizing fans who were shocked by the trade, the Orwellian erasin of his name from the arena, to hiding for months until the exit interviews.
I despise insulting my intelegence by making Cooper Flagg part of their vision.
I devoured every piece of information, and still saw nothing, absolutely that justifies the trade, let alone what they did afterwards, I wish Nico Harrison and Patrick Dumont to go to the dust bin of history where they belong.
As for the players, I will never be able to root for Anthony Davis, it's not his fault, but I disliked him before and dislike him even more now, but I will root for everyone else on the team, fully aware it wasn't their fault, and many of them were screwed by it even more than us fans, namely PJ and DLive.

I think understanding that there are 2 sides of every coin solves some things. There are people who are ok with the trade, there are people who are against it and people just in between. It's not black or white, it just depends on what echo chamber and what information one is consuming right now. Similar to politics, if your algorithm is all red, then you'll be on that side. Same goes with the blue side. And now there's a clash between groups who have complained each day for months now and another group who just wants to watch Flagg.

Right now, the Mavs board is divided into 2. A group who wants to stay, and the other group who are already Lakers fans but just don't know it yet. If someone hates Nico through and through, and still decides to stay and support the product that Nico puts out. Then it's just masochism at this point.

[Mavrelous]

I think understanding that there are 2 sides of every coin solves some things. There are people who are ok with the trade, there are people who are against it and people just in between. It's not black or white, it just depends on what echo chamber and what information one is consuming right now. Similar to politics, if your algorithm is all red, then you'll be on that side. Same goes with the blue side. And now there's a clash between groups who have complained each day for months now and another group who just wants to watch Flagg.

Right now, the Mavs board is divided into 2. A group who wants to stay, and the other group who are already Lakers fans but just don't know it yet. If someone hates Nico through and through, and still decides to stay and support the product that Nico puts out. Then it's just masochism at this point.

I want to be clear, I have 0 problems with people who wanted the trade, or people who didn't like Luka, I know Luka is a polarizing figure and can be a chore to watch sometimes with his whining and body language.
What I will never understand is justifying Nico Harrison, even if he saw he needed to trade Luka, the way he came around to do it, the return he got and the way he handled it afterwards were tragic.

[Archx]

What I will never understand is justifying Nico Harrison, even if he saw he needed to trade Luka, the way he came around to do it, the return he got and the way he handled it afterwards were tragic.

I'm even more mad how he fired Casey Smith and got rid of all people Dirk liked. That's even more incredible. How a die hard Mavs fan can still defend this piece of s*** is beyond me.

[Mavrelous]

What I will never understand is justifying Nico Harrison, even if he saw he needed to trade Luka, the way he came around to do it, the return he got and the way he handled it afterwards were tragic.

I'm even more mad how he fired Casey Smith and got rid of all people Dirk liked. That's even more incredible. How a die hard Mavs fan can still defend this piece of s*** is beyond me.

That is another great point I failed to mention, the treatment of Dirk in all of this was even worse, it's one thing to fire some like Casey Smith, a strong figure and key member of this org, but to hire total clowns instead of him, who fight in front of the players and risk their health is just another example of the absolute **** show Nico Harrison is.

[41Dirk41]

I'm nowhere near knowledgeable or aware enough to tell fans how to fan, I personally find the sight of Nico Harrison revolting, I, as a normal human being who's appalled by seeing injustice in general and a Mavs fan, was disgusted not by the trade itself, but by every manner the Dallas Maverick organization, ownership and FO, handled it, from the disgraceful press conference in Celveland, to smearing Luka on the way out, antagonizing fans who were shocked by the trade, the Soviet like crack down on voicing displeasure, the Orwellian erasing of his name from the arena, to hiding for months until the exit interviews.
I despise insulting my intelligence by claiming Cooper Flagg was part of their vision.
I devoured every piece of information, and still saw nothing, absolutely nothing, that justifies the trade, let alone what they did afterwards, I wish Nico Harrison and Patrick Dumont to go to the dust bin of history where they belong.
As for the players, I will never be able to root for Anthony Davis, it's not his fault, but I disliked him before and dislike him even more now, but I will root for everyone else on the team, fully aware it wasn't their fault, and many of them were screwed by it even more than us fans, namely PJ and DLive.

Thanks Mod. It's my point too (but i think Flagg was a part of the trade or at least the fix by Silver).

[arkuo]

I think understanding that there are 2 sides of every coin solves some things. There are people who are ok with the trade, there are people who are against it and people just in between. It's not black or white, it just depends on what echo chamber and what information one is consuming right now. Similar to politics, if your algorithm is all red, then you'll be on that side. Same goes with the blue side. And now there's a clash between groups who have complained each day for months now and another group who just wants to watch Flagg.

Right now, the Mavs board is divided into 2. A group who wants to stay, and the other group who are already Lakers fans but just don't know it yet. If someone hates Nico through and through, and still decides to stay and support the product that Nico puts out. Then it's just masochism at this point.

I want to be clear, I have 0 problems with people who wanted the trade, or people who didn't like Luka, I know Luka is a polarizing figure and can be a chore to watch sometimes with his whining and body language.
What I will never understand is justifying Nico Harrison, even if he saw he needed to trade Luka, the way he came around to do it, the return he got and the way he handled it afterwards were tragic.

I don't think a lot of people can justify Nico Harrison. There are just people who want to move on quietly and people who make a fuss out of it every day since the trade happened. People move on in different paces and that's okay. There are just closet Lakers on board who need to move on with the player and not force things with Nico. It's like keeping tabs on your ex when she's decided to move on already. That gets you a restraining order in some states. If the product is bad as it is, then zero support should be given. Just move on with the Lakers or any other team with a better product. Plain and simple. Complaining online like Nico reads each comment here is what's keeping the mood down. And if sharing Luka news here and there is counted as supporting former Mavs players, then share Maxi Kleber news too. Otherwise it's just Luka fans hanging around another team's board waiting to pounce on Nico when it's not Nico that's here. Some fans are barking up the wrong tree. Nico is the enemy, not the fans who chose ro stay on.

[41Dirk41]

I can't understand why if someone don't think that the Mavs are a title contender then he is a pessimistic fan... This team is dysfunctional, with Kyrie out and with all the hopes on a 18yo kid.

Mavs core is great and also our future will be great. No doubt. Thanks Silver.

I'm excited to see Flagg of course but i'm not excited about this Mavs season, can i? Or did i break some rules?

Houston have KD&Sengun who are great passers and offensive generator...and they were already a PO team.

But ehy other teams added size because the Mavs. Yes for sure, in your dreams.

I suggest you to reread my post if that's what you got from it, I can send you a pm in Italian to help you out.

Since when is KD considered a great passer? Also there was no Durant last season when they clinched the 2nd seed, all they had was FVV (I don't even consider that monodimensional chucker of Green).
Sengun is a nice facilitator but he ain't Jokic.

What's the point of bringing in all of that unneeded negativity? I don't even consider them legit title contender, I honestly don't know what we are even doing here.
Can I be sick and tired of all this toxicity on the internet? Or did I break some rules? All of the tears and drama won't bring Luka back, we are just shooting ourselves in the foot.

The most popular activity within the fanbase is to **** on our players, I'm kind of disgusted by that.
You're Italian and a Milan fan too, it's the same damn thing that is happening within our red&black fanbase, just move on, Paolo won't come back any time soon, players don't deserve to play in a toxic environment.

I'm not even talking about Mavs fans expectations, it's fair if you don't trust them, I just respectfully disagree, but that's not the issue: my point is legit Mavs fans should just move on, just like Luka did, if they can't, I suggest them to jump on the bandwagon.

I don't put **** of Mavs players (i don't like street clothes but say that he is a soft&fragile Robin is just the reality... I'm sorry.)

Yes you can be sick and tired about whatever you want for sure but you can't say what other users can write and nobody here wrote "i'm sick and tired about the optimism ecc ecc"

And like the Mod said, it's not about Luka... I'm ok about what the league gave to us but Harrison&Dumont have to go.
Nothing more.

[arkuo]

It's just rehashed Nico topics since the trade. Casey Smith, defense wins championships, Luka's overweight. Nico's been criticized for these things since the trade already. It's just being rehashed many times over on a daily basis. The board is just a collection of love letters for Luka, how many All NBA teams he was on and how much weight he lost. Which for me is a general board type of topic. I just think it's more apt for a Laker board or a general board. Not the Mavs board IMO. That's like me going to another board and trashing their management for whatever they've done. Those can get your posting rights suspended.

My suggestion is to create 2 sub topics inside the Mavs board if the Luka fans are willing to stay. The "Fire Nico" board can contain all those topics. And the other board can continue discussion with current Mavs related topics. That way you avoid clashing views if the Luka fans still decide to hang around his former team's board under the guise of freedom of speech.

[41Dirk41]

Luka haters are the most obsessed posters by him in the world lol

[arkuo]

The Luka fans will feel wronged by the trade and rightfully so. But is there a middle ground for it to be okay? Short of Luka coming back next week, I don't think so as it's already done. So I don't think an agreement can be had for a common ground to be met. We're gonna rehash fire Nico topics every week. Then again it's going to be a matter of who protests more. And Nico's not even here. There's like 5 of us here LOL.

[arkuo]

Luka haters are the most obsessed posters by him in the world lol

This is the messaging that comes out to the other side my friend. And the flinging of messages just won't have an end if one side tries to one up the other. The real enemy of the Luka fans is Nico.

The other side believes that if you don't voice you opposition of Nico in public then you support Luka getting traded. But every human being is different. You have the extremes, the ones who are in the middle, the slightly left and the guys moderately on the right. It's not just black or white. It also doesn't help that a lot of the Mava influencers are rehashing Luka trade hate on Twitrer to keep their engagement traffic up because it's the offseason and they're not getting as much clicks. It's an easy rage bait topic to keep traffic going. An echo chamber.

[Archx]

Luka haters are the most obsessed posters by him in the world lol

This is the messaging that comes out to the other side my friend. And the flinging of messages just won't have an end if one side tries to one up the other. The real enemy of the Luka fans is Nico.

The other side believes that if you don't voice you opposition of Nico in public then you support Luka getting traded. But every human being is different. You have the extremes, the ones who are in the middle, the slightly left and the guys moderately on the right. It's not just black or white. It also doesn't help that a lot of the Mava influencers are rehashing Luka trade hate on Twitrer to keep their engagement traffic up because it's the offseason and they're not getting as much clicks. It's an easy rage bait topic to keep traffic going. An echo chamber.

Do you think it's possible to like the Mavs, at the same time like both Flagg and Luka but don't like the ownership and Nico? You think that's possible or is that just some alternate reality in which we need your permission to talk on these boards?

You made it very clear in the past that you don't exactly like Luka and you made it clear you don't have a problem with the trade, we accepted that. But you also need to accept the fact that MAJORITY and i really mean majority of Mavs fans, simply don't like Nico and the ownership for what they have done.

If you're constantly hiding behind "Luka fans" argument you're effectively angering any other Mavs fans that repeatedly told you it's not even so much about Luka and it's more about the leadership. And since this is Mavs board, we discuss all things related to Mavs. Mavrelous already explained this to you, i also explained it to you the other day. You can still have other discussions here with other people and no one will bother you.

You like this team, you like what Nico has done, great. Me and Daoneandonly for example would love if this team would go into soft rebuild and focus on Flagg by trading AD and Kyrie, we have different opinions and we will voice them just like you will.

[arkuo]

Luka haters are the most obsessed posters by him in the world lol

This is the messaging that comes out to the other side my friend. And the flinging of messages just won't have an end if one side tries to one up the other. The real enemy of the Luka fans is Nico.

The other side believes that if you don't voice you opposition of Nico in public then you support Luka getting traded. But every human being is different. You have the extremes, the ones who are in the middle, the slightly left and the guys moderately on the right. It's not just black or white. It also doesn't help that a lot of the Mava influencers are rehashing Luka trade hate on Twitrer to keep their engagement traffic up because it's the offseason and they're not getting as much clicks. It's an easy rage bait topic to keep traffic going. An echo chamber.

Do you think it's possible to like the Mavs, at the same time like both Flagg and Luka but don't like the ownership and Nico? You think that's possible or is that just some alternate reality in which we need your permission to talk on these boards?

You made it very clear in the past that you don't exactly like Luka and you made it clear you don't have a problem with the trade, we accepted that. But you also need to accept the fact that MAJORITY and i really mean majority of Mavs fans, simply don't like Nico and the ownership for what they have done.

If you're constantly hiding behind "Luka fans" argument you're effectively angering any other Mavs fans that repeatedly told you it's not even so much about Luka and it's more about the leadership. And since this is Mavs board, we discuss all things related to Mavs. Mavrelous already explained this to you, i also explained it to you the other day. You can still have other discussions here with other people and no one will bother you.

You like this team, you like what Nico has done, great. Me and Daoneandonly for example would love if this team would go into soft rebuild and focus on Flagg by trading AD and Kyrie, we have different opinions and we will voice them just like you will.

The part I don't get is if the product is as bad as it is, then why support it? A little support is still considered support. I get the sides with extremes. Those don't get any reconcilation at all. If I hate Nico for example, I wouldn't support any product or company that he will benefit from. If the Mavs win, high likelihood that Nico gets extended. And if you pray the Mavs lose to stick it to Nico for karma, would that really be a Mavs fan or a wronged Luka fan? Would that heal the wounds? I don't think there is a halfway point there IMO. That's the part that doesn't make a lot of sense. The Luka fans hate Nico the same way Democrats hate Donald Trump. Rightfully so. But I'm just thinking of what's the end goal there? You're just going to be in fan purgatory until Nico is fired. And he will get fired if the Mavs lose big time. Connect the dots and essentially it's just waiting for the Mavs to F it up big time. Which begs the question, would being a Laker fan be a more viable option at this point? Poking fun at Nico from Lakerland makes a lot more sense that being on the Mavs boat and praying it sinks, no?

Somehow you're typing your message from Slovenia after management traded a Slovenian player. If I was in your place I would find it hard to support a team Nico works for. To sincerely support the Mavs, that would be pretty hard for any Slovenian today. Or just any guy who has ties to the country. Pretty sure Nico is public enemy number 1 over there, no?

[arkuo]

Arch, going back to trade discussions, I understand your point on a soft rebuild. But there has been zero indication from management or media that they remotely considering trading Kyrie or AD. No news on that whatsoever. I respect your right to voice your opinion on the matter but it holds the same weight as me wanting to trade AD for Giannis, since we're both putting out fantasy trades that have not been reported on. It's just not gonna happen IMO. I'd like to ask if you've read any sources that suggests Nico would trade Kyrie or AD? Not that they would get equal value today. Nico's gunning for it IMO. Not a sure thing of course, you still have to play 48 minutes of the game like everyone else.

[Archx]

Arch, going back to trade discussions, I understand your point on a soft rebuild. But there has been zero indication from management or media that they remotely considering trading Kyrie or AD. No news on that whatsoever. I respect your right to voice your opinion on the matter but it holds the same weight as me wanting to trade AD for Giannis, since we're both putting out fantasy trades that have not been reported on. It's just not gonna happen IMO. I'd like to ask if you've read any sources that suggests Nico would trade Kyrie or AD? Not that they would get equal value today. Nico's gunning for it IMO. Not a sure thing of course, you still have to play 48 minutes of the game like everyone else.

No, there has been no indication of any big trade happening. The reason why i would like to see Kyrie and AD traded is so Flagg can get the keys of the team. Imagine Flagg being able to learn from the ground up. Obviously having veterans (to soften the blow so to say) is in his benefit but most superstars learned the hard way. Hardly anyone gets handed a team that is ready to compete, most of them go through adversity. Flagg won't have any of that, he won't even be the focal point on offense, which can be a good or a bad thing.

It's very tricky. I think for all the BS Nico has done, he actually lucked into a great team more or less. And i repeatedly said even in general forums, i think Mavs (IF HEALTHY) are one of the biggest threats in the Western conference. But all in all, i would want them to start fresh with Flagg, i simply don't trust AD's and Kyrie's health.

Somehow you're typing your message from Slovenia after management traded a Slovenian player. If I was in your place I would find it hard to support a team Nico works for. To sincerely support the Mavs, that would be pretty hard for any Slovenian today. Or just any guy who has ties to the country. Pretty sure Nico is public enemy number 1 over there, no?

To be perfectly honest. 99% of Slovenian fans, we moved on. Mavs are one of the 3 teams i followed the most in my entire life because of Dirk and Cuban, so therefore i will naturally always be a fan. But there is no talk about Mavs here anymore, it's done, it's history. That's why i keep telling you it's not even about Luka. Sure we can still compare things from time to time, but it's what Mavrelous said, basically it's about principles. Imagine the disrespect Dirk has gotten from the front office as well.... I think we can both agree Germans are also not happy about Nico

[arkuo]

Imagine the disrespect Dirk has gotten from the front office as well.... I think we can both agree Germans are also not happy about Nico

Oh our German friends have more problems. I'd imagine even the football team is not up to par than what it used to be.

[41Dirk41]

It's fantastic let Flagg-Live-Christie play in a winning team and grow with a winning culture. Absolutely great.

But the biggest Nico problems are his words, he can't survive at those... If Dallas will not win a title in 2 years he is done so his future is clear. He knows it too. Live with it my friends.

[arkuo]

AD being the highest paid player has to be the number 1 option. He needs to load manage games the same way Kawhi did the past few years. No back to back games and if possible play games near the playoffs similar to what Kawhi did. He will get clowned for it but I rather have him healthy for the playoffs than games in November.