Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[ACMFFL]

I'm nowhere near knowledgeable or aware enough to tell fans how to fan, I personally find the sight of Nico Harrison revolting, I, as a normal human being who's appalled by seeing injustice in general and a Mavs fan, was disgusted not by the trade itself, but by every manner the Dallas Maverick organization, ownership and FO, handled it, from the disgraceful press conference in Celveland, to smearing Luka on the way out, antagonizing fans who were shocked by the trade, the Soviet like crack down on voicing displeasure, the Orwellian erasing of his name from the arena, to hiding for months until the exit interviews.
I despise insulting my intelligence by claiming Cooper Flagg was part of their vision.
I devoured every piece of information, and still saw nothing, absolutely nothing, that justifies the trade, let alone what they did afterwards, I wish Nico Harrison and Patrick Dumont to go to the dust bin of history where they belong.
As for the players, I will never be able to root for Anthony Davis, it's not his fault, but I disliked him before and dislike him even more now, but I will root for everyone else on the team, fully aware it wasn't their fault, and many of them were screwed by it even more than us fans, namely PJ and DLive.

I honestly don't get your post as a whole tbh, I've never said that Mavs fans should embrace Harrison vision nor I justified that trade.
But at this juncture what's the point of dwelling on the past? I honestly don't get it, we can't change what has already happened and owner doesn't give a damn about us and what we want.
Basically Mavs fans are just shooting themselves on the foot.
All the tears and drama won't bring Luka back, just saying.

[arkuo]

Mavs have a new team president. Supposedly some guy that was formerly employed by Minnesota. Whether that is a good or bad thing, we'll find out.

Was initially confused. I thought that was the position of the Welts guy. Apparently different functions.

[ACMFFL]

I think there is a clear difference. Most unhappy Mavs fans on Realgm are from Europe (most not all). What that means I don't know. But just an observation. But a lot of unhappy Europeans right now. LOL

Europeans are usually fans of the team, not just of the players.
Here clubs are considered bigger than players, even fodder club fans won't change team based on where their former best player goes.

[ACMFFL]

No bro, they traded Luka so that means the Mavs suck. They have no depth and have all of the worst players in the world.

Yeah, I'm honestly sick and tired of this mood and attitude within the fanbase.
It's now time to pick a choice:
1) move on, just like Luka did, and jump on the LAL bandwagon;
2) stay a Mavs fan, cheer for these players (who did nothing wrong to deserve to play for a toxic fanbase) and objectively judge FO's moves without any bias.

I mean just look at this garbage posted on the most pathetic place on the internet today, Mavs Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1mb4rwt/he_was_supposed_to_have_a_statue/

What's the point in bringing in Flagg on that kind of video?
All the other 29 fanbases would have been thrilled and super excited about adding Cooper on their team, but not this one, we rather throw Flagg under the bus after 1 SL game because some so-called Mavs fans decided that nothing good can't happen to this franchise anymore, I guess they love to feel miserable.

I think you're severely overreacting. Mavs fanbase is unhappy with Nico because this team would have a top3 MVP candidate in his prime and perfect players built around him. Nico decided to postpone that for the next like 5 or more years. I didn't see a single post around the internet that said "Don't pick Flagg we hate him" or something like that.

You have to understand that until Nico is with Mavs, fans will be pissed off. You see trucks around Dallas having their license plates named "Fire Nico" or murals with the same writing on them. All in all, getting Flagg was some kind of a miracle, if we can call it like that, but at the end of the day Nico has done an unthinkable thing to this team.

Go tell Dirk to stop pouting and get back to Mavs games if you dare ... Yeah, it's that bad, but has nothing to do with the players or Flagg himself. And this is why some posters here still can't understand why 99% of Mavs fanbase is unhappy, it's not the team, it's the people in the background.

I'm still unhappy with Harrison as well, I want him fired asap but I dont get the sense of these kind of posts, I saw so many people on that pathetic sub **** on Flagg just because he has been drafted by this FO. That's disgusting.
I just hope fans won't bring all of this negativity at the AAC, cause that would affect players and they don't deserve to play in a toxic environment.

[Bob8]

Yeah, I'm honestly sick and tired of this mood and attitude within the fanbase.
It's now time to pick a choice:
1) move on, just like Luka did, and jump on the LAL bandwagon;
2) stay a Mavs fan, cheer for these players (who did nothing wrong to deserve to play for a toxic fanbase) and objectively judge FO's moves without any bias.

I mean just look at this garbage posted on the most pathetic place on the internet today, Mavs Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1mb4rwt/he_was_supposed_to_have_a_statue/

What's the point in bringing in Flagg on that kind of video?
All the other 29 fanbases would have been thrilled and super excited about adding Cooper on their team, but not this one, we rather throw Flagg under the bus after 1 SL game because some so-called Mavs fans decided that nothing good can't happen to this franchise anymore, I guess they love to feel miserable.

I think you're severely overreacting. Mavs fanbase is unhappy with Nico because this team would have a top3 MVP candidate in his prime and perfect players built around him. Nico decided to postpone that for the next like 5 or more years. I didn't see a single post around the internet that said "Don't pick Flagg we hate him" or something like that.

You have to understand that until Nico is with Mavs, fans will be pissed off. You see trucks around Dallas having their license plates named "Fire Nico" or murals with the same writing on them. All in all, getting Flagg was some kind of a miracle, if we can call it like that, but at the end of the day Nico has done an unthinkable thing to this team.

Go tell Dirk to stop pouting and get back to Mavs games if you dare ... Yeah, it's that bad, but has nothing to do with the players or Flagg himself. And this is why some posters here still can't understand why 99% of Mavs fanbase is unhappy, it's not the team, it's the people in the background.

I'm still unhappy with Harrison as well, I want him fired asap but I dont get the sense of these kind of posts, I saw so many people on that pathetic sub **** on Flagg just because he has been drafted by this FO. That's disgusting.
I just hope fans won't bring all of this negativity at the AAC, cause that would affect players and they don't deserve to play in a toxic environment.

Flag is in really strange situation. People are saying how lucky he's to be drafted in a team with a good roster. I don't see like that. Expectations about him are totally unrealistic, especially in a good team and especially in Mavs, who want new Luka. Kidd saying that he will play point makes that even worse. Flagg is a 4, who will play 3 and has no handles to play point. Flagg will force too much. Unlike rookie Luka, he didn't play a serious professional game yet, things can go bad very fast. His main advantage in college was his already developed body, that advantage is gone in Nba. He would be better off, if he was drafted in a team like Wemby with no expectations for first season.

Mavs should have immediately start to built team around him and get young interesting players for AD and Kyrie when they still can. Few more injuries and AD's and Kyrie's contract will be negative.

[Mr B]

Well, last season Mavs won 39 games despite being the most injury plagued team in the league. You're basicaly expecting another catastrophe if you think they'll win the same number of games as they did in 24/25..meh.
Mavs had Luka (missed 27 out 49 games) or AD (23 out of 32 games) for just 31 games..as fragile as AD is, he still averaged 60 games played per season since he entered the league, that's almost 2x of what we had last season, just saying.

Rockets have 3 guards on the roster (VanVleet, Aaron Holiday, Sheppard) and people still have them as top tier team in the stacked West, I actually don't see so much difference between their backcourt and ours (DLo, Exum, BWill).

Yeah Luka is that good, not even a question, but let's not forget that he missed the PO when he had a dysfunctional supporting cast after Mavs traded defense for offense..I just don't trust the roster around him at all.

You might be forgetting that catastrophe has happened already. Kyrie will be out for vast majority of the season and be very unlikely his old himself when/if he returns in the last part of the season.

Kyrie and Luka together have played 72 games last year. That's what Mavs backcourt will be missing this year. Unless you believe 34 years old Kyrie, who was always very slow to return, will force his return and miraculously play great immediately.

About Lakers, they have better roster than last year, with far better and motivated Luka than last year. And if I can remember right they were 3rd in RS last year. Yes they have lost in round 1, playing small ball without a C and with Luka clearly out of shape and psychologically shattered. Mavs playoffs Luka might have been enough to beat Wolves even without a C. Mavs would have never beaten Wolves in WCF, if Luka was playing like in Lakers.

For catastrophe I mean that Mavs struggle again to find 5 men to suit up.

Luka and Kyrie played a grand total of 21 games together for the Mavs. Last season Dallas had basically no backcourt for all the season long.

Sounds like wishful thinking lol Lakers have no perimeter defense, I don't see how their lineup will prevent opponents from scoring 120 at nights. Fakers finished their season with just +0.71 points differential over the most injury plagued team in the league, just saying.
Mavs won 50 games in 2022, that didn't prevent them from missing the playoff the following year, every season is a different story.
As I said Houston have a similar level of backcourt and people still consider them a top tier team.

The only thing that impresses me is the power of LAL PR machine, but other than that we get these reports every damn summer about his conditioning.

Yeah that Mavs team would have never beaten the Wolves in 2024 without Luka, but I don't get the point, current Mavs are a very different team, they still matchup pretty well against Minnie. And no, we wouldn't have even made it past the second round without our center rotation, Lively in particular was quite instrumental in that run, especially against OKC and Minnie.

Lakers also have no interior defense.

[41Dirk41]

Yes i feel bad for Flagg too, he probably is in the worst place for him.
And he knews it when Mavs won the lottery, a lot of speculation there.

The comparison with Doncic by the media will be inevitable... I just hope he will be overcome expectations and be strong.

Everybody here know who has the fault of course.

[Mavrelous]

I'm nowhere near knowledgeable or aware enough to tell fans how to fan, I personally find the sight of Nico Harrison revolting, I, as a normal human being who's appalled by seeing injustice in general and a Mavs fan, was disgusted not by the trade itself, but by every manner the Dallas Maverick organization, ownership and FO, handled it, from the disgraceful press conference in Celveland, to smearing Luka on the way out, antagonizing fans who were shocked by the trade, the Soviet like crack down on voicing displeasure, the Orwellian erasing of his name from the arena, to hiding for months until the exit interviews.
I despise insulting my intelligence by claiming Cooper Flagg was part of their vision.
I devoured every piece of information, and still saw nothing, absolutely nothing, that justifies the trade, let alone what they did afterwards, I wish Nico Harrison and Patrick Dumont to go to the dust bin of history where they belong.
As for the players, I will never be able to root for Anthony Davis, it's not his fault, but I disliked him before and dislike him even more now, but I will root for everyone else on the team, fully aware it wasn't their fault, and many of them were screwed by it even more than us fans, namely PJ and DLive.

I honestly don't get your post as a whole tbh, I've never said that Mavs fans should embrace Harrison vision nor I justified that trade.
But at this juncture what's the point of dwelling on the past? I honestly don't get it, we can't change what has already happened and owner doesn't give a damn about us and what we want.
Basically Mavs fans are just shooting themselves on the foot.
All the tears and drama won't bring Luka back, just saying.

People will move on at their pace, and IMO, people should never forget Nico Harrison is a scumbag, and should root for his ousting, how each strives to do this is his own decision.
I think the people of Dallas handled it with dignity and showed Luka they appreciate him, and will continue to do so, I wouldn't call their behaviour toxicity, they never badmouthed ot booed any of the players, to the contrary, they cheered them and emraced them, including AD.

[Mavrelous]

Flagg is playing under experiend coaching staff, next to experienced vets with wealth of information and connections, he's doing just fine.

[Mr B]

You might be forgetting that catastrophe has happened already. Kyrie will be out for vast majority of the season and be very unlikely his old himself when/if he returns in the last part of the season.

Kyrie and Luka together have played 72 games last year. That's what Mavs backcourt will be missing this year. Unless you believe 34 years old Kyrie, who was always very slow to return, will force his return and miraculously play great immediately.

About Lakers, they have better roster than last year, with far better and motivated Luka than last year. And if I can remember right they were 3rd in RS last year. Yes they have lost in round 1, playing small ball without a C and with Luka clearly out of shape and psychologically shattered. Mavs playoffs Luka might have been enough to beat Wolves even without a C. Mavs would have never beaten Wolves in WCF, if Luka was playing like in Lakers.

For catastrophe I mean that Mavs struggle again to find 5 men to suit up.

Luka and Kyrie played a grand total of 21 games together for the Mavs. Last season Dallas had basically no backcourt for all the season long.

Sounds like wishful thinking lol Lakers have no perimeter defense, I don't see how their lineup will prevent opponents from scoring 120 at nights. Fakers finished their season with just +0.71 points differential over the most injury plagued team in the league, just saying.
Mavs won 50 games in 2022, that didn't prevent them from missing the playoff the following year, every season is a different story.
As I said Houston have a similar level of backcourt and people still consider them a top tier team.

The only thing that impresses me is the power of LAL PR machine, but other than we get these reports every damn summer about his conditioning.

Yeah that Mavs team would have never beaten the Wolves in 2024 without Luka, but I don't get the point, current Mavs are a very different team, they still matchup pretty well against Minnie. And no, we wouldn't have even made it past the second round without our center rotation, Lively in particular was quite instrumental in that run, especially against OKC and Minnie.

They played 21 games together but I would say one of them on the court is still light years better than what will Mavs have this year for backcourt. Mavs fans are pretty spoiled watching 7 years of Luka, Brunson and Kyrie in the backcourt. It will be totally new experience this year. It's very difficult to find a team built like Mavs, where you have all important players in 4 or 5. Could it work? Maybe, but it seems highly unlikely, because all those players can't even create for themselves.

If you compare last year's and this year's Lakers team, you have full year Luka vs. 28 games Luka, who was not in the best physical and psychological shape. AD was already injured when Lakers made a run. Then you have Ayton vs. Hayes, which is a huge improvement no matter how much you like 16.5/10.5 career player in his prime. And then you have LaRavia + Smart vs DFS. This depends mostly on how LaRavia looks, it could go both ways. I would say that Lakers should be better than last year it depends how others will look this year. In the West you have OKC and then 6-8 teams that can finish anywhere between 2nd place and play-in.

I see Nico has won with his D mantra. Strangely enough Luka and Kyrie, who are not exactly known about D, playing 40 minutes, were in the Finals 1 year ago. And have lost that Finals because nobody could hit anything not because of D. Celtics had 107 offensive rtg.

Not even mentioning Mavs making WCF with 3 best players, Luka, Brunson and Dinwiddie being known as notorious bad defensive players and Powell as rim protector.

In the end it's pretty simple in Nba. If you have MVP anything is possible. If Luka has the best season of his career, Lakers will be top 3 RS team, with some chances in playoffs. If not ...

Btw. I saw Luka in Krk and believe me, he was never in similar shape than this year. It's basically rookie Luka with muscles.

It’s kind of funny that absolutely no one considered the Mavs title contenders until they added Gafford and PJ (interior defense). They were a playoff team for sure but were not legit contenders until they added rim protection, interior defense, and rebounding.

[Mr B]

They played 21 games together but I would say one of them on the court is still light years better than what will Mavs have this year for backcourt. Mavs fans are pretty spoiled watching 7 years of Luka, Brunson and Kyrie in the backcourt. It will be totally new experience this year. It's very difficult to find a team built like Mavs, where you have all important players in 4 or 5. Could it work? Maybe, but it seems highly unlikely, because all those players can't even create for themselves.

If you compare last year's and this year's Lakers team, you have full year Luka vs. 28 games Luka, who was not in the best physical and psychological shape. AD was already injured when Lakers made a run. Then you have Ayton vs. Haynes, which is a huge improvement no matter how much you like 16.5/10.5 career player in his prime. And then you have LaRavia + Smart vs DFS. This depends mostly on how LaRavia looks, it could go both ways. I would say that Lakers should be better than last year it depends how others will look this year. In the West you have OKC and then 6-8 teams that can finish anywhere between 2nd place and play-in.

Their main problem wasn't the lack of guards but health.
I know people loves to **** on AD but as soft and fragile he is, he averaged 60 games per season since he entered the league. If you consider only his most recent years, he still averaged 56 games per season in his LAL stint.
That's a huge improvement over the 31 games we got from our 1st option (Luka/AD) all the season long.
PJ and Gafford won't miss 25 games each again.
DLo ain't Kyrie but he's still a very solid stopgap solution.
Honestly who cares how fans will feel it, I think they will be fine as long as the Mavs play winning basketball.

Roster construction isn't ideal but it isn't set in stone, they have tons of options (a lot of good and moveable players + 2 1sts) to acquire another guard.

Yeah I agree that after OKC they are all pretty much on the same level.
Lakers were 25-18 with AD on the court, on average only 2.3 less wins than their final record (58% VS 61%)
Better production doesn't always translate in winning impact, I just don't trust Ayton. He was good 3 years ago, that's an eternity in the NBA tho.
DFS was pretty crucial for them, I didn't watch a single Lakers game last season for obvious reasons but that's what numbers suggest, in particular on/off but maybe it's mainly on LBJ, that metric kind of hated him last season. Smart looked pretty washed since he left Boston.
Imho they would be better off if they can get rid of LeBron for a wing stopper, that would change everything and elevate them to top contender tier in my eyes.

I mostly agree with you, but you're missing crucial point. Mavs best player is already injured, that's the worst possible scenario to happen before the season. We don't know what will happen during the season but Mavs already start with bad luck. Even if they have normal season regarding injuries from now on, it will still be injuries riddled season, because they will miss their best player. You can bet on Exum, AD, Lively...missing many games anyway.

AD has played only twice more than 60 games since 17/18 season. That's hardly a coincidence.

I agree the best case scenario would be trading LeBron, but realistically who can match his 52 mio salary and want him.

Smart was playing in 2 tanking teams. It's very difficult to evaluate his real value. His injuries was more or less minor, but he missed a lot of games, which commonly happens In tanking teams. He's younger than DFS so I doubt he's really washed.

About Ayton, playing with whom he looked the best? Rubio and CP3, now he will play with Luka and don't forget it's his contract year. Hayes problem was that he couldn't stay on court in playoffs, because he was not existing in offense and not good enough in D. Ayton is at least good rebounder and capable of scoring.

True, they are without their best player. That is absolutely going to affect them this year. They didn’t lose their only good player though. They still have a very competitive team.

I will also say that I did not want DLo. I don’t believe he’s good for the locker room however no one can deny that he can play. He doesn’t have to be as good as Kyrie either. All he has to do is help keep the team within reach of the play in. Give Kyrie time to get back and time to shake some of the rust off. If Kyrie can get back at least a month before the end of the season (I actually think he’ll be back earlier) that should give him time to shake some of the rust off.

That’s what I think/hope will happen. Am I delusional? Maybe but I’m a Mavs fan. I actually want them to succeed.

[Bob8]

For catastrophe I mean that Mavs struggle again to find 5 men to suit up.

Luka and Kyrie played a grand total of 21 games together for the Mavs. Last season Dallas had basically no backcourt for all the season long.

Sounds like wishful thinking lol Lakers have no perimeter defense, I don't see how their lineup will prevent opponents from scoring 120 at nights. Fakers finished their season with just +0.71 points differential over the most injury plagued team in the league, just saying.
Mavs won 50 games in 2022, that didn't prevent them from missing the playoff the following year, every season is a different story.
As I said Houston have a similar level of backcourt and people still consider them a top tier team.

The only thing that impresses me is the power of LAL PR machine, but other than we get these reports every damn summer about his conditioning.

Yeah that Mavs team would have never beaten the Wolves in 2024 without Luka, but I don't get the point, current Mavs are a very different team, they still matchup pretty well against Minnie. And no, we wouldn't have even made it past the second round without our center rotation, Lively in particular was quite instrumental in that run, especially against OKC and Minnie.

They played 21 games together but I would say one of them on the court is still light years better than what will Mavs have this year for backcourt. Mavs fans are pretty spoiled watching 7 years of Luka, Brunson and Kyrie in the backcourt. It will be totally new experience this year. It's very difficult to find a team built like Mavs, where you have all important players in 4 or 5. Could it work? Maybe, but it seems highly unlikely, because all those players can't even create for themselves.

If you compare last year's and this year's Lakers team, you have full year Luka vs. 28 games Luka, who was not in the best physical and psychological shape. AD was already injured when Lakers made a run. Then you have Ayton vs. Hayes, which is a huge improvement no matter how much you like 16.5/10.5 career player in his prime. And then you have LaRavia + Smart vs DFS. This depends mostly on how LaRavia looks, it could go both ways. I would say that Lakers should be better than last year it depends how others will look this year. In the West you have OKC and then 6-8 teams that can finish anywhere between 2nd place and play-in.

I see Nico has won with his D mantra. Strangely enough Luka and Kyrie, who are not exactly known about D, playing 40 minutes, were in the Finals 1 year ago. And have lost that Finals because nobody could hit anything not because of D. Celtics had 107 offensive rtg.

Not even mentioning Mavs making WCF with 3 best players, Luka, Brunson and Dinwiddie being known as notorious bad defensive players and Powell as rim protector.

In the end it's pretty simple in Nba. If you have MVP anything is possible. If Luka has the best season of his career, Lakers will be top 3 RS team, with some chances in playoffs. If not ...

Btw. I saw Luka in Krk and believe me, he was never in similar shape than this year. It's basically rookie Luka with muscles.

It’s kind of funny that absolutely no one considered the Mavs title contenders until they added Gafford and PJ (interior defense). They were a playoff team for sure but were not legit contenders until they added rim protection, interior defense, and rebounding.

And it's interesting how some Mavs fans are forgetting how big problems with injuries Mavs had in 23/24 season too before trade deadline. It was very similar situation than last year, Luka singlehanded keeping them in the play. Needing to score 70+ points with 90+ TS% to narrowly winning games. Mavs didn't only get PJ and Gafford they got all injured players back after trade line. That's why they played great after All star break. Mavs were in WCF in 22 with Luka, Brunson, Dinwiddie and Powell as rim protector. Difficult to see worse defensive lineup.

Yes, it's great to have great D, but first you need to have great offense. Would OKC won without having MVP or Denver, would Boston won without having the best starting lineup? D wins championships, when you have dominant offense too.

[Mr B]

No bro, they traded Luka so that means the Mavs suck. They have no depth and have all of the worst players in the world.

Yeah, I'm honestly sick and tired of this mood and attitude within the fanbase.
It's now time to pick a choice:
1) move on, just like Luka did, and jump on the LAL bandwagon;
2) stay a Mavs fan, cheer for these players (who did nothing wrong to deserve to play for a toxic fanbase) and objectively judge FO's moves without any bias.

I mean just look at this garbage posted on the most pathetic place on the internet today, Mavs Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1mb4rwt/he_was_supposed_to_have_a_statue/

What's the point in bringing in Flagg on that kind of video?
All the other 29 fanbases would have been thrilled and super excited about adding Cooper on their team, but not this one, we rather throw Flagg under the bus after 1 SL game because some so-called Mavs fans decided that nothing good can't happen to this franchise anymore, I guess they love to feel miserable.

I think you're severely overreacting. Mavs fanbase is unhappy with Nico because this team would have a top3 MVP candidate in his prime and perfect players built around him. Nico decided to postpone that for the next like 5 or more years. I didn't see a single post around the internet that said "Don't pick Flagg we hate him" or something like that.

You have to understand that until Nico is with Mavs, fans will be pissed off. You see trucks around Dallas having their license plates named "Fire Nico" or murals with the same writing on them. All in all, getting Flagg was some kind of a miracle, if we can call it like that, but at the end of the day Nico has done an unthinkable thing to this team.

Go tell Dirk to stop pouting and get back to Mavs games if you dare ... Yeah, it's that bad, but has nothing to do with the players or Flagg himself. And this is why some posters here still can't understand why 99% of Mavs fanbase is unhappy, it's not the team, it's the people in the background.

First off there is not a large amount of fans in Dallas still screaming “Fire Nico”. You may get 1 or 2 people (probably even the same guy) at an event saying that. Just because you saw 1 guy on Twitter with that plate doesn’t mean there are thousands of people in Dallas with that license plate.

As for Dirk, he isn’t constantly crying that Luka got traded. He did what I suggested a couple of fans here should do and that’s just step away from basketball for a little while if you hate what the Mavs are doing. Why put yourself through such anguish and turmoil? When the team starts contending again Dirk will be welcomed back. No hard feelings if you step away for a while.

[Bob8]

Yeah, I'm honestly sick and tired of this mood and attitude within the fanbase.
It's now time to pick a choice:
1) move on, just like Luka did, and jump on the LAL bandwagon;
2) stay a Mavs fan, cheer for these players (who did nothing wrong to deserve to play for a toxic fanbase) and objectively judge FO's moves without any bias.

I mean just look at this garbage posted on the most pathetic place on the internet today, Mavs Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1mb4rwt/he_was_supposed_to_have_a_statue/

What's the point in bringing in Flagg on that kind of video?
All the other 29 fanbases would have been thrilled and super excited about adding Cooper on their team, but not this one, we rather throw Flagg under the bus after 1 SL game because some so-called Mavs fans decided that nothing good can't happen to this franchise anymore, I guess they love to feel miserable.

I think you're severely overreacting. Mavs fanbase is unhappy with Nico because this team would have a top3 MVP candidate in his prime and perfect players built around him. Nico decided to postpone that for the next like 5 or more years. I didn't see a single post around the internet that said "Don't pick Flagg we hate him" or something like that.

You have to understand that until Nico is with Mavs, fans will be pissed off. You see trucks around Dallas having their license plates named "Fire Nico" or murals with the same writing on them. All in all, getting Flagg was some kind of a miracle, if we can call it like that, but at the end of the day Nico has done an unthinkable thing to this team.

Go tell Dirk to stop pouting and get back to Mavs games if you dare ... Yeah, it's that bad, but has nothing to do with the players or Flagg himself. And this is why some posters here still can't understand why 99% of Mavs fanbase is unhappy, it's not the team, it's the people in the background.

First off there is not a large amount of fans in Dallas still screaming “Fire Nico”. You may get 1 or 2 people (probably even the same guy) at an event saying that. Just because you saw 1 guy on Twitter with that plate doesn’t mean there are thousands of people in Dallas with that license plate.

As for Dirk, he isn’t constantly crying that Luka got traded. He did what I suggested a couple of fans here should do and that’s just step away from basketball for a little while if you hate what the Mavs are doing. Why put yourself through such anguish and turmoil? When the team starts contending again Dirk will be welcomed back. No hard feelings if you step away for a while.

Team's legend stepping away looks normal to you? Are you saying that Dirk is just a fan? I wonder if his statue should step away too?

[41Dirk41]

I think you're severely overreacting. Mavs fanbase is unhappy with Nico because this team would have a top3 MVP candidate in his prime and perfect players built around him. Nico decided to postpone that for the next like 5 or more years. I didn't see a single post around the internet that said "Don't pick Flagg we hate him" or something like that.

You have to understand that until Nico is with Mavs, fans will be pissed off. You see trucks around Dallas having their license plates named "Fire Nico" or murals with the same writing on them. All in all, getting Flagg was some kind of a miracle, if we can call it like that, but at the end of the day Nico has done an unthinkable thing to this team.

Go tell Dirk to stop pouting and get back to Mavs games if you dare ... Yeah, it's that bad, but has nothing to do with the players or Flagg himself. And this is why some posters here still can't understand why 99% of Mavs fanbase is unhappy, it's not the team, it's the people in the background.

First off there is not a large amount of fans in Dallas still screaming “Fire Nico”. You may get 1 or 2 people (probably even the same guy) at an event saying that. Just because you saw 1 guy on Twitter with that plate doesn’t mean there are thousands of people in Dallas with that license plate.

As for Dirk, he isn’t constantly crying that Luka got traded. He did what I suggested a couple of fans here should do and that’s just step away from basketball for a little while if you hate what the Mavs are doing. Why put yourself through such anguish and turmoil? When the team starts contending again Dirk will be welcomed back. No hard feelings if you step away for a while.

Team's legend stepping away looks normal to you? I wonder if his statue could step away too?

That's one of the most absurd things that i've never read in this forum. OMG.

[41Dirk41]

Dirk is more Mavs fans than all of us together.

[Mr B]

I think understanding that there are 2 sides of every coin solves some things. There are people who are ok with the trade, there are people who are against it and people just in between. It's not black or white, it just depends on what echo chamber and what information one is consuming right now. Similar to politics, if your algorithm is all red, then you'll be on that side. Same goes with the blue side. And now there's a clash between groups who have complained each day for months now and another group who just wants to watch Flagg.

Right now, the Mavs board is divided into 2. A group who wants to stay, and the other group who are already Lakers fans but just don't know it yet. If someone hates Nico through and through, and still decides to stay and support the product that Nico puts out. Then it's just masochism at this point.

I want to be clear, I have 0 problems with people who wanted the trade, or people who didn't like Luka, I know Luka is a polarizing figure and can be a chore to watch sometimes with his whining and body language.
What I will never understand is justifying Nico Harrison, even if he saw he needed to trade Luka, the way he came around to do it, the return he got and the way he handled it afterwards were tragic.

No one is justifying Nico, at least I’m not. I wish he would get fired too. That’s not going to happen though. So I have 2 choices, I can bitch and moan about Nico so much that I have annoyed every person around me, or I can just look at the product the floor. Is the product on the floor a good product? And the answer is yes.

It’s not perfect but it is still a very good product. These guys play extremely hard and haven’t quit or laid down even though they were given every opportunity too. That’s a team I want to root for. The Mavs are my team and I will root for them because the guys on the team deserve it, even AD.

[Mr B]

I'm nowhere near knowledgeable or aware enough to tell fans how to fan, I personally find the sight of Nico Harrison revolting, I, as a normal human being who's appalled by seeing injustice in general and a Mavs fan, was disgusted not by the trade itself, but by every manner the Dallas Maverick organization, ownership and FO, handled it, from the disgraceful press conference in Celveland, to smearing Luka on the way out, antagonizing fans who were shocked by the trade, the Soviet like crack down on voicing displeasure, the Orwellian erasing of his name from the arena, to hiding for months until the exit interviews.
I despise insulting my intelligence by claiming Cooper Flagg was part of their vision.
I devoured every piece of information, and still saw nothing, absolutely nothing, that justifies the trade, let alone what they did afterwards, I wish Nico Harrison and Patrick Dumont to go to the dust bin of history where they belong.
As for the players, I will never be able to root for Anthony Davis, it's not his fault, but I disliked him before and dislike him even more now, but I will root for everyone else on the team, fully aware it wasn't their fault, and many of them were screwed by it even more than us fans, namely PJ and DLive.

I honestly don't get your post as a whole tbh, I've never said that Mavs fans should embrace Harrison vision nor I justified that trade.
But at this juncture what's the point of dwelling on the past? I honestly don't get it, we can't change what has already happened and owner doesn't give a damn about us and what we want.
Basically Mavs fans are just shooting themselves on the foot.
All the tears and drama won't bring Luka back, just saying.

That’s the problem with Luka fans. If you don’t openly hate Nico and voice it every chance you get then you must blindly support every move he makes.

[Mr B]

Mavs have a new team president. Supposedly some guy that was formerly employed by Minnesota. Whether that is a good or bad thing, we'll find out.

Was initially confused. I thought that was the position of the Welts guy. Apparently different functions.

Interested to see how they plan to do this.

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[Mr B]

I think there is a clear difference. Most unhappy Mavs fans on Realgm are from Europe (most not all). What that means I don't know. But just an observation. But a lot of unhappy Europeans right now. LOL

Europeans are usually fans of the team, not just of the players.
Here clubs are considered bigger than players, even fodder club fans won't change team based on where their former best player goes.

That’s how I see the Mavs. The team is bigger than any 1 player, coach, or front office guy.