2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6

[HeatGuyInChicago]

Sam Presti is the top GM right now I would assume after winning the Championship. The team is setup financially for the next 3 years.

Year Wins Loses Pct Playoff Results
2024-25 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder* 68 14 .829 Won Finals
2023-24 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder* 57 25 .695 Lost W. Conf. Semis
2022-23 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder 40 42 .488
2021-22 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder 24 58 .293
2020-21 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder 22 50 .306

Sam Presti's did a great job. He transitioned Oklahoma City from the Russell Westbrook era to the SGA era. It took 2 very bad seasons for Oklahoma to accomplish it. I believe they are in position to contend for 3 more years before the CBA comes calling where it makes it too expensive to contend.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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No Dru on a 2 way. Probably a prorated contract during the season once he gets fully healthy and we are under the tax.

But why lol? Solid defender and shooter but he’s torn his Achilles and ACL while being a fringe nba player at best. If we were to let him walk away there might be 1-2 teams interested at best, I don’t see why we keep spending so much time on him. Nothing against him, I just don’t see the point when we’re already wasting spots on Terry and Keshad as it is

[MettaWorldPanda]

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No Dru on a 2 way. Probably a prorated contract during the season once he gets fully healthy and we are under the tax.

But why lol? Solid defender and shooter but he’s torn his Achilles and ACL while being a fringe nba player at best. If we were to let him walk away there might be 1-2 teams interested at best, I don’t see why we keep spending so much time on him. Nothing against him, I just don’t see the point when we’re already wasting spots on Terry and Keshad as it is

They can’t quit Dru lol. Nothing going to happen until they figure out the Rozier situation. DeRozan or Vucevic for Rozier needs to go down here soon but probably still waiting on the Kuminga domino to fall.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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No Dru on a 2 way. Probably a prorated contract during the season once he gets fully healthy and we are under the tax.

But why lol? Solid defender and shooter but he’s torn his Achilles and ACL while being a fringe nba player at best. If we were to let him walk away there might be 1-2 teams interested at best, I don’t see why we keep spending so much time on him. Nothing against him, I just don’t see the point when we’re already wasting spots on Terry and Keshad as it is

They can’t quit Dru lol. Nothing going to happen until they figure out the Rozier situation. DeRozan or Vucevic for Rozier needs to go down here soon but probably still waiting on the Kuminga domino to fall.

Apparently Kuminga to Sacramento means Derozan is out so you’re probably right!

[lastb1ckman]

What an offseason we are having by the way.. the state of the franchise has us ranking the most embarrassing moments of the franchise…

Like I've said before. There's nothing about the Heat right now that calls for this level of dooming. Folks sound like Hornets fans on here sometimes. They're clamoring for SUMMER LEAGUE CHAMPION shirts right now because that's the closest they've ever got to a ring. We've made it to 3 conference finals and two nba finals in the last 5 years. Plus the 3 rings and ECFs and finals appearances before that. These two franchises came into the league at the same time.

I mean to be fair, the OG Hornets franchise started off hot, but Pat Riley changed the fate of both franchises when he traded for Zo. Did you know that Pat Riley has been in a non-coaching role with the Heat far longer than he was the coach? He has been out of the game for a while now. I think that is a big reason why the franchise is starting to decline. Pat Riley is irreplaceable, but he is also up there in years and 15+ years removed from the game. Add to that the fact that Spo has been one of the longest active coaches in the league and he is showing burnout as well and you can start to see why people aren’t happy with the direction the franchise is heading.

I mean, Pat is going to have to retire eventually. Time comes to everyone. But I really don't understand the idea the franchise has declined. I feel its more like fans take their team for granted. Most Heat fans have never had to experience your team being **** for 5, 10, maybe 15 years. And I'm not talking play in, I'm talking high lottery ****. Getting blown out every other game, no allstars, a constant cycle of coaches coming in and out, maybe 1 pick every decade turns into something, so you gotta cling to that guy for your life so big markets don't snatch him up. Just look at darn near other team in the east outside the Celtics. Can you imagine being the Magic? The Hawks? The Wizards? The 76ers? Detroit? Hell, with Bucks and Cleveland most of their success is in the last decade or so, out of like 60 years of existence.

The Heat are in an alright state. They're building their picks back and they're developing players. They have 2 allstar level players still in their 20s. They'll soon have cap space and flexibility once Rozier expires. They have options, and sooner or later they'll build another contender or make another deep playoff run. Because that's what they do.

[HeatFanLifer]

Like I've said before. There's nothing about the Heat right now that calls for this level of dooming. Folks sound like Hornets fans on here sometimes. They're clamoring for SUMMER LEAGUE CHAMPION shirts right now because that's the closest they've ever got to a ring. We've made it to 3 conference finals and two nba finals in the last 5 years. Plus the 3 rings and ECFs and finals appearances before that. These two franchises came into the league at the same time.

I mean to be fair, the OG Hornets franchise started off hot, but Pat Riley changed the fate of both franchises when he traded for Zo. Did you know that Pat Riley has been in a non-coaching role with the Heat far longer than he was the coach? He has been out of the game for a while now. I think that is a big reason why the franchise is starting to decline. Pat Riley is irreplaceable, but he is also up there in years and 15+ years removed from the game. Add to that the fact that Spo has been one of the longest active coaches in the league and he is showing burnout as well and you can start to see why people aren’t happy with the direction the franchise is heading.

I mean, Pat is going to have to retire eventually. Time comes to everyone. But I really don't understand the idea the franchise has declined. I feel its more like fans take their team for granted. Most Heat fans have never had to experience your team being **** for 5, 10, maybe 15 years. And I'm not talking play in, I'm talking high lottery ****. Getting blown out every other game, no allstars, a constant cycle of coaches coming in and out, maybe 1 pick every decade turns into something, so you gotta cling to that guy for your life so big markets don't snatch him up. Just look at darn near other team in the east outside the Celtics. Can you imagine being the Magic? The Hawks? The Wizards? The 76ers? Detroit? Hell, with Bucks and Cleveland most of their success is in the last decade or so, out of like 60 years of existence.

The Heat are in an alright state. They're building their picks back and they're developing players. They have 2 allstar level players still in their 20s. They'll soon have cap space and flexibility once Rozier expires. They have options, and sooner or later they'll build another contender or make another deep playoff run. Because that's what they do.

I don’t have an issue with a team being bad. I have an issue with a team treadmilling. The earlier days of the Heat always had a plan. Whether it was build around Zo, tank for Lebron, open cap space for Odom, or sign lebron/Bosh. There was always a plan. Then after the Lebron era, the team just started missing out on free agents and wasn’t tanking to get a high pick either. Undrafted picks like Drob, Bumpy, and Whiteside became consolation prizes and the team did nothing. Getting Jimmy was a huge add, but the team did not get him what he needed to win the championship. Lowry was a huge bust. Now here we are and the franchise seems lost. Maybe I am wrong, maybe the Heat get a whale. But I am not seeing much in the realm of building a team to compete for a championship, just a doubling down on a historically bad playoff team.

[HeatGuyInChicago]

According to Dan Lebatard, Riley has mostly been a figure head for the past few years. The team making decisions consists of Nick Arison, Adam Simon, Eric Spoelstra, and Andy Elisburg. Riley takes the heat for the moves, pun unintended.

Nick contributes from a profit/loss point of view.
Andy manages the salary cap.
Adam scouting and talent acquisition.
Eric manages team cohesion and fit.

[HeatGuyInChicago]

Has anyone heard Nick Arison speak? I wonder how many decisions were vetoed by him for money reasons?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Buyout market might be crazy this summer/year lol.

[Kobewade11]

According to Dan Lebatard, Riley has mostly been a figure head for the past few years. The team making decisions consists of Nick Arison, Adam Simon, Eric Spoelstra, and Andy Elisburg. Riley takes the heat for the moves, pun unintended.

Nick contributes from a profit/loss point of view.
Andy manages the salary cap.
Adam scouting and talent acquisition.
Eric manages team cohesion and fit.

Several reporters have spoken of this structure going back to (and even before) the Jimmy acquisition

[Enso]

Someone’s gotta come out and squash the rozier smart story cause that’s dumb af lol I don’t believe it how was it not a good move they’re both expiring and Rozier is a cancer who’s under investigation. Doesn’t make sense.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Someone’s gotta come out and squash the rozier smart story cause that’s dumb af lol I don’t believe it how was it not a good move they’re both expiring and Rozier is a cancer who’s under investigation. Doesn’t make sense.

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[Enso]

Interesting, what would it of cost a second or two ? I think that’s worth off loading rozier it’s addition by subtraction and if smart would of panned out then even better.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Sam Presti is the top GM right now I would assume after winning the Championship. The team is setup financially for the next 3 years.

Year Wins Loses Pct Playoff Results
2024-25 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder* 68 14 .829 Won Finals
2023-24 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder* 57 25 .695 Lost W. Conf. Semis
2022-23 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder 40 42 .488
2021-22 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder 24 58 .293
2020-21 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder 22 50 .306

Sam Presti's did a great job. He transitioned Oklahoma City from the Russell Westbrook era to the SGA era. It took 2 very bad seasons for Oklahoma to accomplish it. I believe they are in position to contend for 3 more years before the CBA comes calling where it makes it too expensive to contend.

Presti making Pat look bad.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Interesting, what would it of cost a second or two ? I think that’s worth off loading rozier it’s addition by subtraction and if smart would of panned out then even better.

I think there is also the timing of it all. Heat are probably still exploring their options with Rozier for what they think are more impactful players than Smart (Vucevic, DeRozan, etc.).

[Kobewade11]

Interesting, what would it of cost a second or two ? I think that’s worth off loading rozier it’s addition by subtraction and if smart would of panned out then even better.

At this point I don't think they want to give up any assets to unload an expiring deal..particularly somebody who hasn't shown to be problematic in the locker room like some other guys. Just hope something materializes by ASB or thank him for his services at the end of the season.

[contract]

According to Dan Lebatard, Riley has mostly been a figure head for the past few years. The team making decisions consists of Nick Arison, Adam Simon, Eric Spoelstra, and Andy Elisburg. Riley takes the heat for the moves, pun unintended.

Nick contributes from a profit/loss point of view.
Andy manages the salary cap.
Adam scouting and talent acquisition.
Eric manages team cohesion and fit.

No one is going to convince me that Pat Riley accepted a demotion to figure head.

[contract]

Has anyone heard Nick Arison speak? I wonder how many decisions were vetoed by him for money reasons?

The Heat have paid luxury tax the past two seasons for teams that weren't very good. I doubt that he's vetoed any decision for money reasons.

[twix2500]

Sam Presti is the top GM right now I would assume after winning the Championship. The team is setup financially for the next 3 years.

Year Wins Loses Pct Playoff Results
2024-25 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder* 68 14 .829 Won Finals
2023-24 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder* 57 25 .695 Lost W. Conf. Semis
2022-23 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder 40 42 .488
2021-22 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder 24 58 .293
2020-21 NBA Oklahoma City Thunder 22 50 .306

Sam Presti's did a great job. He transitioned Oklahoma City from the Russell Westbrook era to the SGA era. It took 2 very bad seasons for Oklahoma to accomplish it. I believe they are in position to contend for 3 more years before the CBA comes calling where it makes it too expensive to contend.

Presti making Pat look bad.

Riley is not a GM.

[twix2500]

I am sure Kuminga is a target. I believe Spo may have gotten good intel on his talent through Kerr. I believe this is a piece the Heat are slowly monitoring and holding for. Biggest obstacle is the contract.

I think the Heat are willing to wait until the preseason before they make a different move

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