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Post#1861 » by ACMFFL » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:03 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:People will move on at their pace, and IMO, people should never forget Nico Harrison is a scumbag, and should root for his ousting, how each strives to do this is his own decision.
I think the people of Dallas handled it with dignity and showed Luka they appreciate him, and will continue to do so, I wouldn't call their behaviour toxicity, they never badmouthed ot booed any of the players, to the contrary, they cheered them and emraced them, including AD.


Well, my rant is about the people on the internet, not the people of Dallas.

Is it really too much to ask fans to be objective and unbiased? Because that was the main point of my post that somehow you and my follow 41Dirk41 missed.

Also is it an hard task to put aside all the toxicity and negativity and focus on the good of the team? I mean, everyone on Planet Earth knows that Harrison is a piece of ****, if he had made any more stupid moves this offseason, then I would have understood and supported criticisms and hostility towards the FO. But that's not the case cause objectively it has been a nice offseason.
It's pointless to keep complaining about what happened 6 freaking months ago, it's a futile exercise and just a waste of time.


I don't see the "Fire Nico" everyday here, the board has been discussing Mavs off season, mere mention of Luka getting in shape had some people here flip out, and sorry, Luka will be discussed for the next 20 years in Mavs land, he was very important and he still plays, just like Nash leaving was relitigated 1000 times.
If we really have toxicity problem then I suggest ignoring posts about Luka, if there is no interest, they will die quickly.


Cmon man, I can't even count 10 active users on this board. Ofc I'm talking about Twitter and Reddit, in fact that's why I posted something about that miserable sub.
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Post#1862 » by ACMFFL » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:05 pm

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We're talking about selling top 3 player in the world and not for record money like it happens in Europe, where btw. players goes where and when they want to go. But selling top 3 player in the world in his prime and getting back 6 years older player in the last phase of his career.


Money doesnt go in fans pockets lol they'd rather swap an established star for a young player than sell players for cash.
In Europe there are contracts too, players cant go where they want, they need to be sold or hit FA. And btw in the 1980's there still wasnt the Bossman law that changed the landscape of football market in Europe.


I don't understand what happened in 86 with Maradona? He was in Napoli then and stayed in Napoli.


Dude, you were the one who brought in that hypotetic scenario :lol:
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Post#1863 » by Bob8 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:07 pm

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Money doesnt go in fans pockets lol they'd rather swap an established star for a young player than sell players for cash.
In Europe there are contracts too, players cant go where they want, they need to be sold or hit FA. And btw in the 1980's there still wasnt the Bossman law that changed the landscape of football market in Europe.


I don't understand what happened in 86 with Maradona? He was in Napoli then and stayed in Napoli.


Dude, you were the one who brought in that hypotetic scenario :lol:


Maradona for Baggio? What are you talking about? I said Naples would have been burned down, if they sold Maradona.
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Post#1864 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:09 pm

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arkuo wrote:Mavs have a new team president. Supposedly some guy that was formerly employed by Minnesota. Whether that is a good or bad thing, we'll find out.

Was initially confused. I thought that was the position of the Welts guy. Apparently different functions.

Interested to see how they plan to do this.

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What? But i've read here that just 1 or 2 guys aren't happy about Mavs situation :lol: :lol: :lol:
The majority of the fanbase were excited! Or maybe not :lol: :lol: :lol:

I told you guys, nobody can change the past but fire Harrison is the only way to fix the fracture from fans and organization... His time here is done, first bad Mavs stint or heavy street clothes injury and he will be out.

Hang on guys. It's almost over.
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Post#1865 » by ACMFFL » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:09 pm

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I don't understand what happened in 86 with Maradona? He was in Napoli then and stayed in Napoli.


Dude, you were the one who brought in that hypotetic scenario :lol:


Maradona for Baggio? What are you talking about?


Cmon man, dont do it.
I just brought in a more appropriate version of your hypothetical example.
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Post#1866 » by Bob8 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:13 pm

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Dude, you were the one who brought in that hypotetic scenario :lol:


Maradona for Baggio? What are you talking about?


Cmon man, dont do it.
I just brought in a more appropriate version of your hypothetical example.


Nico traded for AD not for Flagg. Flagg has nothing with the trade and was pure luck. Ok maybe AD helped getting him with getting injured in his first game and Nico's master plan was getting a player, who is always hurt and consequently burning Kyrie to the ground and hoping he gets injured too. :lol:

The right hypothetical scenario would be trading Maradona for old and injured Ronaldo from Brazil without knees. The age is not right but comparison is.
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Post#1867 » by Archx » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:14 pm

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Yeah, I'm honestly sick and tired of this mood and attitude within the fanbase.
It's now time to pick a choice:
1) move on, just like Luka did, and jump on the LAL bandwagon;
2) stay a Mavs fan, cheer for these players (who did nothing wrong to deserve to play for a toxic fanbase) and objectively judge FO's moves without any bias.

I mean just look at this garbage posted on the most pathetic place on the internet today, Mavs Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1mb4rwt/he_was_supposed_to_have_a_statue/

What's the point in bringing in Flagg on that kind of video?
All the other 29 fanbases would have been thrilled and super excited about adding Cooper on their team, but not this one, we rather throw Flagg under the bus after 1 SL game because some so-called Mavs fans decided that nothing good can't happen to this franchise anymore, I guess they love to feel miserable.


I think you're severely overreacting. Mavs fanbase is unhappy with Nico because this team would have a top3 MVP candidate in his prime and perfect players built around him. Nico decided to postpone that for the next like 5 or more years. I didn't see a single post around the internet that said "Don't pick Flagg we hate him" or something like that.

You have to understand that until Nico is with Mavs, fans will be pissed off. You see trucks around Dallas having their license plates named "Fire Nico" or murals with the same writing on them. All in all, getting Flagg was some kind of a miracle, if we can call it like that, but at the end of the day Nico has done an unthinkable thing to this team.

Go tell Dirk to stop pouting and get back to Mavs games if you dare :D ... Yeah, it's that bad, but has nothing to do with the players or Flagg himself. And this is why some posters here still can't understand why 99% of Mavs fanbase is unhappy, it's not the team, it's the people in the background.

First off there is not a large amount of fans in Dallas still screaming “Fire Nico”. You may get 1 or 2 people (probably even the same guy) at an event saying that. Just because you saw 1 guy on Twitter with that plate doesn’t mean there are thousands of people in Dallas with that license plate.

As for Dirk, he isn’t constantly crying that Luka got traded. He did what I suggested a couple of fans here should do and that’s just step away from basketball for a little while if you hate what the Mavs are doing. Why put yourself through such anguish and turmoil? When the team starts contending again Dirk will be welcomed back. No hard feelings if you step away for a while.


You have fans in other arenas chanting "Fire Nico"... Look it up on ytube, we already went through this some time ago.

I don't know how much German you speak but if you do, look up the interview named "Die Basketball Welt ist schockiert“ - Ein Family Gespräch mit Dirk Nowitzki

Dirk Nowitzki had a German podcast with his sister Silke for his foundation. He - numerous times - calls the trade "insanity". Says he was about going to lunch when he heard about it and skipped lunch to sit in his hotel room for 1 hour.

And also, you just posted a Twitter post from the new Mavs president saying his Nr1 priority is to make sure Mavs fanbase heals and moves on. So you're basically contradicting with yourself now, because apparently there is not only 1 guy on twitter who is unhappy with Nico.
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Post#1868 » by ACMFFL » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:26 pm

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Maradona for Baggio? What are you talking about?


Cmon man, dont do it.
I just brought in a more appropriate version of your hypothetical example.


Nico traded for AD not for Flagg. Flagg has nothing with the trade and was pure luck. Ok maybe AD helped getting him with getting injured in his first game and Nico's master plan was getting a player, who is always hurt and consequently burning Kyrie to the ground and hoping he gets injured too. :lol:

The right hypothetical scenario would be trading Maradona for old and injured Ronaldo from Brazil without knees. The age is not right but comparison is.


Nope, the right hypothetical scenario is still prime Maradona for young Baggio, I dont care if the transaction isnt direct, or even if you still believe in fairy tales (and hence in pure luck), that's the proper comparison.
Just to make you feel better: Maradona sold for money in the 1986 January and then replaced six months later with 18 years old Roby Baggio. That's even better and more appropriate.

And believe me, even they sold prime Maradona for money, city would still be there without any murder, maybe they would have set on fire some cars but that's it.
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Post#1869 » by Bob8 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:30 pm

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Was Giannis an athletic freak when he entered the league? Uhm wat?
Jesus Christ we are talking about a 18 years old kid, you're acting like he's a finished product.

That's just your speculation, man. Sorry but I dont give it so much credit.


He was athletic freak when Kidd gave him the ball.

So what are expectations for generational talent Flagg in few years time? To play great D and be 3rd option in offense?


Who knows? Sky's the limit for this kid. Just to make it clear before Luka's biggest fans assault me: no, he ain't Luka, but I still see as an AD/JT level of prospect in him.


AD was another level prospect. I aspected even better career from him. I see far more Banchero in him. I believe college is pretty bad for evaluating players. Vast majority of college players are not good enough to play any kind of professional basketball and then you have big differences in physical development. Flagg is one of the more physically developed kids, which for sure helped in college, but it simultaneously means that his room for improvement in that department is smaller.
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Post#1870 » by Bob8 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:34 pm

ACMFFL wrote:
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ACMFFL wrote:
Cmon man, dont do it.
I just brought in a more appropriate version of your hypothetical example.


Nico traded for AD not for Flagg. Flagg has nothing with the trade and was pure luck. Ok maybe AD helped getting him with getting injured in his first game and Nico's master plan was getting a player, who is always hurt and consequently burning Kyrie to the ground and hoping he gets injured too. :lol:

The right hypothetical scenario would be trading Maradona for old and injured Ronaldo from Brazil without knees. The age is not right but comparison is.


Nope, the right hypothetical scenario is still prime Maradona for young Baggio, I dont care if the transaction isnt direct, or even if you still believe in fairy tales (and hence in pure luck), that's the proper comparison.
Just to make you feel better: Maradona sold for money in the 1986 January and then replaced six months later with 18 years old Roby Baggio. That's even better and more appropriate.

And believe me, even they sold prime Maradona for money, city would still be there without any murder, maybe they would have set on fire some cars but that's it.


Ok, I see you believe in rigged lottery. :lol: You should told me before, we wouldn't lose al this time.
People should understand that 1.8% is a small chance of winning, but not that small. It not like getting Euro jackpot. Do you play poker? Similar **** happens all the time.

If you believe in rigged lottery, you believe in rigged injuries too, no way that Mavs don't make playoffs with healthy roster.

No way Napoli management stays a week. There would be pretty serious threats against life. They would "happily" resign in few days.
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Post#1871 » by Teffer10 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:42 pm

Archx wrote:
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I think you're severely overreacting. Mavs fanbase is unhappy with Nico because this team would have a top3 MVP candidate in his prime and perfect players built around him. Nico decided to postpone that for the next like 5 or more years. I didn't see a single post around the internet that said "Don't pick Flagg we hate him" or something like that.

You have to understand that until Nico is with Mavs, fans will be pissed off. You see trucks around Dallas having their license plates named "Fire Nico" or murals with the same writing on them. All in all, getting Flagg was some kind of a miracle, if we can call it like that, but at the end of the day Nico has done an unthinkable thing to this team.

Go tell Dirk to stop pouting and get back to Mavs games if you dare :D ... Yeah, it's that bad, but has nothing to do with the players or Flagg himself. And this is why some posters here still can't understand why 99% of Mavs fanbase is unhappy, it's not the team, it's the people in the background.

First off there is not a large amount of fans in Dallas still screaming “Fire Nico”. You may get 1 or 2 people (probably even the same guy) at an event saying that. Just because you saw 1 guy on Twitter with that plate doesn’t mean there are thousands of people in Dallas with that license plate.

As for Dirk, he isn’t constantly crying that Luka got traded. He did what I suggested a couple of fans here should do and that’s just step away from basketball for a little while if you hate what the Mavs are doing. Why put yourself through such anguish and turmoil? When the team starts contending again Dirk will be welcomed back. No hard feelings if you step away for a while.


You have fans in other arenas chanting "Fire Nico"... Look it up on ytube, we already went through this some time ago.

I don't know how much German you speak but if you do, look up the interview named "Die Basketball Welt ist schockiert“ - Ein Family Gespräch mit Dirk Nowitzki

Dirk Nowitzki had a German podcast with his sister Silke for his foundation. He - numerous times - calls the trade "insanity". Says he was about going to lunch when he heard about it and skipped lunch to sit in his hotel room for 1 hour.

And also, you just posted a Twitter post from the new Mavs president saying his Nr1 priority is to make sure Mavs fanbase heals and moves on. So you're basically contradicting with yourself now, because apparently there is not only 1 guy on twitter who is unhappy with Nico.

Nico should be fired for trading Luka, period.

However, I'm giving him one chance for redemption THIS season to prove to the thousands of fans who think he should be that he shouldn't. The bar is getting to the championship, Kyrie or no Kyrie. He built a championship caliber team and then destroyed it in one move. If that isn't insanity then I don't know what is and is beyond justification for being fired.

It's pretty much binary for me....get to the finals and you keep your job, no finals and your gone. He set the bar for himself and now he has to live up to it as far as this fan is concerned.
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Post#1872 » by ACMFFL » Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:46 pm

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He was athletic freak when Kidd gave him the ball.

So what are expectations for generational talent Flagg in few years time? To play great D and be 3rd option in offense?


Who knows? Sky's the limit for this kid. Just to make it clear before Luka's biggest fans assault me: no, he ain't Luka, but I still see as an AD/JT level of prospect in him.


AD was another level prospect. I aspected even better career from him. I see far more Banchero in him. I believe college is pretty bad for evaluating players. Vast majority of college players are players not good enough to play any kind of professional basketball and then you have big differences in physical development. Flagg is one of the more physically developed kids, which for sure helped in college, but it simultaneously means that his room for improvement in that department is smaller.


Banchero as his floor isn't exactly a bad outcome, I don't actually see the comparison cause they are very different tho.
You insist on making all about his physicality, let's not act like mere physical tools are what set him apart from the others.
Also I genuinely still dont get why you're so adamant about his physical development, he's not even 19 yet, cribbio.
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Post#1873 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 9:55 pm

Teffer10 wrote:
Archx wrote:
Mr B wrote:First off there is not a large amount of fans in Dallas still screaming “Fire Nico”. You may get 1 or 2 people (probably even the same guy) at an event saying that. Just because you saw 1 guy on Twitter with that plate doesn’t mean there are thousands of people in Dallas with that license plate.

As for Dirk, he isn’t constantly crying that Luka got traded. He did what I suggested a couple of fans here should do and that’s just step away from basketball for a little while if you hate what the Mavs are doing. Why put yourself through such anguish and turmoil? When the team starts contending again Dirk will be welcomed back. No hard feelings if you step away for a while.


You have fans in other arenas chanting "Fire Nico"... Look it up on ytube, we already went through this some time ago.

I don't know how much German you speak but if you do, look up the interview named "Die Basketball Welt ist schockiert“ - Ein Family Gespräch mit Dirk Nowitzki

Dirk Nowitzki had a German podcast with his sister Silke for his foundation. He - numerous times - calls the trade "insanity". Says he was about going to lunch when he heard about it and skipped lunch to sit in his hotel room for 1 hour.

And also, you just posted a Twitter post from the new Mavs president saying his Nr1 priority is to make sure Mavs fanbase heals and moves on. So you're basically contradicting with yourself now, because apparently there is not only 1 guy on twitter who is unhappy with Nico.

Nico should be fired for trading Luka, period.

However, I'm giving him one chance for redemption THIS season to prove to the thousands of fans who think he should be that he shouldn't. The bar is getting to the championship, Kyrie or no Kyrie. He built a championship caliber team and then destroyed it in one move. If that isn't insanity then I don't know what is and is beyond justification for being fired.

It's pretty much binary for me....get to the finals and you keep your job, no finals and your gone. He set the bar for himself and now he has to live up to it as far as this fan is concerned.


Agree. It's very simple for me too.

No way Harrison has a 6 year window or something like that.
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Post#1874 » by ACMFFL » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:05 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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Bob8 wrote:
Nico traded for AD not for Flagg. Flagg has nothing with the trade and was pure luck. Ok maybe AD helped getting him with getting injured in his first game and Nico's master plan was getting a player, who is always hurt and consequently burning Kyrie to the ground and hoping he gets injured too. :lol:

The right hypothetical scenario would be trading Maradona for old and injured Ronaldo from Brazil without knees. The age is not right but comparison is.


Nope, the right hypothetical scenario is still prime Maradona for young Baggio, I dont care if the transaction isnt direct, or even if you still believe in fairy tales (and hence in pure luck), that's the proper comparison.
Just to make you feel better: Maradona sold for money in the 1986 January and then replaced six months later with 18 years old Roby Baggio. That's even better and more appropriate.

And believe me, even they sold prime Maradona for money, city would still be there without any murder, maybe they would have set on fire some cars but that's it.


Ok, I see you believe in rigged lottery. :lol: You should told me before, we wouldn't lose al this time.
People should understand that 1.8% is a small chance of winning, but not that small. It not like getting Euro jackpot. Do you play poker? Similar **** happens all the time.

If you believe in rigged lottery, you believe in rigged injuries too, no way that Mavs don't make playoffs with healthy roster.

No way Napoli management stays a week. There would be pretty serious threats against life. They would "happily" resign in few days.


Well, I didn't expect Kyrie ACL but neither that he would have lasted all the season long carrying the Mavs considering how many minutes he was playing.
But even then, did you actually think that Davis-less Mavs (out until 3-24) had any chance to surpass Minnie/GSW and Memphis in the standing? Reality is they were play-in bound since AD went down.

And now tell why Napoli management was still there after they sold Higuain (not Diego level of love but still an undisputed hero within the fanbase at the time) to their biggest rival.
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Post#1875 » by Bob8 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:15 pm

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Nope, the right hypothetical scenario is still prime Maradona for young Baggio, I dont care if the transaction isnt direct, or even if you still believe in fairy tales (and hence in pure luck), that's the proper comparison.
Just to make you feel better: Maradona sold for money in the 1986 January and then replaced six months later with 18 years old Roby Baggio. That's even better and more appropriate.

And believe me, even they sold prime Maradona for money, city would still be there without any murder, maybe they would have set on fire some cars but that's it.


Ok, I see you believe in rigged lottery. :lol: You should told me before, we wouldn't lose al this time.
People should understand that 1.8% is a small chance of winning, but not that small. It not like getting Euro jackpot. Do you play poker? Similar **** happens all the time.

If you believe in rigged lottery, you believe in rigged injuries too, no way that Mavs don't make playoffs with healthy roster.

No way Napoli management stays a week. There would be pretty serious threats against life. They would "happily" resign in few days.


Well, I didn't expect Kyrie ACL but neither that he would have lasted all the season long carrying the Mavs considering how many minutes he was playing.
But even then, did you actually think that Davis-less Mavs (out until 3-24) had any chance to surpass Minnie/GSW and Memphis? Reality is they were play-in bound since AD went down.

And now tell why Napoli management was still there after they sold Higuain (not Diego level of love but still an undisputed hero within the fanbase at the time) to their biggest rival.


The problem is that nobody expected, even the biggest AD haters, that he would get injured in his first game for Mavs. When Luka got traded for AD, Nico couldn't expected he would be out that long. So Nba couldn't promised him Flagg. Or are you saying that conspiracy theory is going even deeper and AD going down immediately was always the plan?

It's kinda funny that they fought till last game to make playoffs, bringing everyone back in the end of the season, they were basically 1 win away of not getting Flagg. Very strange tactics for someone, who has been promised to get #1 pick.

Higuain was sold because Juventus has paid his buyout clause and of course because he wanted to leave, not much Napoli could do about. They got insane amount of money for him at least.

So yes clubs selling their best players, which are loved by fans, are among the best in the world, in their prime and doesn't want to leave, is a big anomaly everywhere in the world.
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Post#1876 » by Bob8 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:19 pm

ACMFFL wrote:
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Who knows? Sky's the limit for this kid. Just to make it clear before Luka's biggest fans assault me: no, he ain't Luka, but I still see as an AD/JT level of prospect in him.


AD was another level prospect. I aspected even better career from him. I see far more Banchero in him. I believe college is pretty bad for evaluating players. Vast majority of college players are players not good enough to play any kind of professional basketball and then you have big differences in physical development. Flagg is one of the more physically developed kids, which for sure helped in college, but it simultaneously means that his room for improvement in that department is smaller.


Banchero as his floor isn't exactly a bad outcome, I don't actually see the comparison cause they are very different tho.
You insist on making all about his physicality, let's not act like mere physical tools are what set him apart from the others.
Also I genuinely still dont get why you're so adamant about his physical development, he's not even 19 yet, cribbio.


I honestly don't know how he will look in Nba, but his physical tools were for sure crucial for his college dominance. If he develops handles and a jumper he might really become generational player, now he is just a very good prospect.
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Post#1877 » by ACMFFL » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:30 pm

Bob8 wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Ok, I see you believe in rigged lottery. :lol: You should told me before, we wouldn't lose al this time.
People should understand that 1.8% is a small chance of winning, but not that small. It not like getting Euro jackpot. Do you play poker? Similar **** happens all the time.

If you believe in rigged lottery, you believe in rigged injuries too, no way that Mavs don't make playoffs with healthy roster.

No way Napoli management stays a week. There would be pretty serious threats against life. They would "happily" resign in few days.


Well, I didn't expect Kyrie ACL but neither that he would have lasted all the season long carrying the Mavs considering how many minutes he was playing.
But even then, did you actually think that Davis-less Mavs (out until 3-24) had any chance to surpass Minnie/GSW and Memphis? Reality is they were play-in bound since AD went down.

And now tell why Napoli management was still there after they sold Higuain (not Diego level of love but still an undisputed hero within the fanbase at the time) to their biggest rival.


The problem is that nobody expected, even the biggest AD haters, that he would get injured in his first game for Mavs. When Luka got traded for AD, Nico couldn't expected he would be out that long. So Nba couldn't promised him Flagg. Or are you saying that conspiracy theory is going even deeper and AD going down immediately was always the plan?

Higuain was sold because Juventus has paid his buyout clause and of course because he wanted to leave, not much Napoli could do about.


Man, did you even realize that AD was already injured when they acquired him..?

Then you don't know how De Laurentis, Napoli owner, operates on the market. He was more than happy to sell Higuain and make all of that money, and Napoli fans knew it already. Buyout clause or not, he would have soldi Higuain anyway for that kind of money.

Fun fact: Maradona could have joined Milan superteam in the late 1980's, Berlusconi was basically collecting all the best talents in Europe and Ferlaino (Napoli pres at the time) had zero problem in selling to Milan, actually Napoli was pretty broken, but Diego didn't want to leave.
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Post#1878 » by Bob8 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:34 pm

ACMFFL wrote:
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Well, I didn't expect Kyrie ACL but neither that he would have lasted all the season long carrying the Mavs considering how many minutes he was playing.
But even then, did you actually think that Davis-less Mavs (out until 3-24) had any chance to surpass Minnie/GSW and Memphis? Reality is they were play-in bound since AD went down.

And now tell why Napoli management was still there after they sold Higuain (not Diego level of love but still an undisputed hero within the fanbase at the time) to their biggest rival.


The problem is that nobody expected, even the biggest AD haters, that he would get injured in his first game for Mavs. When Luka got traded for AD, Nico couldn't expected he would be out that long. So Nba couldn't promised him Flagg. Or are you saying that conspiracy theory is going even deeper and AD going down immediately was always the plan?

Higuain was sold because Juventus has paid his buyout clause and of course because he wanted to leave, not much Napoli could do about.


Man, did you even realize that AD was already injured when they acquired him..?

Then you don't know how De Laurentis, Napoli owner, operates on the market. He was more than happy to sell Higuain and make all of that money, and Napoli fans knew it already. Buyout clause or not, he would have soldi Higuain anyway for that kind of money.

Fun fact: Maradona could have joined Milan superteam in the late 1980's, Berlusconi was basically collecting all the best talents in Europe and Ferlaino (Napoli pres at the time) had zero problem in selling to Milan, actually Napoli was pretty broken, but Diego didn't want to leave.


So they forced him to play to insure he gets long term injury?

You can't do anything against buyout clause, especially if a player wants to leave. Higuain wanted to leave.

You're looking at wrong direction. You should find a case where one of the best players in the world, who's in his prime, who even brought big success to the club only few months before and is beloved by fans, doesn't want to leave and is sold without him even knowing anything about trade. Chances for something like that happens are a lot lower than 1.8%. I don't know if something like that ever happened in Nba before. You need shoe salesman and ignorant stupid owner, who doesn't know anything about basketball and is playing with his wife's family money. Pretty rare combination.
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Post#1879 » by ACMFFL » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:42 pm

Bob8 wrote:
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The problem is that nobody expected, even the biggest AD haters, that he would get injured in his first game for Mavs. When Luka got traded for AD, Nico couldn't expected he would be out that long. So Nba couldn't promised him Flagg. Or are you saying that conspiracy theory is going even deeper and AD going down immediately was always the plan?

Higuain was sold because Juventus has paid his buyout clause and of course because he wanted to leave, not much Napoli could do about.


Man, did you even realize that AD was already injured when they acquired him..?

Then you don't know how De Laurentis, Napoli owner, operates on the market. He was more than happy to sell Higuain and make all of that money, and Napoli fans knew it already. Buyout clause or not, he would have soldi Higuain anyway for that kind of money.

Fun fact: Maradona could have joined Milan superteam in the late 1980's, Berlusconi was basically collecting all the best talents in Europe and Ferlaino (Napoli pres at the time) had zero problem in selling to Milan, actually Napoli was pretty broken, but Diego didn't want to leave.


You can't do anything against buyout clause, especially if a player wants to leave. Higuain wanted to leave.


You still missing the point, Napoli would have sold him anyway, even with no buy-out clause.
Also clause or not, in the end Napoli sold their best player/fans idol to their bitter rival, and nothing bad happened in the city, nobody lost his life nor his job.
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Post#1880 » by Bob8 » Tue Jul 29, 2025 10:48 pm

ACMFFL wrote:
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Man, did you even realize that AD was already injured when they acquired him..?

Then you don't know how De Laurentis, Napoli owner, operates on the market. He was more than happy to sell Higuain and make all of that money, and Napoli fans knew it already. Buyout clause or not, he would have soldi Higuain anyway for that kind of money.

Fun fact: Maradona could have joined Milan superteam in the late 1980's, Berlusconi was basically collecting all the best talents in Europe and Ferlaino (Napoli pres at the time) had zero problem in selling to Milan, actually Napoli was pretty broken, but Diego didn't want to leave.


You can't do anything against buyout clause, especially if a player wants to leave. Higuain wanted to leave.


You still missing the point, Napoli would have sold him anyway, even with no buy-out clause.
Also clause or not, in the end Napoli sold their best player/fans idol to their bitter rival, and nothing bad happened in the city, nobody lost his life nor his job.


Higuain wanted out, that was the first and the most important step. Second was activating insane, for those times, buyout clouse, against which Napoli couldn't do anything. It was game over no matter what owner or management did. So I don't understand on who should fans be angry about? Higuain I guess. I doubt very much that fans would be rioting against Nico, if Luka was the one, who wanted out. Luka is special case because he genuinely wanted to play the whole career in Dallas. He was shocked about the trade. They traded away 34/10/9 player in his prime, who brought them in Finals, which is not exactly what Mavs are doing constantly. That's insane.

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