DreamTeam09 wrote:it's not bad because i disagree with you, its bad b/c your logic is all over the place, you are clearly under the impression that a go to scorer is the end all be all to good basketball? Or only go to scorers should have a high usage, you admit that we have better scoring options around him (which is purposely done, because like yourself, mgmt has recognized we need more scoring around barnes & traded Pascal & OG for SCORERS for the most part) Now you are advocating for him to be less of a facilitator for this current group? That doesn't make sense, we have 2 scorers better than scottie in BI/IQ & I would much rather those two be play finishers than orchestrators, although I wouldn't limit them to never facilitating just like I wouldn't put limitations on 24yrs just finishing their rookie scale contracts.
I think you've missed the point.
There is a material end to his value as a facilitator, eating possessions, when he can't make the defense pay with his scoring. That's an archetype with a fairly fixed ceiling in this era. Like, I am very happy to see him handling the ball in transition, as I've repeatedly noted. What I don't want to see is a lot of him running PnR and otherwise trying to initiate in the halfcourt, because he'll have to bail out as a scoring option a lot and he's bad at it, and we have guys who do a far better job of live-dribble attack in both RJ (who at least draws more fouls and creates more shots at the rim) and BI (who is better at everything offensively, except for perhaps being comparable as a playmaker).
So Scottie's offensive value is somewhat limited, particularly in those halfcourt sets. He's pretty simplistic attacking from the point and in order to give him a bunch of playmaking possessions OTHER than transition, we have to put him into all the sets where he is at his worst, which isn't sound strategy for a skillset which we have repeated in other players. Between Quick, RJ and BI, we don't have a strong need to put the ball into Barnes' hands outside of transition. None of them are savant playmakers either, but all of them are more dangerous scoring threats, which changes the way the defense reacts to them.
I thought this was clear earlier, so I wasn't repeating myself, because this is a subject which has been coming up for years. Point Scottie isn't a super useful thing unless he meaningfully moves the D, which he isn't very good at.
I have, ITT, said that he can be useful to us if he isn't a go-to scorer, but if he keeps scoring as crappily as he has to date in his career, it also means we shouldn't be running a lot of playmaking possessions through him outside of transition, TL;DR.
whatever that means, your synopsis of things is really bad or pessimistic.
