2024-25 NBA Season Discussion

[parsnips33]

Could Wemby break D Rose record this year?

Don't think it's the most likely scenario, but I could see it

[AEnigma]

Could Wemby break D Rose record this year?

Don't think it's the most likely scenario, but I could see it

Tough to see him winning MVP over Jokic or Shai barring a phenomenal offseason leap, but he is once again the prohibitive favourite to win Defensive Player of the Year.

[RCM88x]

Could Wemby break D Rose record this year?

Don't think it's the most likely scenario, but I could see it

Tough to see him winning MVP over Jokic or Shai barring a phenomenal offseason leap, but he is once again the prohibitive favourite to win Defensive Player of the Year.

Spurs would likely have to be a 55+ win top 3 seed too which I think is equally as tall of a task.

[Special_Puppy]

Could Wemby break D Rose record this year?

Don't think it's the most likely scenario, but I could see it

Tough to see him winning MVP over Jokic or Shai barring a phenomenal offseason leap, but he is once again the prohibitive favourite to win Defensive Player of the Year.

Spurs would likely have to be a 55+ win top 3 seed too which I think is equally as tall of a task.

I could see Wemby winning MVP with only 49 wins if he’s truly playing at strong MVP levels

[tsherkin]

I could see Wemby winning MVP with only 49 wins if he’s truly playing at strong MVP levels

Post-Steph MVPs have been, in reverse order: 68, 57, 54, 48, 47, 56, 60, 65 and 47 wins.

It's possible, but he better REALLY be putting up a crazy performance, and it's very much less likely if OKC is crushing it again and if Denver is north of 50 wins, etc, etc. He's going to have crazy stiff competition, and his team isn't exactly a stunner at either end of the floor at the moment.

[Special_Puppy]

You might have seen the recent scandal post so I want to come clean: despite being 6’6 I have never dunked a basketball before. I would accept any penalty mods think is appropriate

[sp6r=underrated]

You might have seen the recent scandal post so I want to come clean: despite being 6’6 I have never dunked a basketball before. I would accept any penalty mods think is appropriate

[tsherkin]

You might have seen the recent scandal post so I want to come clean: despite being 6’6 I have never dunked a basketball before. I would accept any penalty mods think is appropriate

*waves cane*

In my youth, I could do simple dunks at 6'2!

But only in transition, never in traffic. :~(

[jjgp111292]

You might have seen the recent scandal post so I want to come clean: despite being 6’6 I have never dunked a basketball before. I would accept any penalty mods think is appropriate

I have a confession to make as well: despite sharing a last name and a passing resemblance to him, I am not in fact a relative of Chris Paul. My mom however, did date Bernard King and my older brother was in Carmelo Anthony's pre-school class, so by some transitive property I have some ownership over the Knicks' top two scoring games.

[eminence]

Buncha tall bastards.

[Tim Lehrbach]

<-- Nerf hoop destroyer

[parsnips33]

You might have seen the recent scandal post so I want to come clean: despite being 6’6 I have never dunked a basketball before. I would accept any penalty mods think is appropriate

I hereby sentence you to be the Warriors starting center. Hope you can set a screen

[tsherkin]

You might have seen the recent scandal post so I want to come clean: despite being 6’6 I have never dunked a basketball before. I would accept any penalty mods think is appropriate

I hereby sentence you to be the Warriors starting center. Hope you can set a screen

They wanna pay me vet min, I will wave every towel ever from the bench xD

[RCM88x]

Kind of feeling like the Spurs are torpedoing their chance of building a dynasty around Wemby before it even gets off the ground. Just don't see Fox as a #2 on a real contender unless he takes a massive step forward or Wemby turns out to be twice the player of anyone else in the league currently.

[jalengreen]

Kind of feeling like the Spurs are torpedoing their chance of building a dynasty around Wemby before it even gets off the ground. Just don't see Fox as a #2 on a real contender unless he takes a massive step forward or Wemby turns out to be twice the player of anyone else in the league currently.

Would have been really optimistic to see the Spurs start that dynasty within the next couple of years imo. Still a very young team that needs to grow. I don’t think Fox’s contract will have any impact on the mid prime Wemby years. It gives them a co-star in his early years which is worth something.

[RCM88x]

Kind of feeling like the Spurs are torpedoing their chance of building a dynasty around Wemby before it even gets off the ground. Just don't see Fox as a #2 on a real contender unless he takes a massive step forward or Wemby turns out to be twice the player of anyone else in the league currently.

Would have been really optimistic to see the Spurs start that dynasty within the next couple of years imo. Still a very young team that needs to grow. I don’t think Fox’s contract will have any impact on the mid prime Wemby years. It gives them a co-star in his early years which is worth something.

This assumes that he'll stick with the Spurs 5 years from now when the best player he's played with in SA is still Fox.

[tsherkin]

This assumes that he'll stick with the Spurs 5 years from now when the best player he's played with in SA is still Fox.

So just tracking back...

Manu, Dirk, Parker,

Jokic and Giannis don't appear to be going anywhere. And Luka was traded, and did not seem to have wanted that at all.

So while you're right that it's an assumption about Wemby, it seems less a thing with the high-end European stars to go bouncing around too much.

[RCM88x]

This assumes that he'll stick with the Spurs 5 years from now when the best player he's played with in SA is still Fox.

So just tracking back...

Manu, Dirk, Parker,

Jokic and Giannis don't appear to be going anywhere. And Luka was traded, and did not seem to have wanted that at all.

So while you're right that it's an assumption about Wemby, it seems less a thing with the high-end European stars to go bouncing around too much.

I do agree it appears European players have less of an inclination to test FA and leave their drafted team. But Jokic and Giannis didn't enter the league as historic prospects with an expectation of greatness from day 1 (same with Dirk), and it's not like we haven't heard rumblings from Giannis at multiple points in the last handful of seasons urging more activeness from Milwaukee. Wemby is a bit different in that respect, probably the only proxy in recent history is Luka (even he had maybe 1/4th of the expectations at the time), so not a huge sample size and hard to really draw conclusions from.

Even so, I'm disappointed that the Spurs have seemingly capped this rendition of the team for a while with this move. Fox is maybe the 15th best PG in the league, is going to be 28 and had only been a positive impact player twice in his career on a real team. Just seems like a low target for them to aim for, and it's disappointing in that sense.

[tsherkin]

I do agree it appears European players have less of an inclination to test FA and leave their drafted team. But Jokic and Giannis didn't enter the league as historic prospects with an expectation of greatness from day 1 (same with Dirk), and it's not like we haven't heard rumblings from Giannis at multiple points in the last handful of seasons urging more activeness from Milwaukee. Wemby is a bit different in that respect, probably the only proxy in recent history is Luka (even he had maybe 1/4th of the expectations at the time), so not a huge sample size and hard to really draw conclusions from.

Indeed. We won't know until it's already done. I just wouldn't be thinking too much about it while he's still on his rookie deal, coming off half a season and all that. Wemby has a lot of development to do still before we start worrying about what the Spurs do with him, I suspect.

Even so, I'm disappointed that the Spurs have seemingly capped this rendition of the team for a while with this move. Fox is maybe the 15th best PG in the league, is going to be 28 and had only been a positive impact player twice in his career on a real team. Just seems like a low target for them to aim for, and it's disappointing in that sense.

Yeah, this is a puzzler. Fox is super not worth this kind of money at all. Maybe they're trying to demonstrate commitment? I don't know what their pick situation looks like over the next couple of years, but they're going to have their work cut out for them trying to flesh out a contender around this as a core.

[eminence]

Thinking Basketball Top 25 peaks of the 21st century #2 was posted, only two guys

25: Jason Kidd
24. Jayson Tatum

The remaining guys (presumably): Manu, Draymond, Shaq, Duncan, KG, McGrady, Nash, Dirk, Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Howard, Chris Paul, Durant, Curry, Harden, Kawhi, Davis, Giannis, Jokic, Embiid, Luka, SGA

Most of the discussion time spent on Kidd. I liked that they emphasized his scoring was decent. Don't really agree with 'pocket-Dray' as a defensive description.

I'm still hurt by the no Walli/Gobert discussion in the HM post.