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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#481 » by MavCarter » Tue Jul 29, 2025 7:44 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
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HoopAndTheHarm wrote:To show how ridiculous and petty this is, this entire situation is solely the result of one man's vendetta from 5 years ago over a bruised ego and the belief that Masai was requesting too much money. Dumping Ujiri without a replacement in place was simply a dumb move and speaks volumes about the shortsightedness and sheer knee-jerk stupidity of Ed Rogers, as well as the clear role of Pelley as being not much more than a yes man.
Potential high level candidates aren't stupid. They see what happened to one of the most respected execs in the league. Does MLSE really expect any of them want to willingly enter that kind of environment? Nevermind that you just saddled them with a GM etc signed for the next 3 years whether they like it or not.
So that leaves the lesser-lights such as Casey, Eversley, etc. Bringing in a senior exec with a losing track record from a mediocre or poor organization sends a bad message to fans and likely also gets Bobby and others polishing up their resumes with one foot out the door.
Given that they are unlikely to attract an elite exec, their best scenario would be promoting from within. So move Bobby up and let him choose his new GM from whomever he can attract or promote. Right now, that's probably their best chance at saving some face in all of this.


If the intent was to fire Masai because of "one man's vendetta" and "bruised ego" then I agree they could've started the search for his replacement sooner. So the fact that it didn't happen throws cold water to your theory.

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Rogers took over the board and closed the sale with Bell in June of this year. He fired him the first chance he got.


Not to mention masai asked pelley to wait until after the draft according to pelley himself. I wonder if masai knew "after the draft" meant literally a day after the draft. Seems like ed couldnt wait to get masai out of here
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#482 » by MavCarter » Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:21 pm

From our drafting to his work with the 905 while he was there theres no one who deserves a promotion more than dan. I really hope its bobby as president and dan as GM
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#484 » by Jerry Lucas » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:21 am


I'm not even going to click these links because Bryan Hayes knows nothing about ball, but I suspect it's just dumb hockey guy takes.

Edit: LOL I clicked and instantly regretted, he said firing Masai just to promote Bobby and save money would be bad optics. :lol:
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#485 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:38 am

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I'm not even going to click these links because Bryan Hayes knows nothing about ball, but I suspect it's just dumb hockey guy takes.

Edit: LOL I clicked and instantly regretted, he said firing Masai just to promote Bobby and save money would be bad optics. :lol:


He actually knows a lot more about the Raps and NBA than the people that actually follow the team like Lewenberg who knows jack shyt of what's going on
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#486 » by Jerry Lucas » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:42 am

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I'm not even going to click these links because Bryan Hayes knows nothing about ball, but I suspect it's just dumb hockey guy takes.

Edit: LOL I clicked and instantly regretted, he said firing Masai just to promote Bobby and save money would be bad optics. :lol:


He actually knows a lot more about the Raps and NBA than the people that actually follow the team like Lewenberg who knows jack shyt of what's going on

I mean, he's against Bobby getting the promotion, which is the position you supoort. :lol:
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#487 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:46 am

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Jerry Lucas wrote:I'm not even going to click these links because Bryan Hayes knows nothing about ball, but I suspect it's just dumb hockey guy takes.

Edit: LOL I clicked and instantly regretted, he said firing Masai just to promote Bobby and save money would be bad optics. :lol:


He actually knows a lot more about the Raps and NBA than the people that actually follow the team like Lewenberg who knows jack shyt of what's going on

I mean, he's against Bobby getting the promotion, which is the position you support. :lol:


Too bad for you that has nothing to do with anything. Another miss. It's his opinion. His thought process is that they hired a search firm and would probably hire someone else because of it...which is very plausible.
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#488 » by Jerry Lucas » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:53 am

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He actually knows a lot more about the Raps and NBA than the people that actually follow the team like Lewenberg who knows jack shyt of what's going on

I mean, he's against Bobby getting the promotion, which is the position you support. :lol:


It's his opinion.

Which was exactly my point. :lol:

His ball takes/opinions are trash, he's just another hockey guy.
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#489 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:57 am

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Jerry Lucas wrote:I mean, he's against Bobby getting the promotion, which is the position you support. :lol:


It's his opinion.

Which was exactly my point. :lol:

His ball opinions are trash, he's just another hockey guy.


Why is it a trash opinion? You aren't following. MLSE hires a firm to search for an executive to run basketball. His opinion is that if they were sold on Bobby they would have just elevated him without the search. It's valid. We don't know what Ed the Putz is thinking.... the guy is forcing Pelley to interview Casey :lol:

Just a hockey guy he is not - he's pretty knowledgable across all sports and he knows a lot more than the guys who cover the Raps exclusively.
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#490 » by Jerry Lucas » Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:01 am

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It's his opinion.

Which was exactly my point. :lol:

His ball opinions are trash, he's just another hockey guy.


Why is it a trash opinion?

One of the first things he said after I clicked the link was basically that he doesn't think Bobby should get promoted because after firing Masai, keeping the same front office in place without the 15M head of the operation would be bad optics (in terms of cost cutting).

I think it's a trash opinion because I am also of the belief that Bobby should get the promotion.


You aren't following.

Seems to be you that isn't following. Or at the very least misinterpreting which opinion I was referring to.
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#491 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:10 am

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Jerry Lucas wrote:Which was exactly my point. :lol:

His ball opinions are trash, he's just another hockey guy.


Why is it a trash opinion?

One of the first things he said after I clicked the link was basically that he doesn't think Bobby should get promoted because after firing Masai, keeping the same front office in place without the 15M head of the operation would be bad optics (in terms of cost cutting).

I think it's a trash opinion because I am also of the belief that Bobby should get the promotion.


You aren't following.

Seems to be you that isn't following. Or at the very least misinterpreting which opinion I was referring to.


Nope, you're not following. Keep watching. Hayes is denying that he will be the president not just from the optics of it but from a Rogers POV, if it's something other than $ and they felt they need change, then he thinks they will go in another direction. We also only gave Bobby a light extension. Not sure why this is a trash opinion. Again, I'm Bobby's biggest supporter and I want him promoted ... but if you haven't been following, we have a new owner now who doesn't know a thing about basketball and is forcing his lead minion to interview Casey and Eversely, both abomination candidates (for reasons you should already understand why).
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#492 » by lobosloboslobos » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:38 am

WaltFrazier wrote:Didn't Pelley stress that the new president would have a business background, in his press conference after Masai was let go? Casey is not that, he's a basketball guy, came up through the coaching ranks.


well, as far as i understand business – taking your team from the 21st most valuable to the 11th most valuable franchise in a decade, resulting in an increase in value in the billions – is pretty damn good business, not to mention the team's overall profitability through that decade of winning, or how it drives their other business lines, ie. Rogers cable.

losing is bad for business.
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#493 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:51 am

Casey will make it a priority to bring back DeMar.

Pistons were linked to DeMar last year as well.

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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#494 » by NinjaBro » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:13 am

Guys I know we laugh at this but this is truly a nightmare of epic proportions. No self respecting raptor fan should be happy that we fired Masai only to be replaced by friggin Casey. Nightmare, absolute nightmare. Like worst case scenario.
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#495 » by Jerry Lucas » Wed Jul 30, 2025 12:48 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:I'm Bobby's biggest supporter and I want him promoted ... but if you haven't been following, we have a new owner now who doesn't know a thing about basketball and is forcing his lead minion to interview Casey and Eversely, both abomination candidates (for reasons you should already understand why).

I've said this in a previous post in this thread already, but my prediction is that when Bobby ends up getting the promotion, the doom-posting about fringe dark horse candidates like Casey and Eversley will be looked back on similarly to the doom-posting about fringe dark horse candidates like Nash and Redick in the Coaching Search threads.

And then hockey guys like Bryan Hayes will go on their radio shows to say that Bobby's promotion is a bad move optically. :lol:
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#496 » by God Squad » Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:00 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:I'm Bobby's biggest supporter and I want him promoted ... but if you haven't been following, we have a new owner now who doesn't know a thing about basketball and is forcing his lead minion to interview Casey and Eversely, both abomination candidates (for reasons you should already understand why).

I've said this in a previous post in this thread already, but my prediction is that when Bobby ends up getting the promotion, the doom-posting about fringe dark horse candidates like Casey and Eversley will be looked back on similarly to the doom-posting about fringe dark horse candidates like Nash and Redick in the Coaching Search threads.

And then hockey guys like Bryan Hayes will go on their radio shows to say that Bobby's promotion is a bad move optically. :lol:

Casey and Eversely shouldn't even be in consideration; that's the problem.

The names of the "agency/firm" have been in contact with have been dog chit. The only good name would be Prichard, and I'm not getting my hopes up.It has to be Bobby because we'd be so cooked with Casey/Eversely.
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#497 » by Kreamy » Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:00 pm

Jerry Lucas wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:I'm Bobby's biggest supporter and I want him promoted ... but if you haven't been following, we have a new owner now who doesn't know a thing about basketball and is forcing his lead minion to interview Casey and Eversely, both abomination candidates (for reasons you should already understand why).

I've said this in a previous post in this thread already, but my prediction is that when Bobby ends up getting the promotion, the doom-posting about fringe dark horse candidates like Casey and Eversley will be looked back on similarly to the doom-posting about fringe dark horse candidates like Nash and Redick in the Coaching Search threads.

And then hockey guys like Bryan Hayes will go on their radio shows to say that Bobby's promotion is a bad move optically. :lol:


Unfortunately the smart people that made the decision on Nash and Redick are not the same people making the call on Casey and Eversley, and that's the fear.
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#498 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:04 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:I'm Bobby's biggest supporter and I want him promoted ... but if you haven't been following, we have a new owner now who doesn't know a thing about basketball and is forcing his lead minion to interview Casey and Eversely, both abomination candidates (for reasons you should already understand why).

I've said this in a previous post in this thread already, but my prediction is that when Bobby ends up getting the promotion, the doom-posting about fringe dark horse candidates like Casey and Eversley will be looked back on similarly to the doom-posting about fringe dark horse candidates like Nash and Redick in the Coaching Search threads.



And we already addressed this. Masai knew how to run a process. Rogers and Pelley are morons. They are interviewing Casey and Eversely - both who shouldn’t even be serving popcorn. That’s the problem. Did bryan sleep with your sister? Lol
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Post#499 » by Jerry Lucas » Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:16 pm

God Squad wrote:Casey and Eversely shouldn't even be in consideration; that's the problem.

The names of the "agency/firm" have been in contact with have been dog chit. The only good name would be Prichard, and I'm not getting my hopes up.It has to be Bobby because we'd be so cooked with Casey/Eversely.

Kreamy wrote:Unfortunately the smart people that made the decision on Nash and Redick are not the same people making the call on Casey and Eversley, and that's the fear.

WuTang_OG wrote:And we already addressed this. Masai knew how to run a process. Rogers and Pelley are morons. They are interviewing Casey and Eversely - both who shouldn’t even be serving popcorn. That’s the problem.

I'm not denying that Ed and Pelley are idiots, I've always agreed with that. But I still predict Bobby will end up getting that promotion. :lol:
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Re: Grange: Bobby wants President’s Job // update pg. 15 

Post#500 » by God Squad » Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:45 pm

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God Squad wrote:Casey and Eversely shouldn't even be in consideration; that's the problem.

The names of the "agency/firm" have been in contact with have been dog chit. The only good name would be Prichard, and I'm not getting my hopes up.It has to be Bobby because we'd be so cooked with Casey/Eversely.

Kreamy wrote:Unfortunately the smart people that made the decision on Nash and Redick are not the same people making the call on Casey and Eversley, and that's the fear.

WuTang_OG wrote:And we already addressed this. Masai knew how to run a process. Rogers and Pelley are morons. They are interviewing Casey and Eversely - both who shouldn’t even be serving popcorn. That’s the problem.

I'm not denying that Ed and Pelley are idiots, I've always agreed with that. But I still predict Bobby will end up getting that promotion. :lol:

It has to be Bobby, because I can't fathom Casey or Eversley having the final say on basketball operations.
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