Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[ACMFFL]

The problem is that nobody expected, even the biggest AD haters, that he would get injured in his first game for Mavs. When Luka got traded for AD, Nico couldn't expected he would be out that long. So Nba couldn't promised him Flagg. Or are you saying that conspiracy theory is going even deeper and AD going down immediately was always the plan?

Higuain was sold because Juventus has paid his buyout clause and of course because he wanted to leave, not much Napoli could do about.

Man, did you even realize that AD was already injured when they acquired him..?

Then you don't know how De Laurentis, Napoli owner, operates on the market. He was more than happy to sell Higuain and make all of that money, and Napoli fans knew it already. Buyout clause or not, he would have soldi Higuain anyway for that kind of money.

Fun fact: Maradona could have joined Milan superteam in the late 1980's, Berlusconi was basically collecting all the best talents in Europe and Ferlaino (Napoli pres at the time) had zero problem in selling to Milan, actually Napoli was pretty broken, but Diego didn't want to leave.

So they forced him to play to insure he gets long term injury?

You're looking at wrong direction. You should find a case where one of the best players in the world, who's in his prime, who even brought big success to the club only few months before and is beloved by fans, doesn't want to leave and is sold without him even knowing anything about. Chances for something like that happens are a lot lower than 1.8%. I don't know if something like that ever happened in Nba before.

Cmon dont be silly, dude.
What happened to AD in his debut was just inevitable, sooner or later it would have happened anyway.

That's why I started to believe in conspiracy, that's something unprecedented in the NBA.
Also the biggest franchise in the league needed help cause they were heading towards the treadmill (no pick, no blue chip prospect, old core).
Sorry but I cant believe the narrative that clueless owner decided to trust the ego of a manager and sell for peanuts his golden goose.

[Bob8]

Man, did you even realize that AD was already injured when they acquired him..?

Then you don't know how De Laurentis, Napoli owner, operates on the market. He was more than happy to sell Higuain and make all of that money, and Napoli fans knew it already. Buyout clause or not, he would have soldi Higuain anyway for that kind of money.

Fun fact: Maradona could have joined Milan superteam in the late 1980's, Berlusconi was basically collecting all the best talents in Europe and Ferlaino (Napoli pres at the time) had zero problem in selling to Milan, actually Napoli was pretty broken, but Diego didn't want to leave.

So they forced him to play to insure he gets long term injury?

You're looking at wrong direction. You should find a case where one of the best players in the world, who's in his prime, who even brought big success to the club only few months before and is beloved by fans, doesn't want to leave and is sold without him even knowing anything about. Chances for something like that happens are a lot lower than 1.8%. I don't know if something like that ever happened in Nba before.

Cmon dont be silly, dude.
What happened to AD in his debut was just inevitable, sooner or later it would have happened anyway.

That's why I started to believe in conspiracy, that's something unprecedented in the NBA.
Also the biggest franchise in the league needed help cause they were heading towards the treadmill (no pick, no blue chip prospect, old core).
Sorry but I cant believe the narrative that clueless owner decided to trust the ego of a manager and sell for peanuts his golden goose.

And you believe in conspiracy theories? Good for you.

That's all from me.

[ACMFFL]

You can't do anything against buyout clause, especially if a player wants to leave. Higuain wanted to leave.

You still missing the point, Napoli would have sold him anyway, even with no buy-out clause.
Also clause or not, in the end Napoli sold their best player/fans idol to their bitter rival, and nothing bad happened in the city, nobody lost his life nor his job.

Higuain wanted out, that was the first and the most important step. Second was activating insane, for those times, buyout clouse, against which Napoli couldn't do anything. It was game over no matter what owner or management did. So I don't understand on who should fans be angry about? Higuain I guess. I doubt very much that fans would be rioting against Nico, if Luka was the one, who wanted out. Luka is special case because he genuinely wanted to play the whole career in Dallas. He was shocked about the trade.

Dude you're just playing semantic. The clause is irrelevant, his unique purpose was to save owner face (mission not accomplished cause people still hate him these days, even after winning 2 of the last 3 Serie A), he would have sold him anyway in that Summer cause that was what Napoli books needed.
And Napoli fans knew it and nothing bad happened other than some protests here and there, that's why I brought this example, it kinda disproves your theory of how they would react to losing their best player.

Yeah I know Luka case is totally different, and dont get me wrong, my heart still badly bleeds everytime I think about how he was treaded by the FO, I dont be ashamed to confess that I cried a lot when I found out he got traded, I'm an old grown-ass but I've never suffer as much as I did after that February for sports, that was even more shocking and painful than the 2005 UCL Finals in Istanbul to me, just to let you understand what I'm talking about.

But I'm sick and tired of feeling miserable and sad, that's why I want to give a genuine chance to this team, the players.

[Darren]

A new president is appointed on 1st August per report. It seems like the Mavs may head to completely different direction.

[Mr B]

Mavs have a new team president. Supposedly some guy that was formerly employed by Minnesota. Whether that is a good or bad thing, we'll find out.

Was initially confused. I thought that was the position of the Welts guy. Apparently different functions.

Interested to see how they plan to do this.

Read on Twitter

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What? But i've read here that just 1 or 2 guys aren't happy about Mavs situation
The majority of the fanbase were excited! Or maybe not

I told you guys, nobody can change the past but fire Harrison is the only way to fix the fracture from fans and organization... His time here is done, first bad Mavs stint or heavy street clothes injury and he will be out.

Hang on guys. It's almost over.

You’re reading comprehension isn’t very good today friend. I said, in Dallas. The Mavs have more fans than just the ones that live in the city. He’s talking about those and any in Dallas that might still be butt hurt.

[ACMFFL]

And you believe in conspiracy theories? Good for you.

That's all from me.

Yeah it makes way more sense than losing tons of money on purpose just to satisfy his manager's ego.
Sorry if it hurt your feelings but that's my opinion.

[ACMFFL]

What? But i've read here that just 1 or 2 guys aren't happy about Mavs situation
The majority of the fanbase were excited! Or maybe not

Man what a disappointment, I genuinely thought you were better than that.
It's not fair what you're doing here.
If you want to quote people you should do it without mystifying their message.

[ACMFFL]

That’s how I see the Mavs. The team is bigger than any 1 player, coach, or front office guy.

Yeah, that's exactly how I feel.

[Maverick41]

The Luka trade drove me nuts but like I said on the day of the trade, I'm a Mavs fan and I will cheer for the Mavs regardless. I can't lie though that the Nico and management words to trash Luka certainly challenged my fandom and I stopped watching games out of disgust at some point. That said, I do I wish Luka nothing but the best and hope he reaches the heights he's capable of. The way he's handled the situation post trade showed a lot of class and restraint.

Drama aside, I'm just hoping for a successful and fun season. I'm excited for Flagg and am hopeful he can be our next franchise guy. He certainly has the talent to be but time will tell.

[Mr B]

People expect for him to play point in near future. He didn't show anything to suggest he's capable of that. Yes Kidd has given Giannis the ball in his hands, but Giannis is an athletic freak. Flagg was athletic freak in College, he won't be in Nba.

You can bet AD is getting extension as soon as possible.

Was Giannis an athletic freak when he entered the league? Uhm wat?
Jesus Christ we are talking about a 18 years old kid, you're acting like he's a finished product.

That's just your speculation, man. Sorry but I dont give it so much credit.

He was athletic freak when Kidd gave him the ball.

So what are expectations for generational talent Flagg in few years time? To play great D and be 3rd option in offense?

You really are hoping Flagg will be bad huh.

[Mr B]

Was Giannis an athletic freak when he entered the league? Uhm wat?
Jesus Christ we are talking about a 18 years old kid, you're acting like he's a finished product.

That's just your speculation, man. Sorry but I dont give it so much credit.

He was athletic freak when Kidd gave him the ball.

So what are expectations for generational talent Flagg in few years time? To play great D and be 3rd option in offense?

Who knows? Sky's the limit for this kid. Just to make it clear before Luka's biggest fans assault me: no, he ain't Luka, but I still see as an AD/JT level of prospect in him.

No one thought Luka was going to be as good as he was. We have no idea how good Flagg will be. We should see what he can do before saying he’s nothing more than a 3rd offensive option.

[Mr B]

I think you're severely overreacting. Mavs fanbase is unhappy with Nico because this team would have a top3 MVP candidate in his prime and perfect players built around him. Nico decided to postpone that for the next like 5 or more years. I didn't see a single post around the internet that said "Don't pick Flagg we hate him" or something like that.

You have to understand that until Nico is with Mavs, fans will be pissed off. You see trucks around Dallas having their license plates named "Fire Nico" or murals with the same writing on them. All in all, getting Flagg was some kind of a miracle, if we can call it like that, but at the end of the day Nico has done an unthinkable thing to this team.

Go tell Dirk to stop pouting and get back to Mavs games if you dare ... Yeah, it's that bad, but has nothing to do with the players or Flagg himself. And this is why some posters here still can't understand why 99% of Mavs fanbase is unhappy, it's not the team, it's the people in the background.

First off there is not a large amount of fans in Dallas still screaming “Fire Nico”. You may get 1 or 2 people (probably even the same guy) at an event saying that. Just because you saw 1 guy on Twitter with that plate doesn’t mean there are thousands of people in Dallas with that license plate.

As for Dirk, he isn’t constantly crying that Luka got traded. He did what I suggested a couple of fans here should do and that’s just step away from basketball for a little while if you hate what the Mavs are doing. Why put yourself through such anguish and turmoil? When the team starts contending again Dirk will be welcomed back. No hard feelings if you step away for a while.

You have fans in other arenas chanting "Fire Nico"... Look it up on ytube, we already went through this some time ago.

I don't know how much German you speak but if you do, look up the interview named "Die Basketball Welt ist schockiert“ - Ein Family Gespräch mit Dirk Nowitzki

Dirk Nowitzki had a German podcast with his sister Silke for his foundation. He - numerous times - calls the trade "insanity". Says he was about going to lunch when he heard about it and skipped lunch to sit in his hotel room for 1 hour.

And also, you just posted a Twitter post from the new Mavs president saying his Nr1 priority is to make sure Mavs fanbase heals and moves on. So you're basically contradicting with yourself now, because apparently there is not only 1 guy on twitter who is unhappy with Nico.

It makes sense why Dirk would be upset. This was the only team he ever played for in the NBA. The team was loaded with his guys and the team had a heavy European flavor to it.

All that is gone so it makes sense that he would distance himself from the team. The team has transitioned from a European-esq team to an America can team.

Dirk is an icon in Dallas. He’s almost as beloved as Roger Staubach. He always will be. He could probably run for Mayor of Dallas too and win in a landslide. With that said he’s still not bigger than the Mavs just like as beloved as Roger Staubach is in Dallas he’s still not bigger than the Cowboys.

I will say though that there is a similarity in the way some fans hate Nico and the way some fans hate Jerry Jones for the way he fired Tom Landry. And we definitely still hear from those guys.

[Bob8]

He was athletic freak when Kidd gave him the ball.

So what are expectations for generational talent Flagg in few years time? To play great D and be 3rd option in offense?

Who knows? Sky's the limit for this kid. Just to make it clear before Luka's biggest fans assault me: no, he ain't Luka, but I still see as an AD/JT level of prospect in him.

No one thought Luka was going to be as good as he was. We have no idea how good Flagg will be. We should see what he can do before saying he’s nothing more than a 3rd offensive option.

You Americans didn't because you believe that basketball is being played only in USA, the truth is that Euroleague and some other leagues are light years better than college. And Luka was the best player there being 18 years old. To understand how difficult that is, kids that old rarely even play in Euroleague. Another difference is that he won Eurobasket with Slovenia, where he played (and beat them), against real active Nba players.

That ignorance is the reason why he went 3rd, after Ayton who was athletically extremely gifted, but now people on this board, doesn't seen him even as big improvement over Hayes, and Bagley, whose best trade mark was that his second jump is really fast.

Flagg is 10x more hyped than Luka, because he's white American, but the truth is that he didn't played a single game against real opposition. That doesn't mean he can't be franchise player, it means that he will have to show that on the court against big guys. He might succeed or not, he's surely physically more gifted than Luka, now he has to develop other skills that Luka had very soon in his Nba career. Can he? Sure. I just think developing a rookie, while you try to compete is not the easiest thing. I would say that Kyrie being injured is a bad thing for Mavs and good thing for Flagg.

[Bob8]

Was Giannis an athletic freak when he entered the league? Uhm wat?
Jesus Christ we are talking about a 18 years old kid, you're acting like he's a finished product.

That's just your speculation, man. Sorry but I dont give it so much credit.

He was athletic freak when Kidd gave him the ball.

So what are expectations for generational talent Flagg in few years time? To play great D and be 3rd option in offense?

You really are hoping Flagg will be bad huh.

Playing great D and be 3rd option for contender in few years is bad? I see hype wagon went in overdrive.

If Mavs really believe in this kid, they should trade AD and Kyrie, start building team around him and make him first option immediately. But we have problem with Nico again, don't we? He said he doesn't care what Mavs do long term, because he won't be here anymore. Development of Flagg is really not his priority. He needs to win championship with his guy, AD.

[arkuo]

Why are the Luka fans still forcing themselves in a Dallas message board? If you're mad at Nico then the door is wide open. Nobody is forcing you to buy the product. Life's too short to be upset like that. Get some sun people. It's a nice summer.

[Mavrelous]

Why are the Luka fans still forcing themselves in a Dallas message board? If you're mad at Nico then the door is wide open. Nobody is forcing you to buy the product. Life's too short to be upset like that. Get some sun people. It's a nice summer.

Everyone is welcome on this board, if you don't like seeing Luka fans or Luka topics, find another board, this is the last warning, no more passive aggressive requests for other people to stop posting will be tolerated.

[Mavrelous]

Who knows? Sky's the limit for this kid. Just to make it clear before Luka's biggest fans assault me: no, he ain't Luka, but I still see as an AD/JT level of prospect in him.

No one thought Luka was going to be as good as he was. We have no idea how good Flagg will be. We should see what he can do before saying he’s nothing more than a 3rd offensive option.

You Americans didn't because you believe that basketball is being played only in USA, the truth is that Euroleague and some other leagues are light years better than college. And Luka was the best player there being 18 years old. To understand how difficult that is, kids that old rarely even play in Euroleague. Another difference is that he won Eurobasket with Slovenia, where he played (and beat them), against real active Nba players.

That ignorance is the reason why he went 3rd, after Ayton who was athletically extremely gifted, but now people on this board, doesn't seen him even as big improvement over Hayes, and Bagley, whose best trade mark was that his second jump is really fast.

Flagg is 10x more hyped than Luka, because he's white American, but the truth is that he didn't played a single game against real opposition. That doesn't mean he can't be franchise player, it means that he will have to show that on the court against big guys. He might succeed or not, he's surely physically more gifted than Luka, now he has to develop other skills that Luka had very soon in his Nba career. Can he? Sure. I just think developing a rookie, while you try to compete is not the easiest thing. I would say that Kyrie being injured is a bad thing for Mavs and good thing for Flagg.

Sweeping generalization and disrespectful posting will not be tolerated, especially when they are flat out wrong.

[Mavrelous]

People have been complaining they don't want to see Luka posts, this is the trade thread, we have 3 other separate threads:
1. Cooper thread
2. Around the league thread
3. Luka thread

Please direct Luka posts to the last 2 and Cooper posts to the 1st.
Hopefully this helps people who don't want to discuss Luka, avoid them.
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