Hornets/Bulls

[GoBobs]

Giddy for Sexton, Salaun, 2026 late first, 2 2nds

Giddy signs for 4 years 113 mil (29,29,28,26)

Why for Hornets: try to upgrade the talent level and make a push to win now

Why for Bulls: they get some value out of a player they don't seem to want to sign long term

[jbk1234]

The Hornets have no business trading draft capital and Sexton for another poor defender (who they're then going to tie up real cap space on).

[jayjaysee]

Charlotte’s roster needs bigs and defense, but if Giddey really turned a corner last year - this is worth it. They have other ways of improving those spots. I think Giddey wants a bit more than that contract though, but maybe being unsigned in August will lower his asking price by a few mil.

Chicago should just pay Giddey. But this is better than risking him on the QO.

[HornetJail]

I'll pass. We should use these assets on a frontcourt player.

[ChettheJet]

I think the Bulls would pay Giddey that much. Sexton at 27 probably isn't somebody the Bulls would resign for serious money, whether he does well or not. What this also does is push one more expiring contract to next summer along with Vuc, Coby, Huerter, Collins, Dosunmu, Carter, you don;t ant to be faced with half a roster and maybe not enough quality to spend all that cap space on to see how it meshes. A late pick is going to be a delayed payoff not part of the near future push to start winning.

[Texas Chuck]

I'll pass. We should use these assets on a frontcourt player.

I mean these aren't really assets, not meaningful ones.

This feels like a no-brainer if Giddey and Chicago are on board. And if Giddey shows last year was growth and not an aberration it opens the team up to finally free themselves from Ball. Then figure out how to get out of Bridges and the team can fully move forward with some core pieces that make sense and come with none of the baggage.

[gswhoops]

I'll pass. We should use these assets on a frontcourt player.

I mean these aren't really assets, not meaningful ones.

This feels like a no-brainer if Giddey and Chicago are on board. And if Giddey shows last year was growth and not an aberration it opens the team up to finally free themselves from Ball. Then figure out how to get out of Bridges and the team can fully move forward with some core pieces that make sense and come with none of the baggage.

Yeah agreed 100%. Charlotte isn't at a point where they need to be worrying about roster fit/construction quite yet (which is why they traded their only decent center for picks and drafted another wing). Take upside swings and see if they pay off.

[SkyHook]

I'll pass. We should use these assets on a frontcourt player.

I mean these aren't really assets, not meaningful ones.

This feels like a no-brainer if Giddey and Chicago are on board. And if Giddey shows last year was growth and not an aberration it opens the team up to finally free themselves from Ball. Then figure out how to get out of Bridges and the team can fully move forward with some core pieces that make sense and come with none of the baggage.

Yeah agreed 100%. Charlotte isn't at a point where they need to be worrying about roster fit/construction quite yet (which is why they traded their only decent center for picks and drafted another wing). Take upside swings and see if they pay off.

I think Charlotte should do this if it means that they're committed to more off-Ball time and are going to run the offense through Giddey. Probably hinges on how they feel about Salaun's future, though I have him as the least promising of last year's lottery picks.

[Dez]

So what reason do the Bulls do this? None of those are assets.

Also Chicago not having signed Giddey yet has nothing to do with not wanting him and everything to do with not Patrick Williams-ing him.

[mg]

This is awful for Charlotte.

There's no way the Hornets should be trading assets in order to give Giddey a huge contract. How is he going to fit with either Kon or Ball? At least with Sexton you have a guy who will provide rim pressure which they sorely need.

[jbk1234]

I'll pass. We should use these assets on a frontcourt player.

I mean these aren't really assets, not meaningful ones.

This feels like a no-brainer if Giddey and Chicago are on board. And if Giddey shows last year was growth and not an aberration it opens the team up to finally free themselves from Ball. Then figure out how to get out of Bridges and the team can fully move forward with some core pieces that make sense and come with none of the baggage.

Yeah agreed 100%. Charlotte isn't at a point where they need to be worrying about roster fit/construction quite yet (which is why they traded their only decent center for picks and drafted another wing). Take upside swings and see if they pay off.

Giddey looked better as the primary ball handler/PG, but I'd really like to see if he can maintain his shooting numbers over a larger sample size before handing him a big bag of money. It's a tough call for the Bulls, and for the Hornets, Melo's got to go if you do this.

[gswhoops]

I mean these aren't really assets, not meaningful ones.

This feels like a no-brainer if Giddey and Chicago are on board. And if Giddey shows last year was growth and not an aberration it opens the team up to finally free themselves from Ball. Then figure out how to get out of Bridges and the team can fully move forward with some core pieces that make sense and come with none of the baggage.

Yeah agreed 100%. Charlotte isn't at a point where they need to be worrying about roster fit/construction quite yet (which is why they traded their only decent center for picks and drafted another wing). Take upside swings and see if they pay off.

Giddey looked better as the primary ball handler/PG, but I'd really like to see if he can maintain his shooting numbers over a larger sample size before handing him a big bag of money. It's a tough call for the Bulls, and for the Hornets, Melo's got to go if you do this.

I would view this as a feature rather than a bug if I were Charlotte.

[Tony Snell]

I would be surprised if the Bulls weren't ultimately willing to pay this to retain Giddey. If they do end up sticking to their guns and determine they are unwilling to offer him more than the $20m per year or whatever they are offering him now, then this would be a solid return for a guy they would otherwise be planning to let walk.

[KembaWalker]

Josh Giddey is a poor man’s LaMelo in nearly every way, however I would be interesting in watching them play together on the floor from a comedic point of view

[Dez]

Josh Giddey is a poor man’s LaMelo in nearly every way, however I would be interesting in watching them play together on the floor from a comedic point of view

How is he a poor man's LaMelo? Puts up similar numbers with much less usage and chucking.

He also actually plays.

[Devilanche]

Josh Giddey is a poor man’s LaMelo in nearly every way, however I would be interesting in watching them play together on the floor from a comedic point of view

How is he a poor man's LaMelo? Puts up similar numbers with much less usage and chucking.

He also actually plays.

Would be great to watch them both together on the same half of the court .

Giddey probably resigns at Chicago for under 27m per year for 3-4 years and some kind of options.
Both side should just be realistic and get it completed.

[GoBobs]

Josh Giddey is a poor man’s LaMelo in nearly every way, however I would be interesting in watching them play together on the floor from a comedic point of view

How is he a poor man's LaMelo? Puts up similar numbers with much less usage and chucking.

He also actually plays.

Lamelo averaged 25 ppg last year, Giddey 15 ppg. Giddey does not put up similar numbers.

Let problem for the Bulls is this. They can pay Giddey the 30 mil but even if he earns every bit of it, the Bulls are still a treadmill team at best. They don't have any assets.

Giddey will drag the Bulls to the middle if everything works out and they will be picking 8-12 in the draft the next four years. If it doesn't work out they have another bad contract.

The Bulls need to pick top 5 like 4 years in a row to build some foundation of talent.

The Hornets already have some top pick type guys on the roster in LaMelo and Brandon. They also have 4 extra first round picks coming in the next 4 years. If Giddey hits anywhere from middle to top outcome with the Hornets it can be a team success.

[GoBobs]

I mean these aren't really assets, not meaningful ones.

This feels like a no-brainer if Giddey and Chicago are on board. And if Giddey shows last year was growth and not an aberration it opens the team up to finally free themselves from Ball. Then figure out how to get out of Bridges and the team can fully move forward with some core pieces that make sense and come with none of the baggage.

Yeah agreed 100%. Charlotte isn't at a point where they need to be worrying about roster fit/construction quite yet (which is why they traded their only decent center for picks and drafted another wing). Take upside swings and see if they pay off.

Giddey looked better as the primary ball handler/PG, but I'd really like to see if he can maintain his shooting numbers over a larger sample size before handing him a big bag of money. It's a tough call for the Bulls, and for the Hornets, Melo's got to go if you do this.

Melo wouldn't have to go anwhere. Both Giddey and LaMelo have size to play the 2 or the 3 or whatever you need. LaMelo is also probably going to miss 10-20 games in a lot of years so having a guy that can replace him is valuable.

[Dez]

Josh Giddey is a poor man’s LaMelo in nearly every way, however I would be interesting in watching them play together on the floor from a comedic point of view

How is he a poor man's LaMelo? Puts up similar numbers with much less usage and chucking.

He also actually plays.

Lamelo averaged 25 ppg last year, Giddey 15 ppg. Giddey does not put up similar numbers.

Let problem for the Bulls is this. They can pay Giddey the 30 mil but even if he earns every bit of it, the Bulls are still a treadmill team at best. They don't have any assets.

Giddey will drag the Bulls to the middle if everything works out and they will be picking 8-12 in the draft the next four years. If it doesn't work out they have another bad contract.

The Bulls need to pick top 5 like 4 years in a row to build some foundation of talent.

The Hornets already have some top pick type guys on the roster in LaMelo and Brandon. They also have 4 extra first round picks coming in the next 4 years. If Giddey hits anywhere from middle to top outcome with the Hornets it can be a team success.

LaMelo played 47 games and continues to play f*** all of the season, he averaged that 25 points with a TS% lower than league average and the Hornets were ass.

Giddey averaged 21/10/9 with a TS% in the .60s after the All-Star break where he was given the keys to the team. The Bulls also won the games.

Outside of Brandon Miller the Hornets have very little talent and LaMelo is vastly overrated.

Give me Giddey on whatever contract he ends up with over LaMelo's deal everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.