Cooper Flagg -- Season 1 thread -- Summer League discussion

[Mavrelous]

The most ideal thing is to sell off AD and Kyrie while they still have value. For future picks not for existing players. Because as young as they are today, guys like Coby White will be 35 years old by the time Cooper is just about to hit his prime. In 10 years Flagg will just be 28 and will just hit his prime. His running mate has to be in his early 20s and those guys (the good ones) are all under team control for 6 to 7 seasons.

I don't think Kyrie has much value, AD should fetch something very good.
If the Pistons see themselves in good shape, they can send Ivey and Holland for him.

[arkuo]

The most ideal thing is to sell off AD and Kyrie while they still have value. For future picks not for existing players. Because as young as they are today, guys like Coby White will be 35 years old by the time Cooper is just about to hit his prime. In 10 years Flagg will just be 28 and will just hit his prime. His running mate has to be in his early 20s and those guys (the good ones) are all under team control for 6 to 7 seasons.

I don't think Kyrie has much value, AD should fetch something very good.
If the Pistons see themselves in good shape, they can send Ivey and Holland for him.

Agreed on both AD and Kyrie. Flagg is so young that it's crazy that his potential running mate has not eben been drafted yet. Similar to how Dirk found Nash, ideally I'd want that new guy to be in the mold of a Cade Cunningham. Big guard.

Cade can have a Dallas "homecoming" in a few years similar to how Jason Kidd (older) teamed up with Dirk towards the end. But that's hoping you catch lightning in a bottle. A more sustainable way to build is still through the draft. San Antonio got Duncan, Manu and Tony Parker via the draft.

[Mavrelous]

The most ideal thing is to sell off AD and Kyrie while they still have value. For future picks not for existing players. Because as young as they are today, guys like Coby White will be 35 years old by the time Cooper is just about to hit his prime. In 10 years Flagg will just be 28 and will just hit his prime. His running mate has to be in his early 20s and those guys (the good ones) are all under team control for 6 to 7 seasons.

I don't think Kyrie has much value, AD should fetch something very good.
If the Pistons see themselves in good shape, they can send Ivey and Holland for him.

Agreed on both AD and Kyrie. Flagg is so young that it's crazy that his potential running mate has not eben been drafted yet. Similar to how Dirk found Nash, ideally I'd want that new guy to be in the mold of a Cade Cunningham. Big guard.

Cade can have a Dallas "homecoming" in a few years similar to how Jason Kidd (older) teamed up with Dirk towards the end. But that's hoping you catch lightning in a bottle. A more sustainable way to build is still through the draft. San Antonio got Duncan, Manu and Tony Parker via the draft.

I wish, I don't see Pistons trading him even for king's ransom.

[arkuo]

I don't think Kyrie has much value, AD should fetch something very good.
If the Pistons see themselves in good shape, they can send Ivey and Holland for him.

Agreed on both AD and Kyrie. Flagg is so young that it's crazy that his potential running mate has not eben been drafted yet. Similar to how Dirk found Nash, ideally I'd want that new guy to be in the mold of a Cade Cunningham. Big guard.

Cade can have a Dallas "homecoming" in a few years similar to how Jason Kidd (older) teamed up with Dirk towards the end. But that's hoping you catch lightning in a bottle. A more sustainable way to build is still through the draft. San Antonio got Duncan, Manu and Tony Parker via the draft.

I wish, I don't see Pistons trading him even for king's ransom.

Yeah if Dallas lucks out and somehow gets Cade, it wouldn't be via trade. He'd have to pack up in Detroit and sign elsewhere as a max free agent. His contract in Detroit will eventually run out. Kyrie, AD and Klay will eventually have to retire. So that's 2 max spots while Flagg is on a rookie deal. So there's an opportunity.

Ideally you'd have to tank to get high picks. In the years after Kyrie retires, losing seasons might be in order to get young quality talent in. Dallas still has picks 2032 right?

[41Dirk41]

I don't think Kyrie has much value, AD should fetch something very good.
If the Pistons see themselves in good shape, they can send Ivey and Holland for him.

Agreed on both AD and Kyrie. Flagg is so young that it's crazy that his potential running mate has not eben been drafted yet. Similar to how Dirk found Nash, ideally I'd want that new guy to be in the mold of a Cade Cunningham. Big guard.

Cade can have a Dallas "homecoming" in a few years similar to how Jason Kidd (older) teamed up with Dirk towards the end. But that's hoping you catch lightning in a bottle. A more sustainable way to build is still through the draft. San Antonio got Duncan, Manu and Tony Parker via the draft.

I wish, I don't see Pistons trading him even for king's ransom.

Maybe if they first hire Harrison

Anyway i think we need a young PG to be accompanied Flagg-Lively (and maybe Christie).

Kyrie has near 0 trade value but his contract isn't insane and he is a great mentor.

Street clothes will request another 70+M per year contract so it's better trade him ASAP but everybody know that will be the next moves after Harrison departure.

[ACMFFL]

The most ideal thing is to sell off AD and Kyrie while they still have value. For future picks not for existing players. Because as young as they are today, guys like Coby White will be 35 years old by the time Cooper is just about to hit his prime. In 10 years Flagg will just be 28 and will just hit his prime. His running mate has to be in his early 20s and those guys (the good ones) are all under team control for 6 to 7 seasons.

Charlotte and especially Spurs are the teams to watch in that scenario.
Hornets seems to be pretty tied with Klutch, have enough quality assets (Kon, multiple 1sts, including our 2027 pick), and I expect them to make a splash trade within the next year or two.
Not my favorite landing spot for AD cause honestly I'd want a better prospect than Knueppel but at least he's very close with Flagg and it would be nice to enter the next drafts with multiple 1sts.
San Antonio (Harper, salary filler) makes a lot of sense imho, AD would form the most dominant frontcourt with Wemby, and Dylan fits Cooper's timeline.

[arkuo]

If the Mavs do a soft tank in guise of Kyrie being out most of next season, they're slated to draft #14 or 15 in the draft next year. The way-too-early mock draft has Dallas picking Darius Acuff Jr. He's the number 1 point guard in the country now in the college level. Number 1 in terms of the early rankings.

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[Mavrelous]

If the Mavs do a soft tank in guise of Kyrie being out most of next season, they're slated to draft #14 or 15 in the draft next year. The way-too-early mock draft has Dallas picking Darius Acuff Jr. He's the number 1 point guard in the country now in the college level. Number 1 in terms of the early rankings.

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Way too early, Jaden Hardy was considered #1 PG recruit out of HS.

[arkuo]

If the Mavs do a soft tank in guise of Kyrie being out most of next season, they're slated to draft #14 or 15 in the draft next year. The way-too-early mock draft has Dallas picking Darius Acuff Jr. He's the number 1 point guard in the country now in the college level. Number 1 in terms of the early rankings.

Watch on YouTube

Way too early, Jaden Hardy was considered #1 PG recruit out of HS.

Agreed. His mistake was not going to college.

He could use the degree for life after the NBA either way.

[Teffer10]

The most ideal thing is to sell off AD and Kyrie while they still have value. For future picks not for existing players. Because as young as they are today, guys like Coby White will be 35 years old by the time Cooper is just about to hit his prime. In 10 years Flagg will just be 28 and will just hit his prime. His running mate has to be in his early 20s and those guys (the good ones) are all under team control for 6 to 7 seasons.

Charlotte and especially Spurs are the teams to watch in that scenario.
Hornets seems to be pretty tied with Klutch, have enough quality assets (Kon, multiple 1sts, including our 2027 pick), and I expect them to make a splash trade within the next year or two.
Not my favorite landing spot for AD cause honestly I'd want a better prospect than Knueppel but at least he's very close with Flagg and it would be nice to enter the next drafts with multiple 1sts.
San Antonio (Harper, salary filler) makes a lot of sense imho, AD would form the most dominant frontcourt with Wemby, and Dylan fits Cooper's timeline.

I dont see Spurs moving Harper at all unless he turns out to be a complete bust like DLo and Fultz.

[ACMFFL]

The most ideal thing is to sell off AD and Kyrie while they still have value. For future picks not for existing players. Because as young as they are today, guys like Coby White will be 35 years old by the time Cooper is just about to hit his prime. In 10 years Flagg will just be 28 and will just hit his prime. His running mate has to be in his early 20s and those guys (the good ones) are all under team control for 6 to 7 seasons.

Charlotte and especially Spurs are the teams to watch in that scenario.
Hornets seems to be pretty tied with Klutch, have enough quality assets (Kon, multiple 1sts, including our 2027 pick), and I expect them to make a splash trade within the next year or two.
Not my favorite landing spot for AD cause honestly I'd want a better prospect than Knueppel but at least he's very close with Flagg and it would be nice to enter the next drafts with multiple 1sts.
San Antonio (Harper, salary filler) makes a lot of sense imho, AD would form the most dominant frontcourt with Wemby, and Dylan fits Cooper's timeline.

I dont see Spurs moving Harper at all unless he turns out to be a complete bust like DLo and Fultz.

If they plan to extend Fox, I don't think there will be enough room for Harper.

[41Dirk41]

I would like to steal Fox at this point, he fits Harrison timeline and vision... If it really exists.

[Mavrelous]

I would like to steal Fox at this point, he fixes Harrison timeline and vision... If it really exists.

Fox doesn't fit Flagg timeline, and he's reliant on speed, he's not getting any faster in his 30s.
If the price is low enough I'd pull the trigger, but I'd be very careful to invest too much.

[41Dirk41]

I would like to steal Fox at this point, he fits Harrison timeline and vision... If it really exists.

Fox doesn't fit Flagg timeline, and he's reliant on speed, he's not getting any faster in his 30s.
If the price is low enough I'd pull the trigger, but I'd be very careful to invest too much.

I said Harrison timeline...

[Darren]

Cooper Flagg is listed as 52 on top players' list with plenty to prove.

[Mavrelous]

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[Mavrelous]

He's really really young

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[41Dirk41]

Hahahahahahaha Hedo is a euro legend!!!

He only knows who became a coach basically! He is very young!

[Darren]

Both Lively and Flagg looks sharp in practice. The duo shows a lot of promises. AD looks like normal Luka on vacation, though. I don't think it's good for knees or ankles with that much upper body strength. For comparison, Shawn Kemp was in similar shape. Things didn't end well for Kemp health-wise. I think Lively needs to gains strength, though. I wonder if the Mavs has enough to shock the OKC team in preseason opener. Chet has matured somewhat. I wonder if Lively can show dominance on both ends of the floor this coming season. I believe Lively is overlooked dominance force on plus-minus.