Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga

[Crazy-Canuck]

if Kuminga understands finance he would not be driving a lambo in his rookie year. I would not be surprised if he got broke in his early 30s.

While Zach edey drives a Kia sorrento

[superunknown]

all this exploring, they could have discovered the lost city of Z by now....

[vvoland]

if Kuminga understands finance he would not be driving a lambo in his rookie year. I would not be surprised if he got broke in his early 30s.

Dude's rookie contract was 30m after he got paid, as a 17 year old, in the g League. He's likely to make another 50 over the next two years. 0 stories of him gambling, 0 lawsuits, accusations, or IG stories. From everything I've heard about him off the court, he's more than a solid human being.

You have no idea what he does with his money, none of us do, but it's safe to say a $250k car isn't going to make a dent. Stop pocket watching

[CS707]

I do think at some point you need to best and final him and if he doesn’t accept it, move on with the offseason with the expectation he plays on the qualifying offer.

[bay2hk]

if Kuminga understands finance he would not be driving a lambo in his rookie year. I would not be surprised if he got broke in his early 30s.

Dude's rookie contract was 30m after he got paid, as a 17 year old, in the g League. He's likely to make another 50 over the next two years. 0 stories of him gambling, 0 lawsuits, accusations, or IG stories. From everything I've heard about him off the court, he's more than a solid human being.

You have no idea what he does with his money, none of us do, but it's safe to say a $250k car isn't going to make a dent. Stop pocket watching

Is that you Aaron turner?

[vvoland]

if Kuminga understands finance he would not be driving a lambo in his rookie year. I would not be surprised if he got broke in his early 30s.

Dude's rookie contract was 30m after he got paid, as a 17 year old, in the g League. He's likely to make another 50 over the next two years. 0 stories of him gambling, 0 lawsuits, accusations, or IG stories. From everything I've heard about him off the court, he's more than a solid human being.

You have no idea what he does with his money, none of us do, but it's safe to say a $250k car isn't going to make a dent. Stop pocket watching

Is that you Aaron turner?

I might as well be considering how much water I'm carrying for JK on this board. I do find some of these double standards absurd enough to comment on

[marthafokker]

I am 100% on JK camp now. Dubs so disrespectful. 2nd year team option?

I hope JK just take the QO now!

[Old_Blue]

Is that who you get your financial advice from, your "momma"?

If you're blessed with a good Mom, then yeah she's not a bad person to take advice from - on any number of issues, including financial ones. To begin with, she's not going to lie to you. Second, she's going to be legitimately happy to see you make good decisions that help you to get yourself "established." Third, she doesn't work on commission. If you want to someday buy her a house, she'll appreciate it. However, her love for you will never be conditioned on what you give her. In contrast, your agent, your headhunter, your financial advisor, etc. will always view you primarily as a commission.

[Twinkie defense]

It would be a good offseason if they were playing in an adult rec league.

Warriors would have made the WCF last season if not for a Stephen Curry injury. IDK how they get worse adding Horford and Melton.

[whatisacenter]

It would be a good offseason if they were playing in an adult rec league.

Warriors would have made the WCF last season if not for a Stephen Curry injury. IDK how they get worse adding Horford and Melton.

Age and other teams getting better.

[thunderdunk]

It would be a good offseason if they were playing in an adult rec league.

Warriors would have made the WCF last season if not for a Stephen Curry injury. IDK how they get worse adding Horford and Melton.

Well, they haven't actually got either of them yet... Still hoping Sacto gives us Keon and a 1st and we can put this one to bed. But if 4 years and 80 w/ a PO in year 4 won't work for JK, then all bets are off. In that case, he's just getting bad advice (still).

[SpreeS]

It would be a good offseason if they were playing in an adult rec league.

Warriors would have made the WCF last season if not for a Stephen Curry injury. IDK how they get worse adding Horford and Melton.

This is coming from where? Did you decide about an end of the series within the first 12 minutes? This team talks a lot about contending and winning 5th championship, but in reality they won only 2 PO series in last 3 years. Both were 7 games series and against teams which were very far from contending.

Al 39y
Curry 38y
Butler 36y
Green 36y
Melton after knee injury

Is this your squad to win it all? This is very far from reality...

[bay2hk]

I am 100% on JK camp now. Dubs so disrespectful. 2nd year team option?

I hope JK just take the QO now!

Good!! He’s not worth $27.3m per annum like his agent is asking. One year rental of JK at $7.9m is better than being stock with a bloated Poole like contract.

[Crazy-Canuck]

I am 100% on JK camp now. Dubs so disrespectful. 2nd year team option?

I hope JK just take the QO now!

Good!! He’s not worth $27.3m per annum like his agent is asking. One year rental of JK at $7.9m is better than being stock with a bloated Poole like contract.

It isnt though.

Kuminga taking the qo offer hurts the dubs more than it does kuminga. There is zero paths to improving the club if this happens.

Best case is he takes the 1+1 being offered.

Next best is to guarantee that 2nd year and offer to send him somewhere he'd be agreeable to moving.

Do not want him on this team past the deadline nor do I want him on the qo.

[statsman]

Kuminga is perhaps the best trade asset the Warriors have, at least at his perceived value. If he signs the QO, that value diminishes to $8M. Not much trade value in that, especially since (a) Kuminga has the right of trade refusal; and (b) the acquiring team would not retain his Bird right, making him non-Bird status (max of 120% raise using the non-Bird Exception in 2026-27: $9.6M; would need cap space to offer more or the NTMLE).

A S&T is not going to return much salary either, because of Kuminga's BYC status and the desire for the Warriors to not hard cap themselves at the first apron. If the Warriors believe Kuminga is worth, say, $22M this season, they immediately lose at least $11M of trade value on a S&T. It would take a miracle by MDJ for a S&T to be worth it to the Warriors.

I am not a fan of Kuminga's game. Haven't been since a few months into his rookie season. That said, I think the Warriors will need to drop the team option second year and make both seasons guaranteed. He would become a tradable asset. I just don't know if that's enough to convince Kuminga to stay with the team. His preference is to be gone. Must be a punch to the gut for Lacob.

[Onus]

Warriors really choosing the nuclear option. He doesn't want to be here, we don't want him here but we're going to force you to be here? Take the best offer that is out there and move on. The market is what the market is willing to bear out for him. His value isn't going to be better at the trade deadline.

[Onus]

Kuminga is perhaps the best trade asset the Warriors have, at least at his perceived value. If he signs the QO, that value diminishes to $8M. Not much trade value in that, especially since (a) Kuminga has the right of trade refusal; and (b) the acquiring team would not retain his Bird right, making him non-Bird status (max of 120% raise using the non-Bird Exception in 2026-27: $9.6M; would need cap space to offer more or the NTMLE).

A S&T is not going to return much salary either, because of Kuminga's BYC status and the desire for the Warriors to not hard cap themselves at the first apron. If the Warriors believe Kuminga is worth, say, $22M this season, they immediately lose at least $11M of trade value on a S&T. It would take a miracle by MDJ for a S&T to be worth it to the Warriors.

I am not a fan of Kuminga's game. Haven't been since a few months into his rookie season. That said, I think the Warriors will need to drop the team option second year and make both seasons guaranteed. He would become a tradable asset. I just don't know if that's enough to convince Kuminga to stay with the team. His preference is to be gone. Must be a punch to the gut for Lacob.

You would really tank the season with bringing back a malcontent over 11M in salary ballast?

[bay2hk]

I am 100% on JK camp now. Dubs so disrespectful. 2nd year team option?

I hope JK just take the QO now!

Good!! He’s not worth $27.3m per annum like his agent is asking. One year rental of JK at $7.9m is better than being stock with a bloated Poole like contract.

It isnt though.

Kuminga taking the qo offer hurts the dubs more than it does kuminga. There is zero paths to improving the club if this happens.

Best case is he takes the 1+1 being offered.

Next best is to guarantee that 2nd year and offer to send him somewhere he'd be agreeable to moving.

Do not want him on this team past the deadline nor do I want him on the qo.

All indication points to him not taking warriors’ offer even if they guarantee this second season (unless warriors provide him a NTC). Have him play 1 year rental QO and force him to perform next season on a contract year. Let’s see how much crap he talks when the season starts and everyone sees he’s the same player as the past 4 years.

From what I’ve seen, jk has all the talent but no work ethics / bbiq. Paying massive for potential isn’t worth it when the player is arrogant and lazy.

[marthafokker]

I am 100% on JK camp now. Dubs so disrespectful. 2nd year team option?

I hope JK just take the QO now!

Good!! He’s not worth $27.3m per annum like his agent is asking. One year rental of JK at $7.9m is better than being stock with a bloated Poole like contract.

Said part is... Dubs don't really wants him to sign the QO. And if does happen, this is worse than either Suns or Kings trade. And this one year rental is a joke... almost every NBA analyst says this is a distraction for the team the whole season.

And if this contract offer is on the table, JK will eventually get DNP-CD even if he signs. How are they going to get a better offer than Kings/Suns trash?

You know either: Kerr says.. F Lacob, and never play JK. Or JK will be his old self and goes there anyways. So you are saying... this is GOOD? Would have been better letting go for nothing if that is part of the journey. And it IS nothing if JK signs QO. And oh thanks for the distraction? When JK signs his QO, might as well tell him to sit at home. Even if he signs that offer, who says DNP-CD and distraction doesn't happen anyways.

Don't worry about JK making money, no one offered him the money you talked about. Worry about Dubs F'ing themselves being petty and wasting a year of Curry. Curry is all that matters at the end of the day for us fans.

JK might have signed the contract if it was 1+1 with player option. But this team option is petty. And now JK might f#$# around with the QO on 10/1 and no sooner. Great. Allow negotiation to go Nuclear.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Just handshake the agreements now for a deadline deal.

Jk to the kings on a 1+1. Kings promise to extend him 4/100 after the season. Its where jk wants to go and the kings want him. Waiving the ntc to go where he wants.

Demar to the Heat. Apparently theres already a handshake agreement in place. Again, its mutual.

Warriors get wiggins or rozier (to flip somewhere else for someone we need) + protected 1st from the kings.

Its clean and simple and everyone gets what they want.