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Post#941 » by Mr B » Thu Jul 31, 2025 5:06 am

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Mr B wrote:Keep an eye on Joe Milton. He’s quietly having a good camp.

Oh, so he's the future? :-? :eek2: Oh my.

2028 is when Dak can be cut for less than a 55 mil dead cap hit.

So even if he could replace Dak, you'd still be paying Dak for the entirety of Milton's rookie contract.

I just thought I'd mention it since you're getting weirdly optimistic about the Cowboys lately.

The Cowboys will definitely have to start Dak this season and next season. After that they could cut him or trade him. He would count $55M in dead money. They could also designate him a post June 1st cut and split that $55M into two smaller cap hits.
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Post#942 » by QB_Eagles » Thu Jul 31, 2025 6:36 am

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Oh, so he's the future? :-? :eek2: Oh my.

2028 is when Dak can be cut for less than a 55 mil dead cap hit.

So even if he could replace Dak, you'd still be paying Dak for the entirety of Milton's rookie contract.

I just thought I'd mention it since you're getting weirdly optimistic about the Cowboys lately.

The Cowboys will definitely have to start Dak this season and next season. After that they could cut him or trade him. He would count $55M in dead money. They could also designate him a post June 1st cut and split that $55M into two smaller cap hits.

Yeah, but then you still don't have the benefit of Milton's rookie deal.

At least when the Eagles dealt Wentz with the big dead cap hit, they did so very early in Hurts' NFL career so they could still benefit off of his cheap rookie deal.

But the Cowboys have restructured Dak's contract so much (i.e. added later guarantees to it) that they now can't reasonably get rid of him even if they were so lucky to find a better/equal QB on a rookie deal.
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Post#943 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:24 am

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:I just love how focused Egal posters and fans are to all things Cowboys. Its priceless !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bowdown:

What the hell else are they going to talk about, the Eagles?

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Sometimes, fans wanna talk about other teams. Ain’t nothing wrong with that. But what I’m seeing is on this site cowboy fans vaginas get hurt when other teams talk about the cowboys. It’s weird..

Well, I much prefer to talk about the Chiefs, Bengals and Lions the past couple years but we know how that all works out when Egal trolls are around. I think it begins with a B. :thinking: :gossip:
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Post#944 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:32 am

Jaydubb wrote:The title of this thread should include (no eagle fans allowed). Can a mod please change! I think it’ll make BJJ more comfortable because he’s so scared of us. He’s probably peeing his pants right now seeing that I wrote something.

We have an Egals forum for you guys but it never goes anywhere. Been dead for all 10 years I have been here. They starve for so much attention they find the need to come to the general to spew their senseless crap and troll Cowboys fans because that has always been their mission and all they know. Its been an obsession since the 70's. :eyebrows: :beer: :party:
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Post#945 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:40 am

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Mr B wrote:What the hell else are they going to talk about, the Eagles?

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Even when they win a chip, the Cowboys are always on their minds. I guess we still are America's team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :beer: :party: :guitar:

When you're talking to fans of a team that hasn't even sniffed success in almost 30 years, it would be rude to rub their faces in the Eagles recent SB victories.

I'm not a Jerry Jones era Cowboy fan. Thought we already wet through this. See what I mean about trolling? And its obvious you can't comprehend what you do read but we can blame that on the understanding you had a bad role model growing up. :nod:
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Post#946 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:41 am

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Mr B wrote:Keep an eye on Joe Milton. He’s quietly having a good camp.

Oh, so he's the future? :-? :eek2: Oh my.

2028 is when Dak can be cut for less than a 55 mil dead cap hit.

So even if he could replace Dak, you'd still be paying Dak for the entirety of Milton's rookie contract.

I just thought I'd mention it since you're getting weirdly optimistic about the Cowboys lately.

Thanks for your concern. It touching. :cuddle :kiss
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Post#947 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:44 am

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Oh, so he's the future? :-? :eek2: Oh my.

2028 is when Dak can be cut for less than a 55 mil dead cap hit.

So even if he could replace Dak, you'd still be paying Dak for the entirety of Milton's rookie contract.

I just thought I'd mention it since you're getting weirdly optimistic about the Cowboys lately.

The Cowboys will definitely have to start Dak this season and next season. After that they could cut him or trade him. He would count $55M in dead money. They could also designate him a post June 1st cut and split that $55M into two smaller cap hits.

They should have got rid of Dumb Dak 5 years ago like I said and we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with. Jesus. Told you all back then he wasn't the guy but you all didn't listen.
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Post#948 » by Mr B » Thu Jul 31, 2025 1:18 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:2028 is when Dak can be cut for less than a 55 mil dead cap hit.

So even if he could replace Dak, you'd still be paying Dak for the entirety of Milton's rookie contract.

I just thought I'd mention it since you're getting weirdly optimistic about the Cowboys lately.

The Cowboys will definitely have to start Dak this season and next season. After that they could cut him or trade him. He would count $55M in dead money. They could also designate him a post June 1st cut and split that $55M into two smaller cap hits.

Yeah, but then you still don't have the benefit of Milton's rookie deal.

At least when the Eagles dealt Wentz with the big dead cap hit, they did so very early in Hurts' NFL career so they could still benefit off of his cheap rookie deal.

But the Cowboys have restructured Dak's contract so much (i.e. added later guarantees to it) that they now can't reasonably get rid of him even if they were so lucky to find a better/equal QB on a rookie deal.

True, Joe Milton has a $1.2M cap hit in ‘27 which is the final year of his deal. If their plan is to let Dak go after the ‘26 season then I would think they will extend Milton’s contract. How much of a raise would you expect Joe Milton to get if he has never started a game for the Cowboys and is really just the backup QB?

On the high end backup QB’s make about $5M-$6M annually. That’s still a pretty good bargain considering once Dak is gone (if that’s the route they decide to go).
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Post#949 » by QB_Eagles » Thu Jul 31, 2025 2:00 pm

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Mr B wrote:What the hell else are they going to talk about, the Eagles?

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Sometimes, fans wanna talk about other teams. Ain’t nothing wrong with that. But what I’m seeing is on this site cowboy fans vaginas get hurt when other teams talk about the cowboys. It’s weird..

Well, I much prefer to talk about the Chiefs, Bengals and Lions the past couple years but we know how that all works out when Egal trolls are around. I think it begins with a B. :thinking: :gossip:

B as in "bjj whines like a baby"?
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Post#950 » by QB_Eagles » Thu Jul 31, 2025 2:02 pm

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Mr B wrote:The Cowboys will definitely have to start Dak this season and next season. After that they could cut him or trade him. He would count $55M in dead money. They could also designate him a post June 1st cut and split that $55M into two smaller cap hits.

Yeah, but then you still don't have the benefit of Milton's rookie deal.

At least when the Eagles dealt Wentz with the big dead cap hit, they did so very early in Hurts' NFL career so they could still benefit off of his cheap rookie deal.

But the Cowboys have restructured Dak's contract so much (i.e. added later guarantees to it) that they now can't reasonably get rid of him even if they were so lucky to find a better/equal QB on a rookie deal.

True, Joe Milton has a $1.2M cap hit in ‘27 which is the final year of his deal. If their plan is to let Dak go after the ‘26 season then I would think they will extend Milton’s contract. How much of a raise would you expect Joe Milton to get if he has never started a game for the Cowboys and is really just the backup QB?

On the high end backup QB’s make about $5M-$6M annually. That’s still a pretty good bargain considering once Dak is gone (if that’s the route they decide to go).

If he never started then you won't know if he's any good either.

QBs who rode the bench their whole rookie contract tend to sign one-year deals.
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Post#951 » by Mr B » Thu Jul 31, 2025 3:08 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:Yeah, but then you still don't have the benefit of Milton's rookie deal.

At least when the Eagles dealt Wentz with the big dead cap hit, they did so very early in Hurts' NFL career so they could still benefit off of his cheap rookie deal.

But the Cowboys have restructured Dak's contract so much (i.e. added later guarantees to it) that they now can't reasonably get rid of him even if they were so lucky to find a better/equal QB on a rookie deal.

True, Joe Milton has a $1.2M cap hit in ‘27 which is the final year of his deal. If their plan is to let Dak go after the ‘26 season then I would think they will extend Milton’s contract. How much of a raise would you expect Joe Milton to get if he has never started a game for the Cowboys and is really just the backup QB?

On the high end backup QB’s make about $5M-$6M annually. That’s still a pretty good bargain considering once Dak is gone (if that’s the route they decide to go).

If he never started then you won't know if he's any good either.

QBs who rode the bench their whole rookie contract tend to sign one-year deals.

Not always. The Cowboys have signed backup QB’s to multi year deals when they wanted them to stick around for a while. It’s not uncommon.
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Post#952 » by Mr B » Thu Jul 31, 2025 3:09 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:Yeah, but then you still don't have the benefit of Milton's rookie deal.

At least when the Eagles dealt Wentz with the big dead cap hit, they did so very early in Hurts' NFL career so they could still benefit off of his cheap rookie deal.

But the Cowboys have restructured Dak's contract so much (i.e. added later guarantees to it) that they now can't reasonably get rid of him even if they were so lucky to find a better/equal QB on a rookie deal.

True, Joe Milton has a $1.2M cap hit in ‘27 which is the final year of his deal. If their plan is to let Dak go after the ‘26 season then I would think they will extend Milton’s contract. How much of a raise would you expect Joe Milton to get if he has never started a game for the Cowboys and is really just the backup QB?

On the high end backup QB’s make about $5M-$6M annually. That’s still a pretty good bargain considering once Dak is gone (if that’s the route they decide to go).

If he never started then you won't know if he's any good either.

QBs who rode the bench their whole rookie contract tend to sign one-year deals.

And how did the Eagles know Jalen Hurts was good enough to be a starter before they started him for the 1st time?
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Post#953 » by QB_Eagles » Thu Jul 31, 2025 4:58 pm

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Mr B wrote:True, Joe Milton has a $1.2M cap hit in ‘27 which is the final year of his deal. If their plan is to let Dak go after the ‘26 season then I would think they will extend Milton’s contract. How much of a raise would you expect Joe Milton to get if he has never started a game for the Cowboys and is really just the backup QB?

On the high end backup QB’s make about $5M-$6M annually. That’s still a pretty good bargain considering once Dak is gone (if that’s the route they decide to go).

If he never started then you won't know if he's any good either.

QBs who rode the bench their whole rookie contract tend to sign one-year deals.

And how did the Eagles know Jalen Hurts was good enough to be a starter before they started him for the 1st time?

Wentz got benched and Hurts played 4.5 games.
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Post#954 » by Mr B » Thu Jul 31, 2025 6:26 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:If he never started then you won't know if he's any good either.

QBs who rode the bench their whole rookie contract tend to sign one-year deals.

And how did the Eagles know Jalen Hurts was good enough to be a starter before they started him for the 1st time?

Wentz got benched and Hurts played 4.5 games.

But how did they know Hurts would be good enough if he never started?

Just trying to show you that the logic you’re using is flawed.
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Post#955 » by Jaydubb » Thu Jul 31, 2025 8:11 pm

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:And how did the Eagles know Jalen Hurts was good enough to be a starter before they started him for the 1st time?

Wentz got benched and Hurts played 4.5 games.

But how did they know Hurts would be good enough if he never started?

Just trying to show you that the logic you’re using is flawed.

Many people say hurts still isn’t good enough
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Post#956 » by Jaydubb » Thu Jul 31, 2025 8:14 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:If he never started then you won't know if he's any good either.

QBs who rode the bench their whole rookie contract tend to sign one-year deals.

And how did the Eagles know Jalen Hurts was good enough to be a starter before they started him for the 1st time?

Wentz got benched and Hurts played 4.5 games.

Yeah I mean.. It’s pretty much this. Wentz was starting to look like ****, got benched, and hurts came in and looked pretty good for a young player.
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Post#957 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Jul 31, 2025 9:08 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:Sometimes, fans wanna talk about other teams. Ain’t nothing wrong with that. But what I’m seeing is on this site cowboy fans vaginas get hurt when other teams talk about the cowboys. It’s weird..

Well, I much prefer to talk about the Chiefs, Bengals and Lions the past couple years but we know how that all works out when Egal trolls are around. I think it begins with a B. :thinking: :gossip:

B as in "bjj whines like a baby"?

Your on tilt already !!! Wow. Your easy. :eyebrows: :beer:
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Post#958 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:52 pm

Defense doesn't inspire much confidence here

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Post#959 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Jul 31, 2025 11:58 pm

Injury bug in Dallas??

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Here's the list of names:

- CB Shavon Revel Jr. (pre-existing knee)
- CB Trevon Diggs (pre-existing knee)
- CB Josh Butler (pre-existing knee)
- LB DeMarvion Overshown (pre-existing knee)
- OG Tyler Smith (knee tendinitis)
- OT Tyler Guyton (knee)
- WR Parris Campbell (knee)
- RB Deuce Vaughn (hamstring)
- CB Andrew Booth Jr. (hamstring)
- S Juanyeh Thomas (hamstring)
- TE Brevyn Spann-Ford (ankle)
- OT Hakeem Adeniji (concussion)
- OT Matt Waletzko (undisclosed)
- OG Rob Jones (neck)
- CB Caelen Carson (knee)
- RB Miles Sanders (knee)
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Post#960 » by QB_Eagles » Fri Aug 1, 2025 3:11 am

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:And how did the Eagles know Jalen Hurts was good enough to be a starter before they started him for the 1st time?

Wentz got benched and Hurts played 4.5 games.

But how did they know Hurts would be good enough if he never started?

Just trying to show you that the logic you’re using is flawed.

How is it flawed? Dak might get injured again anyway. But if he doesn't, the Cowboy need to find out somehow if they got a replacement before taking on a big dead cap hit for moving on from Dak.

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