MLB Trade Deadline & Jays Trade Deadline Thread

[JN]

We lack the #1 starter and the #1 closer. Which are big holes... I think the first was going to be tough to realistically fill at the deadline, the latter more acheivable.

That being said we have some really good pitching depth 1-12 for the postseason. We might be worse than others at inning #9, but outs are crucial between innings #6-#8 as well, and I think with those additions we can compete with anybody.

It would be really nice if Bieber could be one of our top 3 starters by year end. Playoff pitching can be random, with guys just going on heaters unexpectedly. Remember the 2023 Rangers probably had the worst regular season bullpen to make the playoffs since 2000, and somehow they figured it out.

Starters 1-4, whomever they are.

Bullpen
Hoffman
Varland
Dominguez
Rodriguez
Little
Fisher
Maybe Garcia/Sandlin
#5 Starter

[Randle McMurphy]

So who is going to get sent down for outfielders?

Davis or Loper?

Loperfido would go long before Davis, they lack RHBs

With the way Loperfido has performed this month overall with his very good offensive numbers- he is my everyday LF. Schneider has sucked hitting Righties and Lefties this past month. He can pack his bags back to Buffalo. All hype because of his one great month in 2023. He sucked last year also, and is terrible again in all of July.

141 wRC+ against LHPs this year, Davis has

I can assure you that he’s going nowhere as LH-oriented as this team is about to become

[Randle McMurphy]

We lack the #1 starter and the #1 closer. Which are big holes... I think the first was going to be tough to realistically fill at the deadline, the latter more acheivable.

That being said we have some really good pitching depth 1-12 for the postseason. It would be really nice if Bieber could be one of our top 3 starters by year end. Remember the 2023 Rangers probably had the worst regular season bullpen to make the playoffs since 2000, and somehow they figured it out.

Starters 1-4, whomever they are.

Bullpen
Hoffman
Varland
Dominguez
Rodriguez
Little
Fisher
Maybe Garcia/Sandlin
#5 Starter

It’s a good bullpen, not a good rotation. But Bieber makes it quite a bit better if he’s healthy and effective.

[JCP11]

So who is going to get sent down for outfielders?

Davis or Loper?

Loperfido would go long before Davis, they lack RHBs

The way Loper is hitting he's not going anywhere, I think he got a couple of hits in few ABs vs lefties since his call back. Schneider offers so little even vs lefties. I would let Schneider go. Loper is also better in the field.

[Randle McMurphy]

So who is going to get sent down for outfielders?

Davis or Loper?

Loperfido would go long before Davis, they lack RHBs

The way Loper is hitting he's not going anywhere, I think he got a couple of hits in few ABs vs lefties since his call back. Schneider offers so little even vs lefties. I would let Schneider go.

141 wRC+ vs LHP is not offering little

Again, he’s not going anywhere. Go look at their lineup against LHPs once Varsho and Gimenez come back if they do that.

[JN]

We lack the #1 starter and the #1 closer. Which are big holes... I think the first was going to be tough to realistically fill at the deadline, the latter more acheivable.

That being said we have some really good pitching depth 1-12 for the postseason. It would be really nice if Bieber could be one of our top 3 starters by year end. Remember the 2023 Rangers probably had the worst regular season bullpen to make the playoffs since 2000, and somehow they figured it out.

Starters 1-4, whomever they are.

Bullpen
Hoffman
Varland
Dominguez
Rodriguez
Little
Fisher
Maybe Garcia/Sandlin
#5 Starter

It’s a good bullpen, not a good rotation. But Bieber makes it quite a bit better if he’s healthy and effective.

Healthy I think our #3-#6 guys can stand up to most playoff teams but certainly not all... but we are really far behind at #1-#2, because all our guys seem like #3-#5 starter types.

Hopefully Bieber can be our best pitcher so that gap at the top can at least close a bit.

[Boogie!]

We lack the #1 starter and the #1 closer. Which are big holes... I think the first was going to be tough to realistically fill at the deadline, the latter more acheivable.

That being said we have some really good pitching depth 1-12 for the postseason. It would be really nice if Bieber could be one of our top 3 starters by year end. Remember the 2023 Rangers probably had the worst regular season bullpen to make the playoffs since 2000, and somehow they figured it out.

Starters 1-4, whomever they are.

Bullpen
Hoffman
Varland
Dominguez
Rodriguez
Little
Fisher
Maybe Garcia/Sandlin
#5 Starter

It’s a good bullpen, not a good rotation. But Bieber makes it quite a bit better if he’s healthy and effective.

I would’ve felt better if we added a proven closer and a better power bat. But I guess we’re okay. Just crazy when you hear about all the Yankees moves

[Mehar]

Loperfido would go long before Davis, they lack RHBs

With the way Loperfido has performed this month overall with his very good offensive numbers- he is my everyday LF. Schneider has sucked hitting Righties and Lefties this past month. He can pack his bags back to Buffalo. All hype because of his one great month in 2023. He sucked last year also, and is terrible again in all of July.

141 wRC+ against LHPs this year, Davis has

I can assure you that he’s going nowhere as LH-oriented as this team is about to become

They can call him back up when rosters expand. Regardless of Righty vs. Lefty, with the impressive numbers of Loperfido this entire month of July- no way he should be sent down. Schneider is all hype. Been terrible for this entire month (except for that one great game he had against the Yankees on July 2nd).

He has sucked against both Righties and Lefties for more than a month. Defensively, I have not been impressed with him in the infield and outfield. Like I said, he had one unbelievable month two years ago but has sucked otherwise. I get people like his mustache, but I like production and stats much more.

[Randle McMurphy]

With the way Loperfido has performed this month overall with his very good offensive numbers- he is my everyday LF. Schneider has sucked hitting Righties and Lefties this past month. He can pack his bags back to Buffalo. All hype because of his one great month in 2023. He sucked last year also, and is terrible again in all of July.

141 wRC+ against LHPs this year, Davis has

I can assure you that he’s going nowhere as LH-oriented as this team is about to become

They can call him back up when rosters expand. Regardless of Righty vs. Lefty, with the impressive numbers of Loperfido this entire month of July- no way he should be sent down. Schneider is all hype. Been terrible for this entire month (except for that one great game he had against the Yankees on July 2nd).

He has sucked against both Righties and Lefties for more than a month. Defensively, I have not been impressed with him in the infield and outfield. Like I said, he had one unbelievable month two years ago but has sucked otherwise. I get people like his mustache, but I like production and stats much more.

You want Loperfido based on a hot streak of like 10 games after a mediocre year in AAA. They aren’t demoting their best platoon RHB with as weak as this team looks against LHP.

[vaff87]

We lack the #1 starter and the #1 closer. Which are big holes... I think the first was going to be tough to realistically fill at the deadline, the latter more acheivable.

That being said we have some really good pitching depth 1-12 for the postseason. It would be really nice if Bieber could be one of our top 3 starters by year end. Remember the 2023 Rangers probably had the worst regular season bullpen to make the playoffs since 2000, and somehow they figured it out.

Starters 1-4, whomever they are.

Bullpen
Hoffman
Varland
Dominguez
Rodriguez
Little
Fisher
Maybe Garcia/Sandlin
#5 Starter

It’s a good bullpen, not a good rotation. But Bieber makes it quite a bit better if he’s healthy and effective.

Healthy I think our #3-#6 guys can stand up to most playoff teams but certainly not all... but we are really far behind at #1-#2, because all our guys seem like #3-#5 starter types.

Hopefully Bieber can be our best pitcher so that gap at the top can at least close a bit.

One good thing is the postseason doesn’t rely as heavily on starting pitching anymore.

[Mehar]

141 wRC+ against LHPs this year, Davis has

I can assure you that he’s going nowhere as LH-oriented as this team is about to become

They can call him back up when rosters expand. Regardless of Righty vs. Lefty, with the impressive numbers of Loperfido this entire month of July- no way he should be sent down. Schneider is all hype. Been terrible for this entire month (except for that one great game he had against the Yankees on July 2nd).

He has sucked against both Righties and Lefties for more than a month. Defensively, I have not been impressed with him in the infield and outfield. Like I said, he had one unbelievable month two years ago but has sucked otherwise. I get people like his mustache, but I like production and stats much more.

You want Loperfido based on a hot streak of like 10 games after a mediocre year in AAA. They aren’t demoting their best platoon RHB with as weak as this team looks against LHP.

I guess Myles Straw and France will be the RHB, if Schneider is sent down. Straw and Schneider both hitting .229 over 48 at bats in the month of July. Straw is an unbelievable defender though. While Schneider is an underwhelming one. All hype but great mustache.

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[JN]

I'm not feeling the same hype as others for the Yankee moves. When you compare the fact that we got a starting pitcher and they didn't, I'm not even sure if they acquired that much more value than us. I'll concede they didn't get less value than us, but certainly not a whole bunch more.

The Yanks got 2 valuable pitchers in the pen that are better than our bullpen acquisitions, but not much.
We got a potential impact starting pitcher - they didn't.
They added an average starting 3B and utility players.

In terms of bats
These were the adds:
Ryan McMahon
Jose Caballero
Amed Rosario
Austin Slater

They added a guy who will start at third, who has never had a season over 100 in OPS+ (Mcmahon). Its an upgrade... but its also Ryan McMahon They added 2 utility infielders (Rosario, Caballero), and a utility outfielder (Slater). They won't hurt, and its certainly better than France, but we have depth at the bottom of our offensive roster already except for needing one RH bat. I would have preferred Rosario over France. Obviously in terms of hitting for the Yanks its a win for them compared to us. But this isn't a massive win for the Yanks.


In term of the bullpen

Bullpen
David Bednar
Jake BIrd
Camillo Doval

Jake Bird is just a body. Bednar and Doval are closers .. better than Dominquez and Varland, but not by that much.

[Randle McMurphy]

It’s a good bullpen, not a good rotation. But Bieber makes it quite a bit better if he’s healthy and effective.

Healthy I think our #3-#6 guys can stand up to most playoff teams but certainly not all... but we are really far behind at #1-#2, because all our guys seem like #3-#5 starter types.

Hopefully Bieber can be our best pitcher so that gap at the top can at least close a bit.

One good thing is the postseason doesn’t rely as heavily on starting pitching anymore.

Especially when a certain team pulls every SP they have after 3 innings regardless of how effective they are to conform with their pre-set game plan

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[JN]

Healthy I think our #3-#6 guys can stand up to most playoff teams but certainly not all... but we are really far behind at #1-#2, because all our guys seem like #3-#5 starter types.

Hopefully Bieber can be our best pitcher so that gap at the top can at least close a bit.

One good thing is the postseason doesn’t rely as heavily on starting pitching anymore.

Especially when a certain team pulls every SP they have after 3 innings regardless of how effective they are to conform with their pre-set game plan

Having 6 starters on our team that are arguably all legit #3-#5 starters is giving the analytical team orgasms as they think about managing the playoffs.

[Tripod]

Adding France after seeing Clement as 1st...lol.

It does lessen Ernie moving around so much which is good for him too.

[Lateral Quicks]

Solid deadline. Some high upside moves with not a ton given up. The team is improved.

Losing Roden and Wagner sucks, but the reality is neither guy hits for power, which is a big no-no in today's game, especially in the OF. That said, both guys have a career minor league OBP of .400. It's very possible one or both figure it out with more MLB playing time and become useful players.

[JN]

I think Roden might become effective -- others don't.

But in this day and age, once you have established yourself as a playoff team by the deadline, its more important to look at player value for the playoffs and not the regular season.... and a reliever can have much more impact in October because of all the days off.

[Randle McMurphy]

One good thing is the postseason doesn’t rely as heavily on starting pitching anymore.

Especially when a certain team pulls every SP they have after 3 innings regardless of how effective they are to conform with their pre-set game plan

Having 6 starters on our team that are arguably all legit #3-#5 starters is giving the analytical team orgasms as they think about managing the playoffs.

Get ready for the Berrios/Lauer platoon game