NYT: ESPN cuts ties with Shannon Sharpe

[MrBigShot]

ESPn is so dirty for not waiting until his brother's HoF induction.

[Childs]

In hindsight Skip and Shannon were good background noise.

That’s like saying a walrus in heat is good background noise.

[celticfan42487]

ESPn is so dirty for not waiting until his brother's HoF induction.

Sharpe is dirtier for not waiting or caring at all about consent.

Your priorities are mixed up here bro

[bonita_the_frog]

Why not someone who you know...is good?

As long as they're good for ratings, and i think Michael Rapaport would make First Take a lot more popular.

Michael Rappaport is one of the worst human beings on this earth.

I've never heard of Michael Rappaport doing anything wrong, unlike Shannon.

[doogie_hauser]

He got extorted and now fired. He should have never capitulated to that chick and her lawyer. As a matter of fact, he should have never messed with her in the first place. These atheletes need to grow up.

The fact he had to settle with his former girlfriend means there is a more of suggestion of wrong doing there by SS and it would have been highly inappropriate for ESPN to keep him on.

Your attitude is pretty poor and archic and reeks of misogyny and victim shaming.

Be better.

[doogie_hauser]

If ESPN were smart they would bring back Bill Simmons. But that would be an admission of their own mistake in the past so they won't..

[Milenkovic]

Isn't this the second time hes been fired for sexual assault/harassment?

[C3H6N6O6]

Spoiler:

As long as they're good for ratings, and i think Michael Rapaport would make First Take a lot more popular.

Michael Rappaport is one of the worst human beings on this earth.

I've never heard of Michael Rappaport doing anything wrong, unlike Shannon.

The problem with Rappaport is that the only way his dick gets hard these days is if he sees some Palestinian kids getting shot or dying of starvation. He also likes to suck Israeli dick and then shares the videos on his social media.
Do you really want such a person to get paid?

Strike issued. Come on, man. This is wildly inappropriate. -b

[pookenstein]

Sucks to see a successful black man have his rep torn down unfairly. To an extent, he brought it on himself. Public figures should be careful dealing with these gold digging devils. A lot of these "influencer" models have zero moral compass whatsoever and only care about one thing: $$$

How's it unfair?

He always seemed like a simpleton to me, and now its been proven that he's not just a simpleton, he's actually a degenerate simpleton. All type of ish is weird about what he was doing. I wouldn't trust him around my daughter if I had one. Bro is a weirdo and I wouldn't want my name or my brand associated with him either.

Go Broncos.

Since you seem to be a Laker fan, out of curiosity, how would you compare this to Kobe (allegedly) raping Katie Faber, ultimately settling the case and after that everybody seemed to forget about it.
Would you have trusted Bryant around your daughter if you had one? Would you have wanted your name or brand associated with Bryant?

Do you think Sharpe has a chance that fans and media will forget and forgive, like they did with Bryant?

To be clear, this is not a personal attack on you, I'm genuinely interested in a Lakerfans perspective. Also, f*ck Sharpe, f*ck all rapists.

[Johnny Firpo]

Good, as a non-native speaker, I can barely understand what the eff he's saying about half the time. Even Shaq I have a much easier time to understand.

[picc]

Sucks to see a successful black man have his rep torn down unfairly. To an extent, he brought it on himself. Public figures should be careful dealing with these gold digging devils. A lot of these "influencer" models have zero moral compass whatsoever and only care about one thing: $$$

How's it unfair?

He always seemed like a simpleton to me, and now its been proven that he's not just a simpleton, he's actually a degenerate simpleton. All type of ish is weird about what he was doing. I wouldn't trust him around my daughter if I had one. Bro is a weirdo and I wouldn't want my name or my brand associated with him either.

Go Broncos.

Since you seem to be a Laker fan, out of curiosity, how would you compare this to Kobe (allegedly) raping Katie Faber, ultimately settling the case and after that everybody seemed to forget about it.
Would you have trusted Bryant around your daughter if you had one? Would you have wanted your name or brand associated with Bryant?

Do you think Sharpe has a chance that fans and media will forget and forgive, like they did with Bryant?

To be clear, this is not a personal attack on you, I'm genuinely interested in a Lakerfans perspective. Also, f*ck Sharpe, f*ck all rapists.

No offense taken.

Several similarities and differences to Kobe's case. A factual similarity is an athlete allegedly SA'ing a woman. With Kobe, I simply don't believe Katelyn Faber's accusation, and think it was fabricated out of shame, greed, and psychosis (was on medication for schizophrenia at the time of incident).

Kobe and Shannon also both are larger and stronger than normal athletes who engage in rough sex with much smaller women.

Do I think Shannon raped his girl? I think its likely he did something that was non-consensual. OTOH, they were both heavily into BDSM-style sex, and once you get into that territory, the fact that consent is fluid -- and that often, BDSM involves rape fantasy and consensual non-consent -- means there are endless opportunities for someone to decide things have gone too far without their partner realizing. So its very possible he did something she didn't like/consent to, while under the impression it was still part of the game they'd been playing. But, if she doesn't think he needs to be in jail, then why should I.

However, while I don't know for sure whether he raped this woman or not (and would lean toward no in the classic definition), I do know for a fact that he enjoys degenerate activities that I find distasteful and embarrassing on a number of levels. I also didn't like Shannon before any of this, and found him to be a simple-minded and coonish buffoon. So this saga has corroborated that to a remarkable degree.

As for your question about if I would trust Kobe around my hypo daughter, yes I would, because me saying that about Shannon wasn't because he allegedly SA'd this woman. It was because Shannon is a 57 year old man who's into BDSM and race play with teenagers.

Fans and media forgiving and forgetting? Maybe. At the end of the day he didn't go to jail, and she didn't demand he did. She wanted money, not justice. That's always going to take bite out of a SA accusation.

He's popular. Has a huge fan base. People have been forgiven by large sections of the public for less. But at the least, a measure of respect is permanently gone as a result of his degenerate sexual habits, the predatory age difference, the lack of intelligence and situational awareness needed for this to happen, and the racial aspect. All 4 of those combine into super saiyan level perversion and stupidity. Such that even his closest friends have to be re-evaluating some opinions.

Most of his avid fans will stay because lets be honest, what do his sexual proclivities have to do with them killing an hour every day with some entertaining content. Some less avid fans may drift off finding they're less able to take him serious now. The media will be interesting because you have not just the scandal aspect of employing an accused SA'er, but you also have to consider if someone with his lack of hormonal discipline and sexual boundaries is someone you want in your co-ed offices 10 hours a day.

I wouldn't. I wouldn't hire him to work in my mailroom. I'm really curious to see who will though.

[UcanUwill]

If not Skip Bayless then Michael Rapaport.

I would literally boycott First Take if Michael Rapaport was SAS's co-star.

How about boycott first take as is?

[pookenstein]

How's it unfair?

He always seemed like a simpleton to me, and now its been proven that he's not just a simpleton, he's actually a degenerate simpleton. All type of ish is weird about what he was doing. I wouldn't trust him around my daughter if I had one. Bro is a weirdo and I wouldn't want my name or my brand associated with him either.

Go Broncos.

Since you seem to be a Laker fan, out of curiosity, how would you compare this to Kobe (allegedly) raping Katie Faber, ultimately settling the case and after that everybody seemed to forget about it.
Would you have trusted Bryant around your daughter if you had one? Would you have wanted your name or brand associated with Bryant?

Do you think Sharpe has a chance that fans and media will forget and forgive, like they did with Bryant?

To be clear, this is not a personal attack on you, I'm genuinely interested in a Lakerfans perspective. Also, f*ck Sharpe, f*ck all rapists.

No offense taken.

Several similarities and differences to Kobe's case. A factual similarity is an athlete allegedly SA'ing a woman. With Kobe, I simply don't believe Katelyn Faber's accusation, and think it was fabricated out of shame, greed, and psychosis (was on medication for schizophrenia at the time of incident).

Kobe and Shannon also both are larger and stronger than normal athletes who engage in rough sex with much smaller women.

Do I think Shannon raped his girl? I think its likely he did something that was non-consensual. OTOH, they were both heavily into BDSM-style sex, and once you get into that territory, the fact that consent is fluid -- and that often, BDSM involves rape fantasy and consensual non-consent -- means there are endless opportunities for someone to decide things have gone too far without their partner realizing. So its very possible he did something she didn't like/consent to, while under the impression it was still part of the game they'd been playing. But, if she doesn't think he needs to be in jail, then why should I.

However, while I don't know for sure whether he raped this woman or not (and would lean toward no in the classic definition), I do know for a fact that he enjoys degenerate activities that I find distasteful and embarrassing on a number of levels. I also didn't like Shannon before any of this, and found him to be a simple-minded and coonish buffoon. So this saga has corroborated that to a remarkable degree.

As for your question about if I would trust Kobe around my hypo daughter, yes I would, because me saying that about Shannon wasn't because he allegedly SA'd this woman. It was because Shannon is a 57 year old man who's into BDSM and race play with teenagers.

Fans and media forgiving and forgetting? Maybe. At the end of the day he didn't go to jail, and she didn't demand he did. She wanted money, not justice. That's always going to take bite out of a SA accusation.

He's popular. Has a huge fan base. People have been forgiven by large sections of the public for less. But at the least, a measure of respect is permanently gone as a result of his degenerate sexual habits, the predatory age difference, the lack of intelligence and situational awareness needed for this to happen, and the racial aspect. All 4 of those combine into super saiyan level perversion and stupidity. Such that even his closest friends have to be re-evaluating some opinions.

Most of his avid fans will stay because lets be honest, what do his sexual proclivities have to do with them killing an hour every day with some entertaining content. Some less avid fans may drift off finding they're less able to take him serious now. The media will be interesting because you have not just the scandal aspect of employing an accused SA'er, but you also have to consider if someone with his lack of hormonal discipline and sexual boundaries is someone you want in your co-ed offices 10 hours a day.

I wouldn't. I wouldn't hire him to work in my mailroom. I'm really curious to see who will though.

First of all thanks for your honest opinion.


After the dismissal, Bryant released a statement saying that “I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.

“After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”

An agreement was made that nothing he said in the statement could be used against him the civil case.

I'm not denying Faber went for the money afterwards, I think it's highly likely she got what she could, but Kobe's behaviour was unacceptable and I personally hate that a person who was able to do something like that was glorified as a baller and person the way he was.

[wco81]

Yeah that's some copium, to deny Kobe's rape.

[lambchop]

Good, as a non-native speaker, I can barely understand what the eff he's saying about half the time. Even Shaq I have a much easier time to understand.

Well, as a native speaker, I love listening to the way he talks. But I also genuinely enjoy dialects and variations of other foreign languages, for example how people from Naples speak Italian.

[picc]

First of all thanks for your honest opinion.


After the dismissal, Bryant released a statement saying that “I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did.

“After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”

An agreement was made that nothing he said in the statement could be used against him the civil case.

I'm not denying Faber went for the money afterwards, I think it's highly likely she got what she could, but Kobe's behaviour was unacceptable and I personally hate that a person who was able to do something like that was glorified as a baller and person the way he was.

Legal/HR statements that allow someone to close an ongoing dispute while maintaining their position without invalidating the other party’s are common, and even moreso in high profile celeb cases where extended litigation is damaging to the higher profile person. Many times its done to resolve things, get them over with and move on. You take a pill that tastes bad to get over the flu.

Just for example, I work in the entertainment industry in LA and had a friend experience something like this. Not sexual-related, but was accused of something serious by a woman, it was investigated by the company, and although she was found to be fabricating the accusation, HR prepared a statement almost exactly like Bryant’s and verbatim asked him to just say it so they could all move on.

It happens and happened with Bryant imo. I don’t believe her -- full stop. However, i’ve seen threads get closed because of discussions about this so i’m going to stop before this gets there.

[Handlez]

If he really raped her, why weren't criminal charges pursued instead of money?

They had sex over a 100 times and did BDSM, whatever BS that is. (Is regular sex just not enough anymore?)

Once again, if he did it, why was the focus on money and not criminal charges?

[Wargreymon]

Why is it always a sex scandal? Even at my workplace a forklift operator and a production worker were caught having sex in the storage room for cardboard and the woman quit and the guy was fired.