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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1861 » by azcatz11 » Fri Aug 1, 2025 10:58 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Guy sucked while on the Bengals but maybe 2 years away from the game did wonders for him.

Apparently he spent the first year off to heal his body. Then has spent the last year working out and preparing in case the NFL came calling. That doesn’t mean he will be good but at least he should be healthy and in shape.



Isn't Collins the guy who made a monster bong using a gas mask?

Yeah we know what he's been doing the past two years.


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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1862 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:00 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:Lots of cowboy players are not happy. It’s very clear. Lots of cowboy players seem to be protesting for a Micah parsons contract

Besides Micah who’s not happy? You make it sound like they are the Eagles locker room or something.

You make it sound like the eagles have locker room issues or something. They don’t. The eagles don’t have players that are currently protesting their owner because that owner doesn’t want to pay their best player.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1863 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:05 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:Guy sucked while on the Bengals but maybe 2 years away from the game did wonders for him.

Apparently he spent the first year off to heal his body. Then has spent the last year working out and preparing in case the NFL came calling. That doesn’t mean he will be good but at least he should be healthy and in shape.



Isn't Collins the guy who made a monster bong using a gas mask?

Yeah we know what he's been doing the past two years.

No that was Tunsil. Collins was the guy whose ex-girlfriend was murdered the day before the draft. He was questioned and that caused him to fall completely out of the draft. He had no part in the murder. He current BF killed her if I remember correctly.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1864 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:05 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:I laughed when you said mailata. I don’t know what you said after that but lollllll good one.

Micah isn’t free. Lol

Nobody ever implied that Micah would be free but he’s not going for a top tier LT, a young star on his rookie contract, and 5 first round picks either. Probably won’t even fetch half of that actually even considering the division rival tax.

So the Eagles do not want Micah is what you’re saying?
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1865 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:09 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:Lots of cowboy players are not happy. It’s very clear. Lots of cowboy players seem to be protesting for a Micah parsons contract

Besides Micah who’s not happy? You make it sound like they are the Eagles locker room or something.

You make it sound like the eagles have locker room issues or something. They don’t. The eagles don’t have players that are currently protesting their owner because that owner doesn’t want to pay their best player.

I’m just going to put this right here.

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Post#1866 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:10 pm

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Mr B wrote:Micah isn’t free. Lol

Nobody ever implied that Micah would be free but he’s not going for a top tier LT, a young star on his rookie contract, and 5 first round picks either. Probably won’t even fetch half of that actually even considering the division rival tax.

So the Eagles do not want Micah is what you’re saying?

What I’m saying is you’re gonna be verrrrrrrrrrrry surprised by the return the Cowboys get for Micah if you think he’s gonna go for a franchise LT a young defensive star with 3 more years of rookie contract and 5 first round picks.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1867 » by Mr B » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:12 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:Nobody ever implied that Micah would be free but he’s not going for a top tier LT, a young star on his rookie contract, and 5 first round picks either. Probably won’t even fetch half of that actually even considering the division rival tax.

So the Eagles do not want Micah is what you’re saying?

What I’m saying is you’re gonna be verrrrrrrrrrrry surprised by the return the Cowboys get for Micah if you think he’s gonna go for a franchise LT a young defensive star with 3 more years of rookie contract and 5 first round picks.

Well if I’m trading Micah within the division that’s what I would want. In other words hell would freeze over before Micah Parsons ever plays for the Eagles or Commies.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1868 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:13 pm

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Mr B wrote:Besides Micah who’s not happy? You make it sound like they are the Eagles locker room or something.

You make it sound like the eagles have locker room issues or something. They don’t. The eagles don’t have players that are currently protesting their owner because that owner doesn’t want to pay their best player.

I’m just going to put this right here.

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That quote was taken way outta context and he explained his comments a little further like the very next day. Believe whatever you want to believe though.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1869 » by Jaydubb » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:14 pm

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Mr B wrote:So the Eagles do not want Micah is what you’re saying?

What I’m saying is you’re gonna be verrrrrrrrrrrry surprised by the return the Cowboys get for Micah if you think he’s gonna go for a franchise LT a young defensive star with 3 more years of rookie contract and 5 first round picks.

Well if I’m trading Micah within the division that’s what I would want. In other words hell would freeze over before Micah Parsons ever plays for the Eagles or Commies.

Like I said that’s not realistically happening whether there’s division rival tax or not. That’s a madden trade. Madden isn’t real life. Yes there’s a division rival tax but it ain’t that bad..lolll
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Post#1870 » by QB_Eagles » Sat Aug 2, 2025 12:29 am

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Mariner wrote:Play on the field is what matters. Teams have overlooked much worse. Legal troubles, drugs etc…
I’m sure the podcast thing is annoying but hardly a deterrent in a trade. Plus all it takes is one team.

Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.

If Micah were an offensive lineman or a safety or a kicker I would agree with you. We’re talking about arguably (not that arguable either) the best pass rusher in the NFL. Depending on who you ask that’s either the 2nd or 3rd most important position in football. I would bet that more than half the teams n the league would be more than willing to trade for Micah Parsons/

He's not the best pass rusher, not even arguably. He gets results, no doubt, but it's because he gets used creatively scheme-wise. If he has to just beat the best OTs in the NFL straight-up he gets real quiet. He was a non-factor in the last 3 Cowboys playoff losses.
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Post#1871 » by QB_Eagles » Sat Aug 2, 2025 12:37 am

Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Mr B wrote:Besides Micah who’s not happy? You make it sound like they are the Eagles locker room or something.

You make it sound like the eagles have locker room issues or something. They don’t. The eagles don’t have players that are currently protesting their owner because that owner doesn’t want to pay their best player.

I’m just going to put this right here.

Read on Twitter
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December of last year lmao.

That really tore the locker room apart, didn't it?

It just sucks a well-run organization offers so little to talk about unlike the Telenovela Cowboys.
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Post#1872 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 2, 2025 12:49 am

Jaydubb wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Nobody ever implied that Micah would be free but he’s not going for a top tier LT, a young star on his rookie contract, and 5 first round picks either. Probably won’t even fetch half of that actually even considering the division rival tax.

So the Eagles do not want Micah is what you’re saying?

What I’m saying is you’re gonna be verrrrrrrrrrrry surprised by the return the Cowboys get for Micah if you think he’s gonna go for a franchise LT a young defensive star with 3 more years of rookie contract and 5 first round picks.

I know the Eagles would never do that trade. That’s why that’s the asking price. The Eagles will never get Micah Parsons.

A realistic asking price for the best pass rusher in the NFL in his prime is 2 FRP’s and 2 SRP’s.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1873 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 2, 2025 12:53 am

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Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Some owners care about off field stuff. Actually I’d go as far as to say most do. You never know what he’s gonna say and how it can affect a locker room, good or bad. Like I said, there’s PR guys to monitor what players say, but on Micah’s show Micah controls what he says.

When you are preparing an offer of over 100hundred million dollars in guaranteed money and multiple high value draft picks, this is absolutely one of the things owners would think about.

If Micah were an offensive lineman or a safety or a kicker I would agree with you. We’re talking about arguably (not that arguable either) the best pass rusher in the NFL. Depending on who you ask that’s either the 2nd or 3rd most important position in football. I would bet that more than half the teams n the league would be more than willing to trade for Micah Parsons/

He's not the best pass rusher, not even arguably. He gets results, no doubt, but it's because he gets used creatively scheme-wise. If he has to just beat the best OTs in the NFL straight-up he gets real quiet. He was a non-factor in the last 3 Cowboys playoff losses.

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Post#1874 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Aug 2, 2025 2:27 am

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I imagine there are a handful of teams that would be willing to pay that price for someone in the peak of his career.
To be fair, Hendrickson couldn't even fetch 1 first rounder and the past 2 seasons has probably been equal or better than Parsons at rushing the passer.

Maybe being 4.5 years older plays a part but still.

Obviously he’s good but Micah is on another level, even it is just perceived.
Maybe a level below Hendrickson lol

2023 and 2024 combined

Hendrickson: 35 sacks, 61 tackles, 35 TFL, 61 QB hits, 9 pass deflections, 5 forced Fumbles, 89 pressures, 26 hurries

Parsons: 26 sacks, 66 tackles, 30 TFL, 56 QB hits, 3 pass deflections, 3 forced fumbles, 89 pressures, 32 hurries

Like i said the thing i will concede is Parsons is 4.5 years younger but i don't see any team giving up two 1st rounders for him while he still needs to be paid. Hendrickson found the same thing out.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1875 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Aug 2, 2025 3:37 am

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Post#1876 » by QB_Eagles » Sat Aug 2, 2025 8:34 am

Mr B wrote:
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Mr B wrote:If Micah were an offensive lineman or a safety or a kicker I would agree with you. We’re talking about arguably (not that arguable either) the best pass rusher in the NFL. Depending on who you ask that’s either the 2nd or 3rd most important position in football. I would bet that more than half the teams n the league would be more than willing to trade for Micah Parsons/

He's not the best pass rusher, not even arguably. He gets results, no doubt, but it's because he gets used creatively scheme-wise. If he has to just beat the best OTs in the NFL straight-up he gets real quiet. He was a non-factor in the last 3 Cowboys playoff losses.

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Post#1877 » by Lakers In 5 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 8:36 am

We all know how the Parsons drama is going to end: with a contract in Dallas that makes him the highest paid non-QB player ever. Either way, in the end the Cowboys keep losing. All that because Jerry loves the drama and wants to hoard all the attention. There isn't a singular sincere bone in his frame. Yet, the worst part is, the second Jerry passes away the Cowboys will be stuck with an even bigger moron in Stephen.

It's tiresome, even for someone who loves to laugh at the Cowboys.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1878 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 2, 2025 2:10 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Mr B wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:To be fair, Hendrickson couldn't even fetch 1 first rounder and the past 2 seasons has probably been equal or better than Parsons at rushing the passer.

Maybe being 4.5 years older plays a part but still.

Obviously he’s good but Micah is on another level, even it is just perceived.
Maybe a level below Hendrickson lol

2023 and 2024 combined

Hendrickson: 35 sacks, 61 tackles, 35 TFL, 61 QB hits, 9 pass deflections, 5 forced Fumbles, 89 pressures, 26 hurries

Parsons: 26 sacks, 66 tackles, 30 TFL, 56 QB hits, 3 pass deflections, 3 forced fumbles, 89 pressures, 32 hurries

Like i said the thing i will concede is Parsons is 4.5 years younger but i don't see any team giving up two 1st rounders for him while he still needs to be paid. Hendrickson found the same thing out.

Dude you can throw stats and whatever else you want there is NO ONE in the NFL that thinks Hendrickson is better than Micah Parsons. Agree with it or not doesn’t matter.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1879 » by Cactus Jack » Sat Aug 2, 2025 3:47 pm

Mr B wrote:Dude you can throw stats and whatever else you want there is NO ONE in the NFL that thinks Hendrickson is better than Micah Parsons. Agree with it or not doesn’t matter.

That was a rough one last night. :wink:

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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1880 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Aug 2, 2025 3:51 pm

Mr B wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
Mr B wrote:Obviously he’s good but Micah is on another level, even it is just perceived.
Maybe a level below Hendrickson lol

2023 and 2024 combined

Hendrickson: 35 sacks, 61 tackles, 35 TFL, 61 QB hits, 9 pass deflections, 5 forced Fumbles, 89 pressures, 26 hurries

Parsons: 26 sacks, 66 tackles, 30 TFL, 56 QB hits, 3 pass deflections, 3 forced fumbles, 89 pressures, 32 hurries

Like i said the thing i will concede is Parsons is 4.5 years younger but i don't see any team giving up two 1st rounders for him while he still needs to be paid. Hendrickson found the same thing out.

Dude you can throw stats and whatever else you want there is NO ONE in the NFL that thinks Hendrickson is better than Micah Parsons. Agree with it or not doesn’t matter.
Yeah, throw all facts out the window so some Cowboys homer narrative can be true lol

Either way, it's moot. Parsons isn't fetching 2 first round picks, is the point.

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