ImageImageImage

Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs"

Moderators: Dirk, HMFFL, Mavrelous

Jonny Blaze
Veteran
Posts: 2,803
And1: 1,414
Joined: Jun 20, 2011

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#101 » by Jonny Blaze » Sat Aug 2, 2025 3:24 pm

Archx wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Archx wrote:
Have you seen the media press tour Luka is on right now? It's freaking insane the difference between being in Dallas or LA :o And they keep asking him about fitness condition and how Mavs treated him on the way out. He knows first hand who launched those "attacks" against him. Nico denying it makes it even worse lol.



Can you name me the years that Dirk started the season out of shape?
The Mavericks were never going to win a title with an overweight superstar who doesn't play a lick of defense.

The Mavs did go the 24 Finals and the 22 WCF(and in each case they got smoked)....but the Rockets were more successful in the James Harden era than the Luka Mavs were.

Luka, James Harden and Allen Iverson are all world class offensive talents...but their is a limit to a team that is centered around one great player.


There is so much wrong stuff here i won't even go into it because i'm not sure if you're trolling or actually serious. But yeah, i'm sure Harden carried the likes of Dinwiddie and THJ as his 2nd or 3rd option to great lengths. You know what, i'm actually convinced you're trolling right now.

Jonny Blaze wrote:If Luka means that much to you....go be a fan of the Lakers and leave the Mavericks to us real fans.


Where the hell did you even come from? I have never seen you post here now you're telling me how to feel and act? READ AGAIN what i wrote, i even said it's not even about Luka, it's the person behind the scenes that is doing ridiculous things to various respected long time employees. From various insults, firings and just pure disrespect to the point that even Dirk himself distanced himself from the team.

And btw, this is a thread about Nico, Luka and all trade related things. So if YOU don't like it, don't read it, simple as that. :banghead:



Luka fans always resort to insults and ad hominin attacks when someone dare questions their Lord Luka.
The Mavericks were never going to win a championship in the Luka era.

This Mavs team (just like Harden Rockets) was designed for one player to maximize his offensive stat and they were never going to win big. Nico made the right choice.

Dirk gave this franchise 90% of games played for a full decade. Its the biggest reason the Mavs won 50 games for 11 straight years.
The Luka Mavs didn't win...and when they got to the 22 WCF and 24 Finals they got smoked.

I was at Game 3 of the 24 Finals and Luka's performance in the 4th quarter was disgraceful. Luka can get away with crap like that because his fans make every excuse in the world for him.
I'm ready for the Luka fans to leave Dallas.

The Mavericks will be better under AD, Kyrie and Flagg than they ever were in the Luka era. The people that have invested all their time into hating Nico and crying about Luka are going to look stupid when the Mavs win more than 52 games in a regular season.

Listening to you Luka fans constantly whine about Nico makes you think that the Mavs were consistently going 55-27, 60-22...etc under Doncic.
Mavrelous
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Forum Mod - Mavericks
Posts: 19,928
And1: 17,854
Joined: Aug 20, 2020

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#102 » by Mavrelous » Sat Aug 2, 2025 3:40 pm

"Luka fans" were crying in July 2022 after Nico lost Brunson and added McGee and Wood.
"Mavs fans" in this thread were projecting Wood to be Tyson Chandler.
Figures the level of disagreement between the 2 camps.
Defense wins draft lotteries!
Archx
RealGM
Posts: 12,444
And1: 10,181
Joined: Feb 09, 2018
 

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#103 » by Archx » Sat Aug 2, 2025 3:44 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Can you name me the years that Dirk started the season out of shape?

Dirk just recently said in an interview he started taking care of his body seriously only after he was 27yo.


Jonny Blaze wrote:Luka fans always resort to insults and ad hominin attacks

I beg you, please show me EXACT words where you were insulted.

Jonny Blaze wrote:The Mavericks were never going to win a championship in the Luka era.

How do you know that? They were on a great path until Nico blew it up.

Jonny Blaze wrote:Dirk gave this franchise 90% of games played for a full decade. Its the biggest reason the Mavs won 50 games for 11 straight years.
The Luka Mavs didn't win...and when they got to the 22 WCF and 24 Finals they got smoked.

Mavs since 1980 until 2018.

-3 WCF
-2 Finals
-1 Title

Mavs since 2018 until 2025

-2 WCF
-1 Finals

You could say "the new era" was on a very good track to beat all those team records.

Jonny Blaze wrote:The Mavericks will be better under AD, Kyrie and Flagg than they ever were in the Luka era. The people that have invested all their time into hating Nico and crying about Luka are going to look stupid when the Mavs win more than 52 games in a regular season.

Obviously they have a CHANCE to be better. But that is not even a hot take. In the last 2 seasons Mavs finally became a deeper team with a bench that could be a starting lineup for a lot of NBA teams. If they're healthy they absolutely have a great chance to be better. That is very much self explanatory.

Jonny Blaze wrote:Listening to you Luka fans constantly whine about Nico makes you think that the Mavs were consistently going 55-27, 60-22...etc under Doncic.

I think the so called "Luka fans" are not even as much of a problem as you are right now. You're complaining way more. And why does a regular season record need to be the most important factor to show someone's dominance?

02/03... 60 wins = WCF loss
03/04... 52 wins = 1st round loss
04/05... 58 wins = 2nd round loss

06/07... 67 wins = 1st round loss

etc...

So, again, without any context (injuries, mid season trades).. How does regular season record hold any real value when playoffs is ultimately what matters?
Jonny Blaze
Veteran
Posts: 2,803
And1: 1,414
Joined: Jun 20, 2011

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#104 » by Jonny Blaze » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:22 pm

Archx wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Can you name me the years that Dirk started the season out of shape?

Dirk just recently said in an interview he started taking care of his body seriously only after he was 27yo.


Jonny Blaze wrote:Luka fans always resort to insults and ad hominin attacks

I beg you, please show me EXACT words where you were insulted.

Jonny Blaze wrote:The Mavericks were never going to win a championship in the Luka era.

How do you know that? They were on a great path until Nico blew it up.

Jonny Blaze wrote:Dirk gave this franchise 90% of games played for a full decade. Its the biggest reason the Mavs won 50 games for 11 straight years.
The Luka Mavs didn't win...and when they got to the 22 WCF and 24 Finals they got smoked.

Mavs since 1980 until 2018.

-3 WCF
-2 Finals
-1 Title

Mavs since 2018 until 2025

-2 WCF
-1 Finals

You could say "the new era" was on a very good track to beat all those team records.

Jonny Blaze wrote:The Mavericks will be better under AD, Kyrie and Flagg than they ever were in the Luka era. The people that have invested all their time into hating Nico and crying about Luka are going to look stupid when the Mavs win more than 52 games in a regular season.

Obviously they have a CHANCE to be better. But that is not even a hot take. In the last 2 seasons Mavs finally became a deeper team with a bench that could be a starting lineup for a lot of NBA teams. If they're healthy they absolutely have a great chance to be better. That is very much self explanatory.

Jonny Blaze wrote:Listening to you Luka fans constantly whine about Nico makes you think that the Mavs were consistently going 55-27, 60-22...etc under Doncic.

I think the so called "Luka fans" are not even as much of a problem as you are right now. You're complaining way more. And why does a regular season record need to be the most important factor to show someone's dominance?

02/03... 60 wins = WCF loss
03/04... 52 wins = 1st round loss
04/05... 58 wins = 2nd round loss

06/07... 67 wins = 1st round loss

etc...

So, again, without any context (injuries, mid season trades).. How does regular season record hold any real value when playoffs is ultimately what matters?


This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas.

Winning is what matters. Not your favorite player maxing out his stats.
The Mavs wern't competitive at all in the 22 Western Conference Finals or the 24 Finals.

its all good Bro. I don't care if our best player is overweight and doesn't play a lick of defense...I don't even care that a 4 seed is the best seed he ever led the Mavs to....what I care about is that he put up 33, 11 and 14.

Tim Duncan led the Spurs to their first two NBA Championships in his first 7 years in San Antonio. The Spurs won over 50 games in every season Duncan was on the team. The 1999 and 2003 teams were completely different from each other
Tim Duncan is also an elite defensive player in addition to being unstoppable on the low block.

If Luka was leading the Mavs to 53-58 wins a year then he would still be here....but the mavs were headed down this road of being nothing more than a 47-52 win franchise that occasionally could get hot in the playoffs.

The Mavericks have never been an elite defensive team. The teams that win multiple championships are typically the best defensive teams in the league.
The new Mavs ownership vision is to pivot away from being a great offensive ball club that doesn't win a lot in the regular season to being oriented around elite defense.
The Mavs have always been able to score...but stopping people on defense has always been an issue.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,856
And1: 4,563
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Nico Harrison: 

Post#105 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:25 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mr B wrote:Well he got drafted by the Mavs. You know the team this board is for.


I believe first you must show something for era to begin. For example, did 2018 begin the Ayton era in Suns? I don't think so. Anyway, if I'm not mistaken this thread is about Luka trade and Mr. Nico. We have enough threads to discuss Flagg, if we want.

I must say it's interesting how fast some want to forget everything about Luka. Not only forget, apparently his name shouldn't be even mentioned anymore. He had 7 pretty good years in Dallas and some team success too, but with Nico help the main memory seems to be he being fat.

Loyalty never fades away. Apparently not anymore.


52-30 is the best record the Mavs ever had in the Luka era.

Some of you Luka fanatics act like Doncic was leading the Mavs to 55 wins/year for a solid decade.


Dirk never had a supporting cast like the 24-25 Mavs and when Luka got traded the were 26-23.

Luka is an amazing offensive talent, but there is a celling to James Harden, Luka type teams that are led around one player maximizing their offensive stats with a huge usage rating.

The Mavericks are going to be better moving forward than they ever were under Luka.


How many times was Mavs in the Finals or WCF? If Lukas 6 and half years were disappointment then my guess is around 20x.

Luka played 1 season with rookie Lively and few months with PJ and Gafford, that's this great supporting cast. :lol: He was out for month and half before he was traded. Mavs were 2nd or 3rd before he got injured.

Similar as first paragraph, to be better, they will need to be every second year in WCF and Finals. At the moment they're 0/1 for playoffs without Luka.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,856
And1: 4,563
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#106 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:28 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Archx wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Can you name me the years that Dirk started the season out of shape?

Dirk just recently said in an interview he started taking care of his body seriously only after he was 27yo.


Jonny Blaze wrote:Luka fans always resort to insults and ad hominin attacks

I beg you, please show me EXACT words where you were insulted.

Jonny Blaze wrote:The Mavericks were never going to win a championship in the Luka era.

How do you know that? They were on a great path until Nico blew it up.

Jonny Blaze wrote:Dirk gave this franchise 90% of games played for a full decade. Its the biggest reason the Mavs won 50 games for 11 straight years.
The Luka Mavs didn't win...and when they got to the 22 WCF and 24 Finals they got smoked.

Mavs since 1980 until 2018.

-3 WCF
-2 Finals
-1 Title

Mavs since 2018 until 2025

-2 WCF
-1 Finals

You could say "the new era" was on a very good track to beat all those team records.

Jonny Blaze wrote:The Mavericks will be better under AD, Kyrie and Flagg than they ever were in the Luka era. The people that have invested all their time into hating Nico and crying about Luka are going to look stupid when the Mavs win more than 52 games in a regular season.

Obviously they have a CHANCE to be better. But that is not even a hot take. In the last 2 seasons Mavs finally became a deeper team with a bench that could be a starting lineup for a lot of NBA teams. If they're healthy they absolutely have a great chance to be better. That is very much self explanatory.

Jonny Blaze wrote:Listening to you Luka fans constantly whine about Nico makes you think that the Mavs were consistently going 55-27, 60-22...etc under Doncic.

I think the so called "Luka fans" are not even as much of a problem as you are right now. You're complaining way more. And why does a regular season record need to be the most important factor to show someone's dominance?

02/03... 60 wins = WCF loss
03/04... 52 wins = 1st round loss
04/05... 58 wins = 2nd round loss

06/07... 67 wins = 1st round loss

etc...

So, again, without any context (injuries, mid season trades).. How does regular season record hold any real value when playoffs is ultimately what matters?


This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas.

Winning is what matters. Not your favorite player maxing out his stats.
The Mavs wern't competitive at all in the 22 Western Conference Finals or the 24 Finals.

its all good Bro. I don't care if our best player is overweight and doesn't play a lick of defense...I don't even care that a 4 seed is the best seed he ever led the Mavs to....what I care about is that he put up 33, 11 and 14.

Tim Duncan led the Spurs to their first two NBA Championships in his first 7 years in San Antonio. The Spurs won over 50 games in every season Duncan was on the team. The 1999 and 2003 teams were completely different from each other
Tim Duncan is also an elite defensive player in addition to being unstoppable on the low block.

If Luka was leading the Mavs to 53-58 wins a year then he would still be here....but the mavs were headed down this road of being nothing more than a 47-52 win franchise that occasionally could get hot in the playoffs.

The Mavericks have never been an elite defensive team. The teams that win multiple championships are typically the best defensive teams in the league.
The new Mavs ownership vision is to pivot away from being a great offensive ball club that doesn't win a lot in the regular season to being oriented around elite defense.
The Mavs have always been able to score...but stopping people on defense has always been an issue.


I have to say, good job Nico, PR was extremely successful. Fat, lazy Luka is out and "true" Mavs fans hate him. And they hate Luka's fans too. Really Good job.

Btw, what was your contribution in this board till today. ;)
Jonny Blaze
Veteran
Posts: 2,803
And1: 1,414
Joined: Jun 20, 2011

Re: Nico Harrison: 

Post#107 » by Jonny Blaze » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:28 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I believe first you must show something for era to begin. For example, did 2018 begin the Ayton era in Suns? I don't think so. Anyway, if I'm not mistaken this thread is about Luka trade and Mr. Nico. We have enough threads to discuss Flagg, if we want.

I must say it's interesting how fast some want to forget everything about Luka. Not only forget, apparently his name shouldn't be even mentioned anymore. He had 7 pretty good years in Dallas and some team success too, but with Nico help the main memory seems to be he being fat.

Loyalty never fades away. Apparently not anymore.


52-30 is the best record the Mavs ever had in the Luka era.

Some of you Luka fanatics act like Doncic was leading the Mavs to 55 wins/year for a solid decade.


Dirk never had a supporting cast like the 24-25 Mavs and when Luka got traded the were 26-23.

Luka is an amazing offensive talent, but there is a celling to James Harden, Luka type teams that are led around one player maximizing their offensive stats with a huge usage rating.

The Mavericks are going to be better moving forward than they ever were under Luka.


How many times was Mavs in the Finals or WCF? If Lukas 6 and half years were disappointment then my guess is around 20x.

Luka played 1 season with rookie Lively and few months with PJ and Gafford, that's this great supporting cast. :lol: He was out for month and half before he was traded. Mavs were 2nd or 3rd before he got injured.

Similar as first paragraph, to be better, they will need to be every second year in WCF and Finals. At the moment they're 0/1 for playoffs without Luka.


The Mavericks are going to better in the regular season moving forward than they ever were under Luka.
I don't really give a chit about just "getting" to the WCF or Finals if the team isn't competitive.

Luka fans don't seem to realize that we didn't win all that much while he was here.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,856
And1: 4,563
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Nico Harrison: 

Post#108 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:31 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
52-30 is the best record the Mavs ever had in the Luka era.

Some of you Luka fanatics act like Doncic was leading the Mavs to 55 wins/year for a solid decade.


Dirk never had a supporting cast like the 24-25 Mavs and when Luka got traded the were 26-23.

Luka is an amazing offensive talent, but there is a celling to James Harden, Luka type teams that are led around one player maximizing their offensive stats with a huge usage rating.

The Mavericks are going to be better moving forward than they ever were under Luka.


How many times was Mavs in the Finals or WCF? If Lukas 6 and half years were disappointment then my guess is around 20x.

Luka played 1 season with rookie Lively and few months with PJ and Gafford, that's this great supporting cast. :lol: He was out for month and half before he was traded. Mavs were 2nd or 3rd before he got injured.

Similar as first paragraph, to be better, they will need to be every second year in WCF and Finals. At the moment they're 0/1 for playoffs without Luka.


The Mavericks are going to better in the regular season moving forward than they ever were under Luka.
I don't really give a chit about just "getting" to the WCF or Finals if the team isn't competitive.

Luka fans don't seem to realize that we didn't win all that much while he was here.


What success had Dirk in first 6 years and how many titles did he win?

Mavs didn't win all that much as franchise either.
Jonny Blaze
Veteran
Posts: 2,803
And1: 1,414
Joined: Jun 20, 2011

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#109 » by Jonny Blaze » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:31 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Archx wrote:Dirk just recently said in an interview he started taking care of his body seriously only after he was 27yo.



I beg you, please show me EXACT words where you were insulted.


How do you know that? They were on a great path until Nico blew it up.


Mavs since 1980 until 2018.

-3 WCF
-2 Finals
-1 Title

Mavs since 2018 until 2025

-2 WCF
-1 Finals

You could say "the new era" was on a very good track to beat all those team records.


Obviously they have a CHANCE to be better. But that is not even a hot take. In the last 2 seasons Mavs finally became a deeper team with a bench that could be a starting lineup for a lot of NBA teams. If they're healthy they absolutely have a great chance to be better. That is very much self explanatory.


I think the so called "Luka fans" are not even as much of a problem as you are right now. You're complaining way more. And why does a regular season record need to be the most important factor to show someone's dominance?

02/03... 60 wins = WCF loss
03/04... 52 wins = 1st round loss
04/05... 58 wins = 2nd round loss

06/07... 67 wins = 1st round loss

etc...

So, again, without any context (injuries, mid season trades).. How does regular season record hold any real value when playoffs is ultimately what matters?


This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas.

Winning is what matters. Not your favorite player maxing out his stats.
The Mavs wern't competitive at all in the 22 Western Conference Finals or the 24 Finals.

its all good Bro. I don't care if our best player is overweight and doesn't play a lick of defense...I don't even care that a 4 seed is the best seed he ever led the Mavs to....what I care about is that he put up 33, 11 and 14.

Tim Duncan led the Spurs to their first two NBA Championships in his first 7 years in San Antonio. The Spurs won over 50 games in every season Duncan was on the team. The 1999 and 2003 teams were completely different from each other
Tim Duncan is also an elite defensive player in addition to being unstoppable on the low block.

If Luka was leading the Mavs to 53-58 wins a year then he would still be here....but the mavs were headed down this road of being nothing more than a 47-52 win franchise that occasionally could get hot in the playoffs.

The Mavericks have never been an elite defensive team. The teams that win multiple championships are typically the best defensive teams in the league.
The new Mavs ownership vision is to pivot away from being a great offensive ball club that doesn't win a lot in the regular season to being oriented around elite defense.
The Mavs have always been able to score...but stopping people on defense has always been an issue.


I have to say, good job Nico, PR was extremely successful. Fat, lazy Luka is out and "true" Mavs fans hate him. And they hate Luka's fans too. Really Good job.

Btw, what was your contribution in this board till today. ;)


I actually joined this board right after the Mavericks won the 2011 Title.
The Mavs didn't win in the Luka era.

Mediocre regular seasons and two nice playoff runs.
Jonny Blaze
Veteran
Posts: 2,803
And1: 1,414
Joined: Jun 20, 2011

Re: Nico Harrison: 

Post#110 » by Jonny Blaze » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:34 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
How many times was Mavs in the Finals or WCF? If Lukas 6 and half years were disappointment then my guess is around 20x.

Luka played 1 season with rookie Lively and few months with PJ and Gafford, that's this great supporting cast. :lol: He was out for month and half before he was traded. Mavs were 2nd or 3rd before he got injured.

Similar as first paragraph, to be better, they will need to be every second year in WCF and Finals. At the moment they're 0/1 for playoffs without Luka.


The Mavericks are going to better in the regular season moving forward than they ever were under Luka.
I don't really give a chit about just "getting" to the WCF or Finals if the team isn't competitive.

Luka fans don't seem to realize that we didn't win all that much while he was here.


What success had Dirk in first 6 years and how many titles did he win?

Mavs didn't win all that much as franchise either.


Dirk took the Mavericks from being the worst franchise in the NBA (if not all of Pro Sports) to a franchise that for the first time in its history was consistently winning over 55 games a season.

In Dirks 4th and 5th year he led the Mavericks to their best records of all time (57-25, and 60-22) and their first 60 win team in franchise history.

That is was Dirk did in his first 6 years in Dallas.

52-30 and a 4 seed is the best the Mavericks ever did under Luka.
You Luka Stans aren't getting the point....Tim Duncan and Dirk were consistently leading their teams to elite regular seasons record.

All we were doing in the Luka era was Philly under Iverson Part 2. A offensive only superstar that plays no defense and got to one Finals (where they got smoked).

The Mavs will be better moving forward than they ever were under Luka.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,856
And1: 4,563
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#111 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:35 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas.

Winning is what matters. Not your favorite player maxing out his stats.
The Mavs wern't competitive at all in the 22 Western Conference Finals or the 24 Finals.

its all good Bro. I don't care if our best player is overweight and doesn't play a lick of defense...I don't even care that a 4 seed is the best seed he ever led the Mavs to....what I care about is that he put up 33, 11 and 14.

Tim Duncan led the Spurs to their first two NBA Championships in his first 7 years in San Antonio. The Spurs won over 50 games in every season Duncan was on the team. The 1999 and 2003 teams were completely different from each other
Tim Duncan is also an elite defensive player in addition to being unstoppable on the low block.

If Luka was leading the Mavs to 53-58 wins a year then he would still be here....but the mavs were headed down this road of being nothing more than a 47-52 win franchise that occasionally could get hot in the playoffs.

The Mavericks have never been an elite defensive team. The teams that win multiple championships are typically the best defensive teams in the league.
The new Mavs ownership vision is to pivot away from being a great offensive ball club that doesn't win a lot in the regular season to being oriented around elite defense.
The Mavs have always been able to score...but stopping people on defense has always been an issue.


I have to say, good job Nico, PR was extremely successful. Fat, lazy Luka is out and "true" Mavs fans hate him. And they hate Luka's fans too. Really Good job.

Btw, what was your contribution in this board till today. ;)


I actually joined this board right after the Mavericks won the 2011 Title.
The Mavs didn't win in the Luka era.

Mediocre regular seasons and two nice playoff runs.


What have you written about in last 7 years, I honestly don't remember you?
Jonny Blaze
Veteran
Posts: 2,803
And1: 1,414
Joined: Jun 20, 2011

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#112 » by Jonny Blaze » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:40 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
I have to say, good job Nico, PR was extremely successful. Fat, lazy Luka is out and "true" Mavs fans hate him. And they hate Luka's fans too. Really Good job.

Btw, what was your contribution in this board till today. ;)


I actually joined this board right after the Mavericks won the 2011 Title.
The Mavs didn't win in the Luka era.

Mediocre regular seasons and two nice playoff runs.


What have you written about in last 7 years, I honestly don't remember you?


I don't know who you are either...and honestly I don't care.

20 year ago the Mavs let Steve Nash walk...... and in the 3 years after Nash's departure the Mavs had their best 3 years stretch in franchise history going 58-24, 60-22 and 67-15.

Steve Nash was still great, but the Mavs got better because they got more athletic and better defensively.
The same thing is going to happen with Luka.

Luka will still score a ton of points.....but the Mavericks will be better moving forward because they will be elite on defense.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,856
And1: 4,563
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Nico Harrison: 

Post#113 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:41 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
The Mavericks are going to better in the regular season moving forward than they ever were under Luka.
I don't really give a chit about just "getting" to the WCF or Finals if the team isn't competitive.

Luka fans don't seem to realize that we didn't win all that much while he was here.


What success had Dirk in first 6 years and how many titles did he win?

Mavs didn't win all that much as franchise either.


Dirk took the Mavericks from being the worst franchise in the NBA (if not all of Pro Sports) to a franchise that for the first time in its history was consistently winning over 55 games a season.

In Dirks 4th and 5th year he led the Mavericks to their best records of all time (57-25, and 60-22) and their first 60 win team in franchise history.

That is was Dirk did in his first 6 years in Dallas.

52-30 and a 4 seed is the best the Mavericks ever did under Luka.
You Luka Stans aren't getting the point....Tim Duncan and Dirk were consistently leading their teams to elite regular seasons record.

All we were doing in the Luka era was Philly under Iverson Part 2. A offensive only superstar that plays no defense and got to one Finals (where they got smoked).

The Mavs will be better moving forward than they ever were under Luka.


Why don't you simply say, I hate Luka, I have always hated him and I'm glad he's gone? Ok, you have said the last part.
Jonny Blaze
Veteran
Posts: 2,803
And1: 1,414
Joined: Jun 20, 2011

Re: Nico Harrison: 

Post#114 » by Jonny Blaze » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:48 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
What success had Dirk in first 6 years and how many titles did he win?

Mavs didn't win all that much as franchise either.


Dirk took the Mavericks from being the worst franchise in the NBA (if not all of Pro Sports) to a franchise that for the first time in its history was consistently winning over 55 games a season.

In Dirks 4th and 5th year he led the Mavericks to their best records of all time (57-25, and 60-22) and their first 60 win team in franchise history.

That is was Dirk did in his first 6 years in Dallas.

52-30 and a 4 seed is the best the Mavericks ever did under Luka.
You Luka Stans aren't getting the point....Tim Duncan and Dirk were consistently leading their teams to elite regular seasons record.

All we were doing in the Luka era was Philly under Iverson Part 2. A offensive only superstar that plays no defense and got to one Finals (where they got smoked).

The Mavs will be better moving forward than they ever were under Luka.


Why don't you simply say, I hate Luka, I have always hated him and I'm glad he's gone? Ok, you have said the last part.



I don't hate Luka...but I'm going to fill you in on something, The Mavs could have and should have won Game 3 of the 24 NBA Finals.

That series should have gone at least 6 games if not 7. Every Luka stan hangs onto the 24 Finals has this huge achievement but I would only say that if they went down swinging in the Finals like 25 Indiana.
The Mavs got blown out by the Celtics in nearly every game in the 24 Finals....just like the Warriors did to us in 22.

Picking up 4 fouls in the 4th quarter and fouling out with 4 minutes left in the game was disgraceful.
When I walked out of the AAC that night it was the first time that I really wondered if Luka had what it took to be a champion....and what I found out 8 months later was that I wasn't the only one in the Mavs organization that had these thoughts.

The whining, lack of discpiline and lack of defense was all on display during that 4th quarter.

Dirk never had a supporting like last years team. Last year was the year that Luka should have led this team to 57-62 wins, won an MVP ....but instead he shows up to training camp overweight and out of shape and then has to miss time the first month of the season.

But...he averaged 33, 10 and 11....its all good. I don't care if he plays a lick of defense or if the Mavs ever win.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,856
And1: 4,563
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Nico Harrison: 

Post#115 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 4:57 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Dirk took the Mavericks from being the worst franchise in the NBA (if not all of Pro Sports) to a franchise that for the first time in its history was consistently winning over 55 games a season.

In Dirks 4th and 5th year he led the Mavericks to their best records of all time (57-25, and 60-22) and their first 60 win team in franchise history.

That is was Dirk did in his first 6 years in Dallas.

52-30 and a 4 seed is the best the Mavericks ever did under Luka.
You Luka Stans aren't getting the point....Tim Duncan and Dirk were consistently leading their teams to elite regular seasons record.

All we were doing in the Luka era was Philly under Iverson Part 2. A offensive only superstar that plays no defense and got to one Finals (where they got smoked).

The Mavs will be better moving forward than they ever were under Luka.


Why don't you simply say, I hate Luka, I have always hated him and I'm glad he's gone? Ok, you have said the last part.



I don't hate Luka...but I'm going to fill you in on something, The Mavs could have and should have won Game 3 of the 24 NBA Finals.

That series should have gone at least 6 games if not 7. Every Luka stan hangs onto the 24 Finals has this huge achievement but I would only say that if they went down swinging in the Finals like 25 Indiana.
The Mavs got blown out by the Celtics in nearly every game in the 24 Finals....just like the Warriors did to us in 22.

Picking up 4 fouls in the 4th quarter and fouling out with 4 minutes left in the game was disgraceful.
When I walked out of the AAC that night it was the first time that I really wondered if Luka had what it took to be a champion....and what I found out 8 months later was that I wasn't the only one in the Mavs organization that had these thoughts.

The whining, lack of discpiline and lack of defense was all on display during that 4th quarter.

Dirk never had a supporting like last years team. Last year was the year that Luka should have led this team to 57-62 wins, won an MVP ....but instead he shows up to training camp overweight and out of shape and then has to miss time the first month of the season.

But...he averaged 33, 10 and 11....its all good. I don't care if he plays a lick of defense or if the Mavs ever win.


Sure you hate him, it's pure hate.

You might check dates. ;)

Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=ZwFe0o3ePrgaWOU-eXvWaw

Luka was extremely prepared before the season they went in Finals. Sadly enough Kyrie&co. were out for a month and a half, so he had to play 40 minutes + in that period and sometimes scored 70+ points for Mavs even staying alive. He basically played playoffs minutes and intensity for 92 games, which nobody can sustain. He played the most minutes, RS and playoffs, and had the biggest usage rate in the Nba that season. Not to mention winning scoring title.

Do you really believe unprepared, lazy dude can do something like that?

But hey, you will not needed to cheer for Luka, when he will be destroying Mavs next decade. So I guess win-win. :D
Archx
RealGM
Posts: 12,444
And1: 10,181
Joined: Feb 09, 2018
 

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#116 » by Archx » Sat Aug 2, 2025 5:04 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Archx wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
Can you name me the years that Dirk started the season out of shape?

Dirk just recently said in an interview he started taking care of his body seriously only after he was 27yo.


Jonny Blaze wrote:Luka fans always resort to insults and ad hominin attacks

I beg you, please show me EXACT words where you were insulted.

Jonny Blaze wrote:The Mavericks were never going to win a championship in the Luka era.

How do you know that? They were on a great path until Nico blew it up.

Jonny Blaze wrote:Dirk gave this franchise 90% of games played for a full decade. Its the biggest reason the Mavs won 50 games for 11 straight years.
The Luka Mavs didn't win...and when they got to the 22 WCF and 24 Finals they got smoked.

Mavs since 1980 until 2018.

-3 WCF
-2 Finals
-1 Title

Mavs since 2018 until 2025

-2 WCF
-1 Finals

You could say "the new era" was on a very good track to beat all those team records.

Jonny Blaze wrote:The Mavericks will be better under AD, Kyrie and Flagg than they ever were in the Luka era. The people that have invested all their time into hating Nico and crying about Luka are going to look stupid when the Mavs win more than 52 games in a regular season.

Obviously they have a CHANCE to be better. But that is not even a hot take. In the last 2 seasons Mavs finally became a deeper team with a bench that could be a starting lineup for a lot of NBA teams. If they're healthy they absolutely have a great chance to be better. That is very much self explanatory.

Jonny Blaze wrote:Listening to you Luka fans constantly whine about Nico makes you think that the Mavs were consistently going 55-27, 60-22...etc under Doncic.

I think the so called "Luka fans" are not even as much of a problem as you are right now. You're complaining way more. And why does a regular season record need to be the most important factor to show someone's dominance?

02/03... 60 wins = WCF loss
03/04... 52 wins = 1st round loss
04/05... 58 wins = 2nd round loss

06/07... 67 wins = 1st round loss

etc...

So, again, without any context (injuries, mid season trades).. How does regular season record hold any real value when playoffs is ultimately what matters?


This is a classic Luka stan argument...and again... its the reason I'm glad his fanbase will soon be exiting Dallas.

Winning is what matters. Not your favorite player maxing out his stats.
The Mavs wern't competitive at all in the 22 Western Conference Finals or the 24 Finals.

its all good Bro. I don't care if our best player is overweight and doesn't play a lick of defense...I don't even care that a 4 seed is the best seed he ever led the Mavs to....what I care about is that he put up 33, 11 and 14.

Tim Duncan led the Spurs to their first two NBA Championships in his first 7 years in San Antonio. The Spurs won over 50 games in every season Duncan was on the team. The 1999 and 2003 teams were completely different from each other
Tim Duncan is also an elite defensive player in addition to being unstoppable on the low block.

If Luka was leading the Mavs to 53-58 wins a year then he would still be here....but the mavs were headed down this road of being nothing more than a 47-52 win franchise that occasionally could get hot in the playoffs.

The Mavericks have never been an elite defensive team. The teams that win multiple championships are typically the best defensive teams in the league.
The new Mavs ownership vision is to pivot away from being a great offensive ball club that doesn't win a lot in the regular season to being oriented around elite defense.
The Mavs have always been able to score...but stopping people on defense has always been an issue.


Your only counter arguments are "Luka stan" and then you proceed to make claims that are not even remotely true. Mavs played insanely good defense through the playoffs, they won more games with defense than offense, even vs Celtics they played the best defense out of any team, that is a statistical fact. I won't go into details anymore because with previous post you have proven you don't care about statistics. It's basically whatever you say must be true.

But whatever, i don't even have a clue what are you even arguing here anymore. You quoted a lot of people and made a lot of false claims in the process, and on top you're also calling us Luka stans, even though my post you quoted had nothing to do with him. Not sure if Mavrelous will have to sort this mess out at the end but whatever you're trying to do here is very counter productive.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,856
And1: 4,563
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#117 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 5:04 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Jonny Blaze wrote:
I actually joined this board right after the Mavericks won the 2011 Title.
The Mavs didn't win in the Luka era.

Mediocre regular seasons and two nice playoff runs.


What have you written about in last 7 years, I honestly don't remember you?


I don't know who you are either...and honestly I don't care.

20 year ago the Mavs let Steve Nash walk...... and in the 3 years after Nash's departure the Mavs had their best 3 years stretch in franchise history going 58-24, 60-22 and 67-15.

Steve Nash was still great, but the Mavs got better because they got more athletic and better defensively.
The same thing is going to happen with Luka.

Luka will still score a ton of points.....but the Mavericks will be better moving forward because they will be elite on defense.


You can't remember me, because you weren't here.
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,856
And1: 4,563
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Nico Harrison: 

Post#118 » by Bob8 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 5:27 pm

Mr B wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mr B wrote:Well he got drafted by the Mavs. You know the team this board is for.


I believe first you must show something for era to begin. For example, did 2018 begin the Ayton era in Suns? I don't think so. Anyway, if I'm not mistaken this thread is about Luka trade and Mr. Nico. We have enough threads to discuss Flagg, if we want.

I must say it's interesting how fast some want to forget everything about Luka. Not only forget, apparently his name shouldn't be even mentioned anymore. He had 7 pretty good years in Dallas and some team success too, but with Nico help the main memory seems to be he being fat.

Loyalty never fades away. Apparently not anymore.

Did the Luka era being in 2018?


Luka's era began when he has gotten the keys and showed he can lead Mavs.
Mr B
RealGM
Posts: 18,182
And1: 5,367
Joined: Nov 20, 2014
         

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#119 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 2, 2025 5:35 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Mr B wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:
Dude, nolens volens, no Mavs fan will ever forget Luka, he's still the 2nd most important player in this franchise history and nobody can take it away from him.
But reality is Luka era in Dallas is over, and that's a fact we all have to deal with, unfortunately we can't change the past, he's a Laker now.

There is an argument to be made that Kidd is the second most important player in franchise history. From being the #2 overall pick by the Mavs to (like Luka) being traded from a team you didn’t want to leave, to coming back and helping Dirk and the Mavs finally get that elusive Championship.



Jason Kidd is not more important to the Mavs then Jason Terry, Mary Agguire, Ro Blackmon, or Luka.

Kidd was at best the 5th best player on the title team behind Dirk, JET, Matrix and Tyson Chandler.
Until the 2024 Finals Jason Terry and Dirk were the only two Mavericks to play on both Western Conference Championship teams.

You might have a case with Ro or Aguirre. Terry is close and will always be one of my favorite players but Kidd was more important to that 2011 team than Terry was. The Mavs would have got scoring from someone in that team. What they couldn’t replicate though was Kidd’s leadership at the PG position. Go back and watch that 2011 season. Whenever the game got out of control or “helter skelter” Kidd was the one that calmed the team down. Dirk was the leader and best player but Kidd drove that bus.
Mr B
RealGM
Posts: 18,182
And1: 5,367
Joined: Nov 20, 2014
         

Re: Nico Harrison: "There's no regrets on the Luka Doncic trade. Part of it is doing the best thing for Mavs" 

Post#120 » by Mr B » Sat Aug 2, 2025 5:38 pm

Jonny Blaze wrote:
Archx wrote:
Mr B wrote:I did read the article and it was clearly written from an emotional point of view. I understand that too because of what Luka means to a lot of fans in Dallas.

Rational thinking people though can look at this team and see that they are built to contend. Is the team perfect? Nope, but neither is any other team that is contending. We will see where this team is at come playoff time.


Argument is not about the team and neither it is about Luka. It's about the fact that Nico is an egomaniac who can't take no for an answer and doesn't let anyone else have any kind of influence.
He even tricked Dumont and launched made up stories about the star player he just traded. He kicked out Casey in the worst possible way to the point that even Dirk distanced himself from the team.

The team that he has now.. well, like i said, call it a luck or whatever. Majority of Mavs fanbase won't be happy until he's gone, even if this team wins a ring. They'll cheer for the players and specially Flagg (which is the right thing to do) but Nico absolutely needs to go.



Speak for yourself......around the league and different cities its starting to really weird people out the obsession certain people in Dallas have with Luka.
The Mavs are not the first franchise to move away from a superstar player. The Mavs moved off Mark Agguire in 1989, Jason Kidd in 96 and Steve Nash in 2004...so this isnt the first time this has happened.

If Luka means that much to you....go be a fan of the Lakers and leave the Mavericks to us real fans.

Luka wasn’t even the first superstar PG they have let go.

Return to Dallas Mavericks