Kuminga sign and trade Bulls interest

[drosestruts]

I don't really disagree with any of these stances. If Kuminga's game doesn't grow or evolve in a positive way, who he is today isn't all that helpful.

I view him almost like a more expensive draft pick - you'd be adding someone like Kuminga for the potential of what they could be. Keep the strengths and improvements to his weaknesses and faults - and there's a good player there.

I don't view Kuminga as a finished product. If you do, I understand why he wouldn't be of interest.

Unless you're an elite talent/prospect, basketball fit matters a lot for development. An expensive, non-elite draft pick that doesn't fit your roster is an immediate poor use of money.

Kuminga is very talented, and he may not be a finished product. But, he doesn't fit with the personnel here. So, how would he develop any further than what he is? He needs a team where there is space for him to be the player he is today, and that's not Chicago.

I think he'd benefit from our up-tempo, fast-paced offense.

It's also always been a matter of price - for a while there it looked like Kuminga could potentially be had for cheap. Granted that no longer looks like the case if the Warriors are turning down Monk and a lottery protected 1st.

I'm not sure what our better offer would even be - Coby and pick. At that point I'm not all that interested.

[dougthonus]

I don't really disagree with any of these stances. If Kuminga's game doesn't grow or evolve in a positive way, who he is today isn't all that helpful.

I view him almost like a more expensive draft pick - you'd be adding someone like Kuminga for the potential of what they could be. Keep the strengths and improvements to his weaknesses and faults - and there's a good player there.

I don't view Kuminga as a finished product. If you do, I understand why he wouldn't be of interest.

Fundamentally, I think the case for Kuminga is the case of:
We need more attempts at star players, and he still feels like he has some upside and is gettable, so qualifies as an attempt, and it's not so easy to generate attempts.

My counter case is:
Attempts that cost you draft picks, rotation players that might be movable for draft assets, don't fit your roster, and will remove your cap room next year, cost more future upside than the upside they provide.

So I'd say there is a non zero chance that Kuminga becomes a guy you'd want in the future, but if the package is say the Portland Pick, Ayo, Jalen Smith, and a reduction in cap room next year, then I think the odds collectively of those other four things helping you are higher.

[Am2626]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6529661/2025/08/01/jonathan-kuminga-warriors-nba-free-agency-qualifying-offer/

Per team sources, the talks between the Suns and Warriors have never progressed in any serious manner. So while it’s certainly notable that Phoenix is being so aggressive with its contract offer — four years and a combined $90 million, per ESPN — that part is irrelevant so long as Golden State continues to show zero interest in what the Suns have to offer.

As for the Kings, who last spoke with the Warriors earlier this week, team sources say they’ve offered a three-year, $63 million deal for Kuminga in a proposal that would send veteran guard Malik Monk and their 2030 first-round pick (lottery protected) to the Warriors (that deal would require the Warriors to move more salary elsewhere to stay under the first apron, likely Moses Moody or Buddy Hield). If that pick didn’t convey, then the Warriors would get the least favorable of the Kings or San Antonio’s first-round pick in 2031. Those protections have been the primary sticking point, team sources said, as the Warriors have insisted that the first-rounder be unprotected. Thus, the stalemate.

Looks like Kings / Suns offers are 21M AAV and 22.5M AAV respectively.

The Suns don't have anywhere near enough trade juice. The Kings are probably close, but GS is asking for protection to be removed (likely won't happen). Kuminga reportedly wants to go to the Kings.

Kings want to get even more mediocre.

With DeRozan and LaVine already on the Kings where does Kuminga fit in to be a starter. The Kings also have Sabonis so don’t see where the big minutes are for Kuminga with the Kings. Seems like a bad fit.

[MrSparkle]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6529661/2025/08/01/jonathan-kuminga-warriors-nba-free-agency-qualifying-offer/



Looks like Kings / Suns offers are 21M AAV and 22.5M AAV respectively.

The Suns don't have anywhere near enough trade juice. The Kings are probably close, but GS is asking for protection to be removed (likely won't happen). Kuminga reportedly wants to go to the Kings.

Kings want to get even more mediocre.

With DeRozan and LaVine already on the Kings where does Kuminga fit in to be a starter. The Kings also have Sabonis so don’t see where the big minutes are for Kuminga with the Kings. Seems like a bad fit.

Well, Sacramento, like Chicago, is throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. We are now sister franchises.

[kodo]

With DeRozan and LaVine already on the Kings where does Kuminga fit in to be a starter. The Kings also have Sabonis so don’t see where the big minutes are for Kuminga with the Kings. Seems like a bad fit.

They also have Keegan Murray their 4th pick at forward, and still expect him to be part of their core. And it's reported they will not trade Murray for Kuminga.
"Keegan Murray and Keon Ellis off limits in potential Jonathan Kuminga-Kings trade
The Kings keep sending offers, and the Warriors keep denying."

[Dez]

Kings want to get even more mediocre.

With DeRozan and LaVine already on the Kings where does Kuminga fit in to be a starter. The Kings also have Sabonis so don’t see where the big minutes are for Kuminga with the Kings. Seems like a bad fit.

Well, Sacramento, like Chicago, is throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. We are now sister franchises.

Not really comparable, Chicago for all it's flaws isn't currently a ill-fitting roster and we'll have clear books essentially after this season.

The Kings are a mismatched s***-show from both financially and roster construction points of view.

[PaKii94]

Lololol sactown has become must watch tv

[DuckIII]

Kings want to get even more mediocre.

With DeRozan and LaVine already on the Kings where does Kuminga fit in to be a starter. The Kings also have Sabonis so don’t see where the big minutes are for Kuminga with the Kings. Seems like a bad fit.

Well, Sacramento, like Chicago, is throwing **** at the wall and seeing what sticks. We are now sister franchises.

Nah. Our team has a pretty clear vision now.

[MGB8]

I wonder if the Bulls could get in on the Sactown-GS Kuminga trade to take a flier on Devin Carter. The Portland pick and Jevon Carter? I don’t value the Portland pick much, and a flier on another guard who can defend at the POA and has any sort of potential on offense would be worth while to me.

[Red8911]

Lololol sactown has become must watch tv

It sure is but at this point what should they even do ? They can’t trade Zach or Demar, so might as well add another talented player and see if anything good happens out of it.

Probably won’t make much of a difference but better for them to try something rather than stay put and do nothing.

It was funny though to watch Zach and Demar fail together yet again, we all knew how that would go… Except the kings I guess.

[Mk0]

Lololol sactown has become must watch tv

Nah... it really isn't

[eierluke]

Kuminga in theory would be a very good fit for Sacramento - as their 6th man.
Since his self-perception is that he feels like a star, this is just theory and trouble would be inevitable

[sco]

Kuminga in theory would be a very good fit for Sacramento - as their 6th man.
Since his self-perception is that he feels like a star, this is just theory and trouble would be inevitable

IMO Sacto's whole starting line-up would be a good fit at 6th man (except Sabonis).

[Evil_Headband]

The Kings roster will probably almost completely turnover within a few years. They should be collecting assets. I think Kuminga on a bargain contract makes sense but they certainly shouldn't be giving up a good pick.

[sco]

The Kings roster will probably almost completely turnover within a few years. They should be collecting assets. I think Kuminga on a bargain contract makes sense but they certainly shouldn't be giving up a good pick.

good point. What is a pick that folks wouldn't mind giving up? Non-lotto? Top 10? Top 5(JK)?

[meekrab]

The Kings roster will probably almost completely turnover within a few years. They should be collecting assets. I think Kuminga on a bargain contract makes sense but they certainly shouldn't be giving up a good pick.

GSW are seemingly self-deluded into believing they're going to get full value for Kuminga even on a S&T.

[sco]

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/warriors-jonathan-kuminga-gets-45-222711238.html

NBA insider Marc Stein has said that a two-year, $45 million deal is on the table from the Warriors, but Kuminga isn't biting on the contract that would include a team option in the second year.

[kodo]

Lololol sactown has become must watch tv

Nah... it really isn't

As much as I respect the dude, I hate watching Demar-ball. It's so much foul baiting and arm sweeping.

Sacramento went from 3rd in 3PA the season before to 24th this season.

[sco]

Looks like GSW is shutting down trade discussions https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/warriors-decision-trading-jonathan-kuminga-155406784.html

Surprising, given the Sacto offer. But at least we appear safe for the moment.

[DuckIII]

Looks like GSW is shutting down trade discussions https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/warriors-decision-trading-jonathan-kuminga-155406784.html

Surprising, given the Sacto offer. But at least we appear safe for the moment.

When a team with a player can't get what they want from other teams for that player, they always say they have decided to not trade the player. And then often trade him.

Maybe they mean it. I can see why GS would want to keep him for a year or two in their position. But these types of reports are often just about trying to scare other teams into offering more.