Possible NBA and EuroLeague Agreement For NBA Europe League (NBA EuroLeague)

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Re: Possible NBA and EuroLeague Agreement For "NBA Europe League" 

Post#41 » by SNPA » Sun Jul 27, 2025 6:53 pm

miamiheat319 wrote:Silver will literally do anything but put a team back in Seattle

Silver doesn’t get to vote. The other owners don’t care about anything but money. There’s no nostalgia, that’s only for fans.
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Re: Possible NBA and EuroLeague Agreement For NBA Europe League (NBA EuroLeague) 

Post#42 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jul 27, 2025 6:54 pm

Village Idiot wrote:I'd rather see the NBA transform into a global basketball league with three divisions:

North America - NBA
Europa - EBL
Asia - Pacific - APBL

In each division you would have promotion and relegation with a second division with the second division in Europe and APAC being the current national leagues.

NBA 24 first division teams, 16 2nd division
EBL - 16 first
APBL - 16 first

during the regular season teams would only play on within their own leagues. EBL winner plays APBL winner in one semifinal with the winner going on the the Global championship.

To add some spice you could have an in-season tournament with the top 8 in the standings from the NBA and 4 best from the other two meeting in a Christmas week tournament varying with every other year in North America and every fourth year on one of the other continents.

Just have the nba cup include euro league entrants. I don't get why these games "have to count."

Have a tournament and include euro league teams. Make it is the stars don't have to play if they don't want to.


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Post#43 » by jfs1000d » Sun Jul 27, 2025 6:55 pm

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Village Idiot wrote:I'd rather see the NBA transform into a global basketball league with three divisions:

North America - NBA
Europa - EBL
Asia - Pacific - APBL

In each division you would have promotion and relegation with a second division with the second division in Europe and APAC being the current national leagues.

NBA 24 first division teams, 16 2nd division
EBL - 16 first
APBL - 16 first

during the regular season teams would only play on within their own leagues. EBL winner plays APBL winner in one semifinal with the winner going on the the Global championship.

To add some spice you could have an in-season tournament with the top 8 in the standings from the NBA and 4 best from the other two meeting in a Christmas week tournament varying with every other year in North America and every fourth year on one of the other continents.


European sports media has already reported that part of the NBA Europe League deal could be that something like the top 2 or top 4 teams in the Europe division, which if there is a deal with the EuroLeague, that would mean the top 2 or top 4 teams in the EuroLeague standings, might play in the NBA Cup tournament.

Either by taking the top 2 or top 4 teams from the previous season, so that would mean the previous season's EuroLeague Final Four teams, like a European SuperCup model, or taking the top 2 or top 4 teams in the EuroLeague regular season standings, at the midpoint of the season, like a European League Cup model.

Exactly. Love it.


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Re: Possible NBA and EuroLeague Agreement For NBA Europe League (NBA EuroLeague) 

Post#44 » by meekrab » Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:07 pm

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meekrab wrote:I don't know what the NBA would get out of having a minor league in Europe. Nobody's going to wake up at 6am in January to watch the Madrid Bullfighters take on the Berlin Sauerkraut.

lol. Not a minor league. A Europe NBA branded league for people from Europe.


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A Europe National Basketball Association? :lol: You know Europe is like 30+ nations right?
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Post#45 » by Mirotic12 » Sun Jul 27, 2025 8:22 pm

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jfs1000d wrote:
meekrab wrote:I don't know what the NBA would get out of having a minor league in Europe. Nobody's going to wake up at 6am in January to watch the Madrid Bullfighters take on the Berlin Sauerkraut.

lol. Not a minor league. A Europe NBA branded league for people from Europe.


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A Europe National Basketball Association? :lol: You know Europe is like 30+ nations right?


Well technically, the NBA is an international league, not a domestic one. It's USA / Canada, not just the USA.

The NBA name was already irrelevant and incorrect as soon as there were teams in Canada.
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Re: Possible NBA and EuroLeague Agreement For "NBA Europe League" 

Post#46 » by Warspite » Mon Jul 28, 2025 12:21 am

SNPA wrote:Where the Seattle and Vegas guaranteed people at? Ya’ll think the NBA is going to do both?



Doesn't one lead to the other? If you want to expand the teams, you need to expand the player base.
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Re: Possible NBA and EuroLeague Agreement For "NBA Europe League" 

Post#47 » by DoItALL9 » Fri Aug 1, 2025 5:44 pm

Warspite wrote:
SNPA wrote:Where the Seattle and Vegas guaranteed people at? Ya’ll think the NBA is going to do both?



Doesn't one lead to the other? If you want to expand the teams, you need to expand the player base.
It looks like "NBA expansion" is probably dead for awhile.

Maybe, "NBA Euro" could be creative and have a Far Western division in addition to their 10 teams that includes Montreal, Quebec, Seattle, Las Vegas, Louisville, and Vancouver.

If NBA Euro needed 8 teams then add Kansas City and Virginia Beach\Norfolk, VA too.
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Post#48 » by wco81 » Fri Aug 1, 2025 7:34 pm

jfs1000d wrote:
meekrab wrote:I don't know what the NBA would get out of having a minor league in Europe. Nobody's going to wake up at 6am in January to watch the Madrid Bullfighters take on the Berlin Sauerkraut.

lol. Not a minor league. A Europe NBA branded league for people from Europe.


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Do they care? Europeans love football far more than basketball and basketball in Europe is a more distant second sport than the NBA is in the US.

Also they play exhibition games between NBA teams and some European teams. Never competitive and there's no reason they would be since NBA payrolls are much higher.


It would be kind of cool if players developed in Europe can be drafted or traded to the NBA without having to buy out the player's contract but European teams would never go for that, since it's one of their main revenue sources, sign up 14-year olds and if they become good players, sell their rights.
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Post#49 » by Mirotic12 » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:07 pm

wco81 wrote:Do they care? Europeans love football far more than basketball and basketball in Europe is a more distant second sport than the NBA is in the US.

Also they play exhibition games between NBA teams and some European teams. Never competitive and there's no reason they would be since NBA payrolls are much higher.


It would be kind of cool if players developed in Europe can be drafted or traded to the NBA without having to buy out the player's contract but European teams would never go for that, since it's one of their main revenue sources, sign up 14-year olds and if they become good players, sell their rights.


EuroLeage teams have 17 wins against NBA teams, and that was playing the games with NBA rules and refs.
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Post#50 » by wco81 » Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:08 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
wco81 wrote:Do they care? Europeans love football far more than basketball and basketball in Europe is a more distant second sport than the NBA is in the US.

Also they play exhibition games between NBA teams and some European teams. Never competitive and there's no reason they would be since NBA payrolls are much higher.


It would be kind of cool if players developed in Europe can be drafted or traded to the NBA without having to buy out the player's contract but European teams would never go for that, since it's one of their main revenue sources, sign up 14-year olds and if they become good players, sell their rights.


EuroLeage teams have 17 wins against NBA teams, and that was playing the games with NBA rules and refs.


And how many losses?
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Re: Possible NBA and EuroLeague Agreement For NBA Europe League (NBA EuroLeague) 

Post#51 » by wco81 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 7:16 pm

Silver is trying to get European teams to pay $500 million to $1 billion each to join NBA Europe.

Commissioner Adam Silver has been in Europe this past week, talking up the NBA's vision and selling it to potential stakeholders in the new venture, including Real Madrid, reports Joe Varden of The Athletic . Part of what Silver and the league are pitching is a $500 million per team franchise fee to buy in, reports the Sports Business Journal .

The NBA is pursuing franchise fees of more than $500M from teams looking to join the prospective NBA Europe, with multiple sources maintaining the league's preferred number is somewhere between half a billion and $1B....

Franchise valuations are also said to be part of ancillary discussions with banks and private equity conglomerates, as part of an effort to settle on a dollar figure. An official from one EuroLeague franchise had earlier scoffed at a proposed $500M figure, and -- considering the template for NBA Europe includes existing EuroLeague clubs -- it seemed unclear whether teams will be priced out of joining.

See why NBA owners like this idea? They could secure a share of these massive franchise fees — at least 10 teams at half a billion each is $5 billion at minimum, about what the expansion fee would be for a team in Seattle or Las Vegas — without having to give up any of their new national television revenue or equity in the league.


Read in NBC Sports: https://apple.news/AnbzCpThIS6q-EXBsgc4Q8w

NBA sees potential to grow revenues in Europe:

The NBA believes there is money left on the table in Europe, in areas such as broadcast rights and getting new, larger arenas built. What the NBA touts is its brand name and its business acumen — the ability to squeeze every dollar out of the business of basketball. What Real Madrid and teams such as FC Barcelona or Fenerbahçe Istanbul bring is history and a built-in fan base for the league.

We're still a few years away from an NBA league in Europe, but it has become a growing focus for the league. From an existing NBA owner's perspective, it's easy to see why this is attractive. We'll see if the European clubs (and fan bases) feel the same way.



One way they'd raise revenues would be to tap into the Middle Eastern sovereign wealth money which has flooded the European football leagues.

NBA doesn't allow sovereign wealth funds to buy controlling shares of NBA teams. But apparently they would have no such restrictions for NBA Europe clubs.
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Post#52 » by Mirotic12 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 7:33 pm

The NBA talking about the EuroLeague teams needing to build new bigger arenas to be able to join this proposed NBA Europe League is nonsense.

All of the teams either play in such arenas already, are currently expanding their arenas, are already building new arenas, and/or have such arenas available to use in their area already.

The NBA talking about the teams needing new arenas is proof that they have no clue what they are talking about. EuroLeague has already been working on that arena project for years.

Even Monaco is building a new state of the art arena.

No way are EuroLeague teams going to agree to build new arenas when they have already recently built them, are currently building them, recently did huge renovation projects, or are currently doing huge renovation projects.

That's the kind of nonsense from the NBA that can't be taken seriously.
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Post#53 » by LuDux1 » Sat Aug 2, 2025 9:24 pm

original article
https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/07/31/nba-europe-franchise-fees-likely-to-exceed-500m

NBA Europe franchise fees likely to exceed $500M
NBA could pass on league if offers are low
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Post#54 » by Mephariel » Sat Aug 2, 2025 10:57 pm

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LakerLegend wrote:If the nba can pull this off the talent pool will explode.


I'm not sure about that - or rather, I kinda think it's already exploding and that's why the NBA probably needs to act now before an independent European team is able to steal a prime star from the NBA.

If, say, in the 2028 Olympics we end up with a France-Serbia Gold Medal match, and then Wemby/Jokic/etc gets contract offers from European teams that roughly match what they can get in the NBA, all of a sudden the NBA isn't going to be in the driver's seat like they've been ever since the fall of the Berlin Wall.


Is that really that big of a deal? Jokic would be like 35 years old by 2028. Wemby isn't even that big of a star yet.
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Re: Possible NBA and EuroLeague Agreement For NBA Europe League 

Post#55 » by Doctor MJ » Sat Aug 2, 2025 11:19 pm

Mephariel wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:If the nba can pull this off the talent pool will explode.


I'm not sure about that - or rather, I kinda think it's already exploding and that's why the NBA probably needs to act now before an independent European team is able to steal a prime star from the NBA.

If, say, in the 2028 Olympics we end up with a France-Serbia Gold Medal match, and then Wemby/Jokic/etc gets contract offers from European teams that roughly match what they can get in the NBA, all of a sudden the NBA isn't going to be in the driver's seat like they've been ever since the fall of the Berlin Wall.


Is that really that big of a deal? Jokic would be like 35 years old by 2028. Wemby isn't even that big of a star yet.


Can't really know until we see what happens.

Much here is effectively dependent on the idea that some foreign stars would rather never have to leave their home continent to come to the US, and so once some other league can also seriously claim to have top pro competition while paying NBA+ money, that's what they'll do.

If, on the other hand, coming to America is something they actively want, then the NBA will be all the harder to poach from.
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Post#56 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Aug 3, 2025 3:41 am

Mirotic12 wrote:The NBA talking about the EuroLeague teams needing to build new bigger arenas to be able to join this proposed NBA Europe League is nonsense.

All of the teams either play in such arenas already, are currently expanding their arenas, are already building new arenas, and/or have such arenas available to use in their area already.

The NBA talking about the teams needing new arenas is proof that they have no clue what they are talking about. EuroLeague has already been working on that arena project for years.

Even Monaco is building a new state of the art arena.

No way are EuroLeague teams going to agree to build new arenas when they have already recently built them, are currently building them, recently did huge renovation projects, or are currently doing huge renovation projects.

That's the kind of nonsense from the NBA that can't be taken seriously.


Oh my god… they are upgrading their 5000 seat arena…to a new arena…

Wow…

Jeezzzz

I can’t believe it…
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Post#57 » by LakerLegend » Sun Aug 3, 2025 8:49 pm

Looks like the NBA is rushing to do this because of the threat posed by the potential Saudi/LeBron league:

https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2025/07/31/nba-europe-franchise-fees-likely-to-exceed-500m/
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Post#58 » by LuDux1 » Sun Aug 3, 2025 8:57 pm

Imagine how scared of LeLeague is Euroleague!

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