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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#2021 » by statsman » Mon Aug 4, 2025 1:42 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Both sides lose if jk takes the qo.

Might as well add the Kings to that list. There doesn't appear to be any team other than the Warriors who are willing (desperate? stupid?) enough to trade for Monk and take him off the Kings' hands.
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Post#2022 » by Twinkie defense » Mon Aug 4, 2025 2:51 am

marthafokker wrote:You guys need to listen/watch the podcast from 95.7 the game is morning.

I am trying to say this the whole time. Fans here think all is good to start the season no matter what happened. Dubs already press the Nuke button. If they don't start pulling back... all I see is QO and drama.

Let's see how this drama work out. Even when Myers gave all the money for Poole boy. That didn't fix sh@t. Now Dubs want to do the opposite and you guys think all is good? And the Kerr/JK drama is not an issue? Just like Dray/Poole was not an issue?

Kuminga (and Poole) are just not that important in the scheme of things.
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Post#2023 » by SpreeS » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:14 am

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bay2hk wrote:JK and his team will fold as we approach 10/1. Don’t see Warriors extending the QO past 10/1 if JK doesn’t sign the extension offer or take the QO.

Just need to wait a few more months to play this out. We’ll have horford, GP2 and melton in camp once the QO expires


Kuminga and his agent are just being dicks. Once camp opens, Horford, GP2 and Melton will be celebrated for their patience. Meanwhile, Kuminga will get the silent treatment.


GSW is offering guaranteed only +20mln and Kuminga is dick not accepting this?
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Post#2024 » by marthafokker » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:23 am

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marthafokker wrote:You guys need to listen/watch the podcast from 95.7 the game is morning.

I am trying to say this the whole time. Fans here think all is good to start the season no matter what happened. Dubs already press the Nuke button. If they don't start pulling back... all I see is QO and drama.

Let's see how this drama work out. Even when Myers gave all the money for Poole boy. That didn't fix sh@t. Now Dubs want to do the opposite and you guys think all is good? And the Kerr/JK drama is not an issue? Just like Dray/Poole was not an issue?

Kuminga (and Poole) are just not that important in the scheme of things.


If the lost 1st round picks for dumping was so unimportant, so why are they nick picking on the Sacto 1st round pick protection then?
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#2025 » by Old_Blue » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:58 am

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Old_Blue wrote:
bay2hk wrote:JK and his team will fold as we approach 10/1. Don’t see Warriors extending the QO past 10/1 if JK doesn’t sign the extension offer or take the QO.

Just need to wait a few more months to play this out. We’ll have horford, GP2 and melton in camp once the QO expires


Kuminga and his agent are just being dicks. Once camp opens, Horford, GP2 and Melton will be celebrated for their patience. Meanwhile, Kuminga will get the silent treatment.


GSW is offering guaranteed only +20mln and Kuminga is dick not accepting this?


Kuminga alone is to blame for his failure to not now be signed to a more lucrative deal. For the last year, we were all left to believe that Kuminga was offered 5 years / $150 million prior to last season - Only to reject that offer because he wanted more. During this entire time, Kuminga's agent (Aaron Turner) remained silent regarding the rumor. Only recently has Turner suddenly become quite coy - claiming that no such offer was ever made. Now, when all other possible suitors for Kuminga's services have gone away. Now, when all there is to do is try to save face. None of this clusterf@ck can be laid at the feet of the Dubs. Kuminga sat on the pot and refused to poop, acting as though the market for his flawed services would always be there and acting as though the Dubs had no alternatives to him. Once the Dubs traded for Butler though, everything changed. Now, the Dubs are calling Kuminga's stupid bluff - If you think you're worth so much, then sign the QO and be an unrestricted free agent next year. Act like a dick. Get treated like a dick.
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Post#2026 » by whatisacenter » Mon Aug 4, 2025 5:39 am

Old_Blue wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
Kuminga and his agent are just being dicks. Once camp opens, Horford, GP2 and Melton will be celebrated for their patience. Meanwhile, Kuminga will get the silent treatment.


GSW is offering guaranteed only +20mln and Kuminga is dick not accepting this?


Kuminga alone is to blame for his failure to not now be signed to a more lucrative deal. For the last year, we were all left to believe that Kuminga was offered 5 years / $150 million prior to last season - Only to reject that offer because he wanted more. During this entire time, Kuminga's agent (Aaron Turner) remained silent regarding the rumor. Only recently has Turner suddenly become quite coy - claiming that no such offer was ever made. Now, when all other possible suitors for Kuminga's services have gone away. Now, when all there is to do is try to save face. None of this clusterf@ck can be laid at the feet of the Dubs. Kuminga sat on the pot and refused to poop, acting as though the market for his flawed services would always be there and acting as though the Dubs had no alternatives to him. Once the Dubs traded for Butler though, everything changed. Now, the Dubs are calling Kuminga's stupid bluff - If you think you're worth so much, then sign the QO and be an unrestricted free agent next year. Act like a dick. Get treated like a dick.


Uh, try again, Anthony Slater corrected his story stating that JK's camp suggested the 5/150 with Jalen Johnson as comp and the Warriors never offered a contract.

But I'm sure you will continue to scapegoat JK.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#2027 » by SpreeS » Mon Aug 4, 2025 5:49 am

Old_Blue wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
Kuminga and his agent are just being dicks. Once camp opens, Horford, GP2 and Melton will be celebrated for their patience. Meanwhile, Kuminga will get the silent treatment.


GSW is offering guaranteed only +20mln and Kuminga is dick not accepting this?


Kuminga alone is to blame for his failure to not now be signed to a more lucrative deal. For the last year, we were all left to believe that Kuminga was offered 5 years / $150 million prior to last season - Only to reject that offer because he wanted more. During this entire time, Kuminga's agent (Aaron Turner) remained silent regarding the rumor. Only recently has Turner suddenly become quite coy - claiming that no such offer was ever made. Now, when all other possible suitors for Kuminga's services have gone away. Now, when all there is to do is try to save face. None of this clusterf@ck can be laid at the feet of the Dubs. Kuminga sat on the pot and refused to poop, acting as though the market for his flawed services would always be there and acting as though the Dubs had no alternatives to him. Once the Dubs traded for Butler though, everything changed. Now, the Dubs are calling Kuminga's stupid bluff - If you think you're worth so much, then sign the QO and be an unrestricted free agent next year. Act like a dick. Get treated like a dick.


I don't care its real story or not (150m/5y), because it has nothing to do with this summer's offer.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#2028 » by Old_Blue » Mon Aug 4, 2025 5:49 am

whatisacenter wrote:Anthony Slater corrected his story stating that JK's camp suggested the 5/150 with Jalen Johnson as comp and the Warriors never offered a contract.

But I'm sure you will continue to scapegoat JK.


Are you also going to change Kuminga's diaper and swaddle him? :lol: You're being quite the contrarian in giving two f@cks about the guy.
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Post#2029 » by vvoland » Mon Aug 4, 2025 5:56 am

Old_Blue wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Anthony Slater corrected his story stating that JK's camp suggested the 5/150 with Jalen Johnson as comp and the Warriors never offered a contract.

But I'm sure you will continue to scapegoat JK.


Are you also going to change Kuminga's diaper and swaddle him? :lol: You're being quite the contrarian in giving two f@cks about the guy.


Your take on JKs restricted free agency is both wrong and weird. From the Congo tangent, to the "who's their mama?" question, to the more recent vitriol, you've been way off base on this, in a strangely unconformable way. You may not like the guy but this is just a weird look for you, in addition to being, pretty objectively, wrong.
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Post#2030 » by whatisacenter » Mon Aug 4, 2025 6:00 am

Old_Blue wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Anthony Slater corrected his story stating that JK's camp suggested the 5/150 with Jalen Johnson as comp and the Warriors never offered a contract.

But I'm sure you will continue to scapegoat JK.


Are you also going to change Kuminga's diaper and swaddle him? :lol: You're being quite the contrarian in giving two f@cks about the guy.


Ah yes, I'm a contrarian because I actually take the time to be informed instead of just blindly hating the guy.

Whatever, feel free to continue to make weird stabs at being humorous while being uninformed so it can fit your narrative.
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Post#2031 » by Old_Blue » Mon Aug 4, 2025 6:23 am

whatisacenter wrote:Ah yes, I'm a contrarian because I actually take the time to be informed instead of just blindly hating the guy.

Whatever, feel free to continue to make weird stabs at being humorous while being uninformed so it can fit your narrative.


I actually defended the guy - for years, including last season- long after most people had given up on him. What he's doing now though is a stunt too far - literally trying to delay the team in filling out its roster. And, I'm far from alone in turning on Kuminga to now be critical of him. He's going to have to completely rebuild his reputation wherever he plays next season. It's not going to be easy. He's dug himself a very deep hole. If you want to mentally reside in that hole alongside him, go right ahead.
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Post#2032 » by watch1958 » Mon Aug 4, 2025 7:03 am

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Post#2033 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Aug 4, 2025 3:31 pm

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Post#2034 » by SpreeS » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:04 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Read on Twitter


Lacob speaks.


For what contract?
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#2035 » by Onus » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:05 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Read on Twitter


Lacob speaks.

LMAO WILL NOT TRADE but will TRADE FOR REAL VALUE. Basically keeping us in the same holding pattern. Yea this JK situation is all on Lacob, does not bode well for the future.
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Post#2036 » by EvanZ » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:18 pm

Well what they're saying is they won't trade him because they're not getting "real value". If the Kings offered Keon, I'm sure they would trade him immediately.
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Post#2037 » by vvoland » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:24 pm

Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Read on Twitter


Lacob speaks.

LMAO WILL NOT TRADE but will TRADE FOR REAL VALUE. Basically keeping us in the same holding pattern. Yea this JK situation is all on Lacob, does not bode well for the future.


Better than accepting the monk, dc/saric/, richards/oneal poo poo platters. Looks like this is real the S&T talks shutdown. Like Evan said, if they got someone who could actually beat podz out for minutes, like Keon, JK would have been gone.
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Post#2038 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:27 pm

EvanZ wrote:Well what they're saying is they won't trade him because they're not getting "real value". If the Kings offered Keon, I'm sure they would trade him immediately.


Keon is value to us. To kerr. To mjd.

Im not sure Keon is value to lacob.
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Post#2039 » by vvoland » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:31 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Well what they're saying is they won't trade him because they're not getting "real value". If the Kings offered Keon, I'm sure they would trade him immediately.


Keon is value to us. To kerr. To mjd.

Im not sure Keon is value to lacob.


I know it's impossible to prove a hypothetical but I'm very confident that Keon would have gotten it done. We were willing to ship out JK AND buddy or moody if that pick was unprotected. I think Keon gets it done without any picks involved.
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Re: Warriors exploring S&T for Kuminga 

Post#2040 » by HiRez » Mon Aug 4, 2025 4:33 pm

Old_Blue wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
Old_Blue wrote:
Kuminga and his agent are just being dicks. Once camp opens, Horford, GP2 and Melton will be celebrated for their patience. Meanwhile, Kuminga will get the silent treatment.


GSW is offering guaranteed only +20mln and Kuminga is dick not accepting this?


Kuminga alone is to blame for his failure to not now be signed to a more lucrative deal. For the last year, we were all left to believe that Kuminga was offered 5 years / $150 million prior to last season - Only to reject that offer because he wanted more. During this entire time, Kuminga's agent (Aaron Turner) remained silent regarding the rumor. Only recently has Turner suddenly become quite coy - claiming that no such offer was ever made. Now, when all other possible suitors for Kuminga's services have gone away. Now, when all there is to do is try to save face. None of this clusterf@ck can be laid at the feet of the Dubs. Kuminga sat on the pot and refused to poop, acting as though the market for his flawed services would always be there and acting as though the Dubs had no alternatives to him. Once the Dubs traded for Butler though, everything changed. Now, the Dubs are calling Kuminga's stupid bluff - If you think you're worth so much, then sign the QO and be an unrestricted free agent next year. Act like a dick. Get treated like a dick.

It's Kuminga's fault for overestimating his value and not getting what he wants, but nope, the Warriors are still to blame for it from their side. If they weren't getting anywhere in negotiations and weren't getting a good feeling about it, then they should have moved him before he became an RFA and the restrictions clamped in. Nothing prevented them from doing that and I think every one of us here at least felt like we were watching the same bad re-run for the last 3 or so years between Kuminga and Kerr and does he fit with Curry, etc., so it's not like it came out of nowhere. Maybe they had plans to move him after the Jimmy acquisition but the injury messed up their plans, but that's just bad luck and it was bad luck for Kuminga too.

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