Portland - Chicago

[Blazinaway]

Creative idea, and I applaud the OP for outside the box thinking.

My biggest issue with this concept is Giddey's perimeter shooting. Specifically, that the Blazers don't have the right team of complimentary shooters to maximize his strengths.

Scoot may turn out to be a bust, but he still has the potential to be a better all around player, with better shooting, defense, maybe worse play making.

We'll see

His perimeter shooting seemed very solid last yr as he shot the 3 at 37.8% - seems like a young player improving. His overall FG % was 46.5 again very solid. Don't really see an issue with his shooting unless one really thinks his 3 pt shooting last yr was an aberration. He has improved his 3 pt percentage every yr in the league with last yr seeing the biggest jump.

[BlazersBroncos]

Love this for Portland. Giddey works especially well for PDX because Camara has shown he can guard PG’s. That allows Josh to slide down to guard SF on defense which helps alleviate his foot speed issues guarding PGs.

PDX could run, defensively, this -

G - Toumani Camara / Jrue Holiday
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Jrue Holiday
F - Josh Giddey / Jerami Grant
F - Deni Avdija / Jerami Grant
C - Donovan Clingan / RWIII

Super solid 8 man rotation IMO. Getting the pick back is icing. Don’t think PDX moves off Scoot in reality tho.

Giddey has more of ‘it’ than Scoot IMO. Nothing Scoot does on the floor ever looks easy.

[Texas Chuck]

love it for Portland. Don't love it basketball wise for Chicago, but if they aren't willing to pay Giddey this isn't a bad exit strategy.

[jdzimme3]

I like the premise but see no reason for the bulls to add a pick. Giddey is only 15 months older than scoot and is a much better player. Not sure whatever upside difference exists even bridges the gap in current performance.

[Godaddycurse]

I like the premise but see no reason for the bulls to add a pick. Giddey is only 15 months older than scoot and is a much better player. Not sure whatever upside difference exists even bridges the gap in current performance.

Giddey as a FA is worth less than Scoot imo. 3 less yrs of control

[Blazinaway]

I like the premise but see no reason for the bulls to add a pick. Giddey is only 15 months older than scoot and is a much better player. Not sure whatever upside difference exists even bridges the gap in current performance.

Giddey as a FA is worth less than Scoot imo. 3 less yrs of control

OP was a Giddy Sign and trade:

"Chicago trade: Giddey (S&T 4/110), POR 2026 LP 1st"

[Dez]

I like Henderson as a prospect, and he improved quite a bit last year. Still has a ways to go, but building around
Henderson/TJones
? (keep White maybe)/Ayo
Matas/PWill
Noa/PWill
JSmith
Plus a top 8 pick in 2026-looks good to me

It really doesn't look good at all, Giddey is far superior to Scoot and only 15 months older.

There is zero ability to run an offense on that roster.

[Pipp33]

Creative idea, and I applaud the OP for outside the box thinking.

My biggest issue with this concept is Giddey's perimeter shooting. Specifically, that the Blazers don't have the right team of complimentary shooters to maximize his strengths.

Scoot may turn out to be a bust, but he still has the potential to be a better all around player, with better shooting, defense, maybe worse play making.

We'll see

His perimeter shooting seemed very solid last yr as he shot the 3 at 37.8% - seems like a young player improving. His overall FG % was 46.5 again very solid. Don't really see an issue with his shooting unless one really thinks his 3 pt shooting last yr was an aberration. He has improved his 3 pt percentage every yr in the league with last yr seeing the biggest jump.

Agree completely on Giddey improving his 3.....and to have faith that Scoot will be a better shooter is only a guess...he hasn't shown that in his first 2 seasons.

I think Scoot will be a good player, but Giddey has improved his shooting every season, and that includes his last season in OKC, where he was played out of his natural role.

[Butter]

Creative idea, and I applaud the OP for outside the box thinking.

My biggest issue with this concept is Giddey's perimeter shooting. Specifically, that the Blazers don't have the right team of complimentary shooters to maximize his strengths.

Scoot may turn out to be a bust, but he still has the potential to be a better all around player, with better shooting, defense, maybe worse play making.

We'll see

His perimeter shooting seemed very solid last yr as he shot the 3 at 37.8% - seems like a young player improving. His overall FG % was 46.5 again very solid. Don't really see an issue with his shooting unless one really thinks his 3 pt shooting last yr was an aberration. He has improved his 3 pt percentage every yr in the league with last yr seeing the biggest jump.

Agree completely on Giddey improving his 3.....and to have faith that Scoot will be a better shooter is only a guess...he hasn't shown that in his first 2 seasons.

I think Scoot will be a good player, but Giddey has improved his shooting every season, and that includes his last season in OKC, where he was played out of his natural role.

100% agree, that's why I said Scoot has potential. It seems like a question of ceiling and floor for both of them.

I would like to get the Blazers conditional pick back, but I would prefer to keep Sccot and his rookie salary for now also.

[One_and_Done]

Portland trade: Henderson, Thybulle (or Williams)
Chicago trade: Giddey (S&T 4/110), POR 2026 LP 1st

Why for Portland: Push for playoff with a more seasoned playmaker.
Why for Chicago: Add a high upside prospect to rebuild in a strong draft year and get more capspace next summer
Why for Giddey: get paid

I don't think Giddey has this much value.

[Mavrelous]

Portland trade: Henderson, Thybulle (or Williams)
Chicago trade: Giddey (S&T 4/110), POR 2026 LP 1st

Why for Portland: Push for playoff with a more seasoned playmaker.
Why for Chicago: Add a high upside prospect to rebuild in a strong draft year and get more capspace next summer
Why for Giddey: get paid

I don't think Giddey has this much value.

Criticize Giddy all you want, but he's still 23 and much better than Scoot, he's also only one year older.
I get Scoot isn'y finished product, and he will get better than this, but Giddey is a high floor as it is.
Blazers should do this, not sure about the Bulls.

[One_and_Done]

Portland trade: Henderson, Thybulle (or Williams)
Chicago trade: Giddey (S&T 4/110), POR 2026 LP 1st

Why for Portland: Push for playoff with a more seasoned playmaker.
Why for Chicago: Add a high upside prospect to rebuild in a strong draft year and get more capspace next summer
Why for Giddey: get paid

I don't think Giddey has this much value.

Criticize Giddy all you want, but he's still 23 and much better than Scoot, he's also only one year older.
I get Scoot isn'y finished product, and he will get better than this, but Giddey is a high floor as it is.
Blazers should do this, not sure about the Bulls.

We already know Giddey isn't a player you want on a serious team. Scoot might not be, but at least he has a chance to become such a player. I just wouldn't have much interest in paying Giddey period.

[Mavrelous]

I don't think Giddey has this much value.

Criticize Giddy all you want, but he's still 23 and much better than Scoot, he's also only one year older.
I get Scoot isn'y finished product, and he will get better than this, but Giddey is a high floor as it is.
Blazers should do this, not sure about the Bulls.

We already know Giddey isn't a player you want on a serious team. Scoot might not be, but at least he has a chance to become such a player. I just wouldn't have much interest in paying Giddey period.

Both aren't a finished product, at this point, the median outcome for Giddy is higher than the median outcome for Scoot.

[One_and_Done]

Criticize Giddy all you want, but he's still 23 and much better than Scoot, he's also only one year older.
I get Scoot isn'y finished product, and he will get better than this, but Giddey is a high floor as it is.
Blazers should do this, not sure about the Bulls.

We already know Giddey isn't a player you want on a serious team. Scoot might not be, but at least he has a chance to become such a player. I just wouldn't have much interest in paying Giddey period.

Both aren't a finished product, at this point, the median outcome for Giddy is higher than the median outcome for Scoot.

You could say the same about Demar. I just don't think a winning team should be trying to acquire flawed players like Giddey or Demar.

[Dez]

We already know Giddey isn't a player you want on a serious team. Scoot might not be, but at least he has a chance to become such a player. I just wouldn't have much interest in paying Giddey period.

Both aren't a finished product, at this point, the median outcome for Giddy is higher than the median outcome for Scoot.

You could say the same about Demar. I just don't think a winning team should be trying to acquire flawed players like Giddey or Demar.

He's 22 and improving every year, he's absolutely a winning player.

[One_and_Done]

Both aren't a finished product, at this point, the median outcome for Giddy is higher than the median outcome for Scoot.

You could say the same about Demar. I just don't think a winning team should be trying to acquire flawed players like Giddey or Demar.

He's 22 and improving every year, he's absolutely a winning player.

He doesn't play D and can't shoot 3s. He also requires the ball to be effective. Unless his game changes, he's very Demar-ish.

[Dez]

You could say the same about Demar. I just don't think a winning team should be trying to acquire flawed players like Giddey or Demar.

He's 22 and improving every year, he's absolutely a winning player.

He doesn't play D and can't shoot 3s. He also requires the ball to be effective. Unless his game changes, he's very Demar-ish.

He's literally improved his 3 ball every year and his defense improved over the course of the year.

His whole game is based around getting his teammates involved, how is that DeMar-ish?

You've made random observations that don't match reality.

[BlazersBroncos]

Josh is going into his age 23 season and just posted -

1.5 of 4.0 3PT on .378%

DDR's best 3PT season was 1.1 of 3.6 for .316% at age 28.

Josh has also posted + DBPM in 3/4 seasons. DDR has + DBPM in 2 of 16 seasons.

Josh, finally, is a PG. DDR is not. Carrer AST% of 30 vs 19.

All signs point to Giddey being nowhere near a finished project.

[Pattycakes]

Criticize Giddy all you want, but he's still 23 and much better than Scoot, he's also only one year older.
I get Scoot isn'y finished product, and he will get better than this, but Giddey is a high floor as it is.
Blazers should do this, not sure about the Bulls.

We already know Giddey isn't a player you want on a serious team. Scoot might not be, but at least he has a chance to become such a player. I just wouldn't have much interest in paying Giddey period.

Both aren't a finished product, at this point, the median outcome for Giddy is higher than the median outcome for Scoot.

You forgot to carry the mean root of the triple surplex polyhedron quadraplex

[nate33]

Giddey seems so darned aenemic on defense. I have a lot more faith in Scoot becoming a leading PG than Giddey improving his D. Portland has clearly focused its roster on a defensive identity. No way they trade for Giddey to play him over Holiday. This is DOA.

wut?

Giddey was tied for 2nd on the Bulls in defensive rating with a mark 2.6 points better than his team. And he was 2nd on the Bulls in DBPM and defensive winshares. Giddey's DBPM was +1.1; Scoot's was -0.8. That's not an 'anemic' defensive resume, at least not for last season

Genuine question: is this one of those times where stats are misleading or did he become a legit defender? That determines how on board I am.

Giddey doesn't blow you away as an on-ball defender, but he is big and smart and switchable. It's a real defensive advantage to have a big PG like that because there is no short guy to attack and force into switches. You may still see Giddey getting beat from time to time, but it will go unnoticed that the team rarely blows pick-and-roll coverage because switching is easier than hedging and fighting over the top. So Giddey may occasionally look bad in highlights, but the stats will show an effective team defense when he is on the floor.

Portland could put together some real good defensive lineups with Giddey, Avdija, Camara and Sharpe switching everything on the perimeter.