Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26

[celtxman]

Simons tenure here is feeling a lot like Dennis Schroeder's time here. Different circumstances but really the same. The Celtics weren't able to really pay Schroeder due to restrictions so why have him play just one season and waste time? It seems that the Celtics have no desire to keep Simons. If he plays poorly, well who wants him? If he plays well they won't want to pay him.

[phincsfan]

Basically what I’ve been saying for the last month. Celtics are not signing anyone and they are trying to lose. They are not purposely losing but they are going to do nothing transaction wise that will help them win. No Bassey, no Vucevic, no anyone. Simons and Niang will be eventually sold off. The so called subtly tank.

Agreed.

Also, bottom line the C's got off of Jrue's remaining 104mil contract. I can't get mad at Stevens for doing that even if that meant taking on an expiring 27mil contract.

All rumors and fog about Simons right now, but if he plays his averages this season, which would be 4 straight seasons of 20+ppg and his league interest still is weak, he could end up being a steal of a contract. 4yrs/80mil looks pretty good for a 20ppg player. Stevens kind of has him by the sack right now because Simons has to perform even though league interest is pretty weak right now.

Does he go the route of a Shroder or Trent Jr and bet on himself? That didn't turn out well for those two. If he's given a 4yr/80mil contract to sign he'd be stupid to say no. That would put him at over 200mil in career earnings for a 24th pick.

The C's could have a 35-40ppg backcourt locked up for the next bunch of seasons and make the frontcourt a priority for the next draft or free agency.

You're missing the point, Stevens is afraid that Simons will perform and add unnecessary wins to the teams total. That's why he is looking to move him. Celtics are not resigning him and don't want Simons to add another 4-6 wins to the Celtics and push them into a low 20's draft pick. Some day people will wake up to what's really going on here with the Celtics.

I guarantee you Simons will be gone by opening night.

I'm all aboard for the tanking train, but I think that can be handled through resting JB and White. Let Simons play every game. He won't make the frontcourt any better. This will be Neems first test at starting. He's gonna play alot this summer. That knee surgery may also put him on a minute restriction regiment.

I'm taking Vegas's under 43.5 wins for the C's. I say closer to 34 to 38 which would be a lottery pick.

Next June will be 40 years since Len passed. Gods owe the C's a little lottery gift.

[Celts17Pride]

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[jmr07019]

Basically what I’ve been saying for the last month. Celtics are not signing anyone and they are trying to lose. They are not purposely losing but they are going to do nothing transaction wise that will help them win. No Bassey, no Vucevic, no anyone. Simons and Niang will be eventually sold off. The so called subtly tank.

Agreed.

Also, bottom line the C's got off of Jrue's remaining 104mil contract. I can't get mad at Stevens for doing that even if that meant taking on an expiring 27mil contract.

All rumors and fog about Simons right now, but if he plays his averages this season, which would be 4 straight seasons of 20+ppg and his league interest still is weak, he could end up being a steal of a contract. 4yrs/80mil looks pretty good for a 20ppg player. Stevens kind of has him by the sack right now because Simons has to perform even though league interest is pretty weak right now.

Does he go the route of a Shroder or Trent Jr and bet on himself? That didn't turn out well for those two. If he's given a 4yr/80mil contract to sign he'd be stupid to say no. That would put him at over 200mil in career earnings for a 24th pick.

The C's could have a 35-40ppg backcourt locked up for the next bunch of seasons and make the frontcourt a priority for the next draft or free agency.

You're missing the point, Stevens is afraid that Simons will perform and add unnecessary wins to the teams total. That's why he is looking to move him. Celtics are not resigning him and don't want Simons to add another 4-6 wins to the Celtics and push them into a low 20's draft pick. Some day people will wake up to what's really going on here with the Celtics.

I guarantee you Simons will be gone by opening night.

Why hasn’t Simons been traded yet? What’s the hold up?

[Celts17Pride]

Agreed.

Also, bottom line the C's got off of Jrue's remaining 104mil contract. I can't get mad at Stevens for doing that even if that meant taking on an expiring 27mil contract.

All rumors and fog about Simons right now, but if he plays his averages this season, which would be 4 straight seasons of 20+ppg and his league interest still is weak, he could end up being a steal of a contract. 4yrs/80mil looks pretty good for a 20ppg player. Stevens kind of has him by the sack right now because Simons has to perform even though league interest is pretty weak right now.

Does he go the route of a Shroder or Trent Jr and bet on himself? That didn't turn out well for those two. If he's given a 4yr/80mil contract to sign he'd be stupid to say no. That would put him at over 200mil in career earnings for a 24th pick.

The C's could have a 35-40ppg backcourt locked up for the next bunch of seasons and make the frontcourt a priority for the next draft or free agency.

You're missing the point, Stevens is afraid that Simons will perform and add unnecessary wins to the teams total. That's why he is looking to move him. Celtics are not resigning him and don't want Simons to add another 4-6 wins to the Celtics and push them into a low 20's draft pick. Some day people will wake up to what's really going on here with the Celtics.

I guarantee you Simons will be gone by opening night.

Why hasn’t Simons been traded yet? What’s the hold up?

I personally think that teams have trade restrictions including the Celtics that expire in mid September. I'm expecting the Celtics next flurry of moves in the first couple weeks of September.

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[Celts17Pride]

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Giannis has 2 years and a 3rd year player option left on his contract. Giannis is going nowhere this year. If the Bucks consider trading Giannis it will be next off-season. Shams is just embarassing. When was the last time Shams got something right with his speculation? The NBA misses Woj.

Shames was saying for about a month that Jaylen Brown and Derrick White were on the move. Good one!

[Fierce1]

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Giannis has 2 years and a 3rd year player option left on his contract. Giannis is going nowhere this year. If the Bucks consider trading Giannis it will be next off-season. Shams is just embarassing. When was the last time Shams got something right with his speculation? The NBA misses Woj.

Shames was saying for about a month that Jaylen Brown and Derrick White were on the move. Good one!

Did Shams guarantee JB and DWhite were on the move?

[Celts17Pride]

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Giannis has 2 years and a 3rd year player option left on his contract. Giannis is going nowhere this year. If the Bucks consider trading Giannis it will be next off-season. Shams is just embarassing. When was the last time Shams got something right with his speculation? The NBA misses Woj.

Shames was saying for about a month that Jaylen Brown and Derrick White were on the move. Good one!

Did Shams guarantee JB and DWhite were on the move?

Shams is on a regular show, he makes things up so he has something to say on the show. Something Woj never did in my opinion.

[GreenBlooded]

Basically what I’ve been saying for the last month. Celtics are not signing anyone and they are trying to lose. They are not purposely losing but they are going to do nothing transaction wise that will help them win. No Bassey, no Vucevic, no anyone. Simons and Niang will be eventually sold off. The so called subtly tank.

Agreed.

Also, bottom line the C's got off of Jrue's remaining 104mil contract. I can't get mad at Stevens for doing that even if that meant taking on an expiring 27mil contract.

All rumors and fog about Simons right now, but if he plays his averages this season, which would be 4 straight seasons of 20+ppg and his league interest still is weak, he could end up being a steal of a contract. 4yrs/80mil looks pretty good for a 20ppg player. Stevens kind of has him by the sack right now because Simons has to perform even though league interest is pretty weak right now.

Does he go the route of a Shroder or Trent Jr and bet on himself? That didn't turn out well for those two. If he's given a 4yr/80mil contract to sign he'd be stupid to say no. That would put him at over 200mil in career earnings for a 24th pick.

The C's could have a 35-40ppg backcourt locked up for the next bunch of seasons and make the frontcourt a priority for the next draft or free agency.

You're missing the point, Stevens is afraid that Simons will perform and add unnecessary wins to the teams total. That's why he is looking to move him. Celtics are not resigning him and don't want Simons to add another 4-6 wins to the Celtics and push them into a low 20's draft pick. Some day people will wake up to what's really going on here with the Celtics.

I guarantee you Simons will be gone by opening night.

So the premise here is that Brad's primary reasoning to dump Simons is to get a frp is the high teens instead of low twenties?!?!?

[Fierce1]

Giannis has 2 years and a 3rd year player option left on his contract. Giannis is going nowhere this year. If the Bucks consider trading Giannis it will be next off-season. Shams is just embarassing. When was the last time Shams got something right with his speculation? The NBA misses Woj.

Shames was saying for about a month that Jaylen Brown and Derrick White were on the move. Good one!

Did Shams guarantee JB and DWhite were on the move?

Shams is on a regular show, he makes things up so he has something to say on the show. Something Woj never did in my opinion.

Yeah, I also think that.

But hey, that's how they make money.

I just listen, but don't take what they say too seriously.

[itrsteve]

Only way to raise Simons' trade value is to let him play.

Just like Poole got a big bag after that great 2022 season.

Right now trading Simons will result in the Cs getting low ball offers.

Just don't rush in trading Simons.

If he plays well all the way to the NBA Cup, Cs might get something significant from a Simons trade.

^ this. We have until the trade deadline to figure out what makes the most sense for tax calculations.

We've had some decent success up-leveling value from fringe star players or even unknown talent so I don't see the harm to seeing if he's able to up-level his value and assess then.

Our roster still has talent who aren't going to accept being a crap team just so we can have the ~10th pick instead of ~20th. Screw all of that. Not like we're that great at drafting anyway.

[fallguy]

This is the one time of year NBA front office guys can actually take some downtime.

Wouldn't be surprised if there was a 'let's talk about this again in a few weeks' vibe with any trade conversations.

[fallguy]

Agreed.

Also, bottom line the C's got off of Jrue's remaining 104mil contract. I can't get mad at Stevens for doing that even if that meant taking on an expiring 27mil contract.

All rumors and fog about Simons right now, but if he plays his averages this season, which would be 4 straight seasons of 20+ppg and his league interest still is weak, he could end up being a steal of a contract. 4yrs/80mil looks pretty good for a 20ppg player. Stevens kind of has him by the sack right now because Simons has to perform even though league interest is pretty weak right now.

Does he go the route of a Shroder or Trent Jr and bet on himself? That didn't turn out well for those two. If he's given a 4yr/80mil contract to sign he'd be stupid to say no. That would put him at over 200mil in career earnings for a 24th pick.

The C's could have a 35-40ppg backcourt locked up for the next bunch of seasons and make the frontcourt a priority for the next draft or free agency.

You're missing the point, Stevens is afraid that Simons will perform and add unnecessary wins to the teams total. That's why he is looking to move him. Celtics are not resigning him and don't want Simons to add another 4-6 wins to the Celtics and push them into a low 20's draft pick. Some day people will wake up to what's really going on here with the Celtics.

I guarantee you Simons will be gone by opening night.

So the premise here is that Brad's primary reasoning to dump Simons is to get a frp is the high teens instead of low twenties?!?!?

Primary motivation is that they never really wanted him. He was just a vehicle to get off of Jrue.

[fallguy]

You could replace Shams with anyone who 1) can't write and 2) is willing to serve the interests of agents and teams and get the same result.

[Celts17Pride]

Agreed.

Also, bottom line the C's got off of Jrue's remaining 104mil contract. I can't get mad at Stevens for doing that even if that meant taking on an expiring 27mil contract.

All rumors and fog about Simons right now, but if he plays his averages this season, which would be 4 straight seasons of 20+ppg and his league interest still is weak, he could end up being a steal of a contract. 4yrs/80mil looks pretty good for a 20ppg player. Stevens kind of has him by the sack right now because Simons has to perform even though league interest is pretty weak right now.

Does he go the route of a Shroder or Trent Jr and bet on himself? That didn't turn out well for those two. If he's given a 4yr/80mil contract to sign he'd be stupid to say no. That would put him at over 200mil in career earnings for a 24th pick.

The C's could have a 35-40ppg backcourt locked up for the next bunch of seasons and make the frontcourt a priority for the next draft or free agency.

You're missing the point, Stevens is afraid that Simons will perform and add unnecessary wins to the teams total. That's why he is looking to move him. Celtics are not resigning him and don't want Simons to add another 4-6 wins to the Celtics and push them into a low 20's draft pick. Some day people will wake up to what's really going on here with the Celtics.

I guarantee you Simons will be gone by opening night.

So the premise here is that Brad's primary reasoning to dump Simons is to get a frp is the high teens instead of low twenties?!?!?

Celtics are going to have a higher draft pick than high teens. More like 10-14 unless they get lucky in the draft.

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Only way to raise Simons' trade value is to let him play.

Just like Poole got a big bag after that great 2022 season.

Right now trading Simons will result in the Cs getting low ball offers.

Just don't rush in trading Simons.

If he plays well all the way to the NBA Cup, Cs might get something significant from a Simons trade.

^ this. We have until the trade deadline to figure out what makes the most sense for tax calculations.

We've had some decent success up-leveling value from fringe star players or even unknown talent so I don't see the harm to seeing if he's able to up-level his value and assess then.

Our roster still has talent who aren't going to accept being a crap team just so we can have the ~10th pick instead of ~20th. Screw all of that. Not like we're that great at drafting anyway.

I mean, the last time we had a top 10 pick, we drafted Jayson Tatum.

The time before that where we had a top 10 pick, we drafted Jaylen Brown.

Before that, Marcus Smart..who was good value at pick 6, who we later flipped for KP, who helped us win banner 18.

Tatum, brown, smart. The 3 longest tenured Celtics since Pierce..

[GreenBlooded]

You're missing the point, Stevens is afraid that Simons will perform and add unnecessary wins to the teams total. That's why he is looking to move him. Celtics are not resigning him and don't want Simons to add another 4-6 wins to the Celtics and push them into a low 20's draft pick. Some day people will wake up to what's really going on here with the Celtics.

I guarantee you Simons will be gone by opening night.

So the premise here is that Brad's primary reasoning to dump Simons is to get a frp is the high teens instead of low twenties?!?!?

Celtics are going to have a higher draft pick than high teens. More like 10-14 unless they get lucky in the draft.

So you think Simons is good enough to increase this team's win total from missing the playoffs to being a 4-5 seed? That's pretty high praise for Simons.

[Celts17Pride]

So the premise here is that Brad's primary reasoning to dump Simons is to get a frp is the high teens instead of low twenties?!?!?

Celtics are going to have a higher draft pick than high teens. More like 10-14 unless they get lucky in the draft.

So you think Simons is good enough to increase this team's win total from missing the playoffs to being a 4-5 seed? That's pretty high praise for Simons.

I understand it hasn't sunk in for you yet but it will. Celtics will be the 9th - 11th seed

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Celtics are going to have a higher draft pick than high teens. More like 10-14 unless they get lucky in the draft.

So you think Simons is good enough to increase this team's win total from missing the playoffs to being a 4-5 seed? That's pretty high praise for Simons.

I understand it hasn't sunk in for you yet but it will. Celtics will be the 9th - 11th seed

Totally agree.
I think there are about six teams in the East, if healthy, that are all better than the Celtics, and I'm assuming JB is going to be able to carry the load all season, which I don't think he'll hold up.

Also, you can't be a serious contender with this frontcourt minus Tatum, just no shot in hell.