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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#221 » by RHODEY » Tue Aug 5, 2025 4:26 pm

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I agree a little of everything but when spelling Brunson and playing with our top players or playing in the backcourt with Brunson he will need to be a ball handler and shot creator for others more than chucking up shots himself. Career wise he is a low efficiency scorer and ideally you don't want him taking a bunch of shots with higher efficiency scorers on the floor. You wanting him shooting more when the main guys are not playing well (offense is stagnant), some guys are out that particular game, or Brown is playing a lot of the lesser scorers on the floor with him.

I said no such thing. I said they brought him in for shot creation, because nobody else on the team besides Brunson (and certainly no one on the bench)was particularly good at getting their own.

The whole efficiency thing ...that is another discussion that pulls us away from this discussion..which was... we need more ball handing.


Bridges absolutely can create his own shot. Related to that, KAT for a big is pretty good at driving to the hole. KAT vs other bigs can create a bit too. To your point it still is a need though.


Ok but...from the bench who are our shot creators? In the starting lineup Bridges is ok , his handle is kinda high , OG is" OK" ,but not really great the dept. and you cant have guys like KAt handle too much, you need more play making. Why do you keep trying to steer this discussion away from that?
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#222 » by KnixinSix » Tue Aug 5, 2025 4:28 pm

8516knicks wrote:KnixinSix I'm disappointed you haven't gotten us Giannis yet; we may have to fire u as GM. 8-) :lol: :lol: :wink:


Patience lol KAT didn't happen until October.

I put it only at like 25% but rumors are persistent

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The New York Knicks have been closely monitoring Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation with the Bucks, per @JLEdwardsIII


“It is my understanding that Leon Rose and company have been monitoring Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation in Milwaukee very closely, even before the offseason started. Many around the league believe the Knicks are interested in star hunting, and while that opportunity hasn’t popped up yet, I certainly believe it’s in the cards if the right situation presents itself."


What would this look like if Giannis specifically asked to come here?

Current line-up and approximate minute allocation:

C Mitch(25) , KAT(15), Huk(8)
PF KAT(17), Yabu (20), OG (11)
SF OG(21), Hart (20), Yabu (5)
SG Bridges (32) , Hart (5), McBride (11)
PG Brunson (33), Clarkson (15)

McBride and Clarkson really don't have a ton of minutes available to them unless you drastically reduce Harts minutes.

*Players in orange are players who should probably get a few more minutes in a better balanced line-up

**Players in red are players who definitely should get more minutes in a better balanced line-up


Trade scenario (possible substitution of Mitchell Robinson/McBride instead of Josh Hart):

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Possible line-up after trade and approximate minute allocation:

C KAT(15), Mitch(23) , Giannis(7), Huk (3)
PF Giannis (21), KAT(17), Yabu (11)
SF Bridges(25), Yabu (18), Giannis (5)
SG McBride (20), Bridges (7), Clarkson(12), Shamet(9)
PG Brunson (33), Clarkson (10), McBride (5)

*Much better balanced lineups in terms of minutes allocation
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#223 » by KnixinSix » Tue Aug 5, 2025 4:30 pm

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RHODEY wrote:I said no such thing. I said they brought him in for shot creation, because nobody else on the team besides Brunson (and certainly no one on the bench)was particularly good at getting their own.

The whole efficiency thing ...that is another discussion that pulls us away from this discussion..which was... we need more ball handing.


Bridges absolutely can create his own shot. Related to that, KAT for a big is pretty good at driving to the hole. KAT vs other bigs can create a bit too. To your point it still is a need though.


Ok but...from the bench who are our shot creators? In the starting lineup Bridges is ok , his handle is kinda high , OG is" OK" ,but not really great the dept. and you cant have guys like KAt handle too much, you need more play making. Why do you keep trying to steer this discussion away from that?



I am not in disagreement. That will also be a potential benefit of Clarkson.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#225 » by DaGawd » Tue Aug 5, 2025 4:37 pm

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#226 » by Spree2Houston » Tue Aug 5, 2025 4:51 pm

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#227 » by 8516knicks » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:15 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
8516knicks wrote:KnixinSix I'm disappointed you haven't gotten us Giannis yet; we may have to fire u as GM. 8-) :lol: :lol: :wink:


Patience lol KAT didn't happen until October.

I put it only at like 25% but rumors are persistent

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The New York Knicks have been closely monitoring Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation with the Bucks, per @JLEdwardsIII


“It is my understanding that Leon Rose and company have been monitoring Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation in Milwaukee very closely, even before the offseason started. Many around the league believe the Knicks are interested in star hunting, and while that opportunity hasn’t popped up yet, I certainly believe it’s in the cards if the right situation presents itself."


What would this look like if Giannis specifically asked to come here?

Current line-up and approximate minute allocation:

C Mitch(25) , KAT(15), Huk(8)
PF KAT(17), Yabu (20), OG (11)
SF OG(21), Hart (20), Yabu (5)
SG Bridges (32) , Hart (5), McBride (11)
PG Brunson (33), Clarkson (15)

McBride and Clarkson really don't have a ton of minutes available to them unless you drastically reduce Harts minutes.

*Players in orange are players who should probably get a few more minutes in a better balanced line-up

**Players in red are players who definitely should get more minutes in a better balanced line-up


Trade scenario (possible substitution of Mitchell Robinson/McBride instead of Josh Hart):

Image


Possible line-up after trade and approximate minute allocation:

C KAT(15), Mitch(23) , Giannis(7), Huk (3)
PF Giannis (21), KAT(17), Yabu (11)
SF Bridges(25), Yabu (18), Giannis (5)
SG McBride (20), Bridges (7), Clarkson(12), Shamet(9)
PG Brunson (33), Clarkson (10), McBride (5)

*Much better balanced lineups in terms of minutes allocation


We just don't have enough to offer for him. Isn't that Wash pick likely not to convey? And who are the Bucks left with after all this? They might as well join the G league. :lol: :nod:
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#228 » by KnixinSix » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:34 pm

8516knicks wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
8516knicks wrote:KnixinSix I'm disappointed you haven't gotten us Giannis yet; we may have to fire u as GM. 8-) :lol: :lol: :wink:


Patience lol KAT didn't happen until October.

I put it only at like 25% but rumors are persistent

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The New York Knicks have been closely monitoring Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation with the Bucks, per @JLEdwardsIII


“It is my understanding that Leon Rose and company have been monitoring Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation in Milwaukee very closely, even before the offseason started. Many around the league believe the Knicks are interested in star hunting, and while that opportunity hasn’t popped up yet, I certainly believe it’s in the cards if the right situation presents itself."


What would this look like if Giannis specifically asked to come here?

Current line-up and approximate minute allocation:

C Mitch(25) , KAT(15), Huk(8)
PF KAT(17), Yabu (20), OG (11)
SF OG(21), Hart (20), Yabu (5)
SG Bridges (32) , Hart (5), McBride (11)
PG Brunson (33), Clarkson (15)

McBride and Clarkson really don't have a ton of minutes available to them unless you drastically reduce Harts minutes.

*Players in orange are players who should probably get a few more minutes in a better balanced line-up

**Players in red are players who definitely should get more minutes in a better balanced line-up


Trade scenario (possible substitution of Mitchell Robinson/McBride instead of Josh Hart):

Image


Possible line-up after trade and approximate minute allocation:

C KAT(15), Mitch(23) , Giannis(7), Huk (3)
PF Giannis (21), KAT(17), Yabu (11)
SF Bridges(25), Yabu (18), Giannis (5)
SG McBride (20), Bridges (7), Clarkson(12), Shamet(9)
PG Brunson (33), Clarkson (10), McBride (5)

*Much better balanced lineups in terms of minutes allocation


We just don't have enough to offer for him. Isn't that Wash pick likely not to convey? And who are the Bucks left with after all this? They might as well join the G league. :lol: :nod:


Myles Turner
OG Anonoby/Portis
Kyle Kuzma/Hart
Hart/Trent Jr
Cole Anthony / Porter

Not exactly terrible like you say.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#229 » by Capn'O » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:37 pm

FFS every team in the league is "monitoring" Giannis right now.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#230 » by DaGawd » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:43 pm

[quote="KnixinSix"][quote="8516knicks"][quote="KnixinSix"]

Patience lol KAT didn't happen until October.

I put it only at like 25% but rumors are persistent

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The New York Knicks have been closely monitoring Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation with the Bucks, per @JLEdwardsIII


“It is my understanding that Leon Rose and company have been monitoring Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation in Milwaukee very closely, even before the offseason started. Many around the league believe the Knicks are interested in star hunting, and while that opportunity hasn’t popped up yet, I certainly believe it’s in the cards if the right situation presents itself."


What would this look like if Giannis specifically asked to come here?

[b][u]Current line-up and approximate minute allocation:[/u][/b]

C [color=#FF8000]Mitch(25)[/color] , KAT(15), Huk(8)
PF KAT(17), [color=#FF8000]Yabu (20)[/color], OG (11)
SF OG(21), [color=#FF8000]Hart (20)[/color], [color=#FF8000]Yabu (5)[/color]
SG Bridges (32) , [color=#FF8000]Hart (5)[/color], [color=#FF4040]McBride (11)[/color]
PG Brunson (33), [color=#FF4040]Clarkson (15)[/color]

McBride and Clarkson really don't have a ton of minutes available to them unless you drastically reduce Harts minutes.

*Players in orange are players who should probably get a few more minutes in a better balanced line-up

**Players in red are players who definitely should get more minutes in a better balanced line-up


[b][u]Trade scenario (possible substitution of Mitchell Robinson/McBride instead of Josh Hart):
[/u][/b]
[img]https://i.postimg.cc/HnRxWcW0/fanspo-nba-trade-machine-snap-h-8-1-2025-8-57-10-AM.jpg[/img]


[b][u]Possible line-up after trade and approximate minute allocation:[/u][/b]

C KAT(15), [color=#FF8000]Mitch(23)[/color] , Giannis(7), Huk (3)
PF Giannis (21), KAT(17), Yabu (11)
SF Bridges(25), Yabu (18), Giannis (5)
SG McBride (20), Bridges (7), Clarkson(12), Shamet(9)
PG Brunson (33), Clarkson (10), McBride (5)

*Much better balanced lineups in terms of minutes allocation[/quote]

We just don't have enough to offer for him. Isn't that Wash pick likely not to convey? And who are the Bucks left with after all this? They might as well join the G league. :lol: :nod:[/quote]

Myles Turner
OG Anonoby/Portis
Kyle Kuzma/Hart
Hart/Trent Jr
Cole Anthony / Porter

Not exactly terrible like you say.[/quote]

that team is horrible lol, with no real draft capital to make up for it

if leon can pull a rabbit out of a hat and manage a giannis trade without trading kat or im all for it.. just doesn’t seem very realistic at all even if giannis demanded to come here only
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#231 » by RHODEY » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:43 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
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Bridges absolutely can create his own shot. Related to that, KAT for a big is pretty good at driving to the hole. KAT vs other bigs can create a bit too. To your point it still is a need though.


Ok but...from the bench who are our shot creators? In the starting lineup Bridges is ok , his handle is kinda high , OG is" OK" ,but not really great the dept. and you cant have guys like KAt handle too much, you need more play making. Why do you keep trying to steer this discussion away from that?



I am not in disagreement. That will also be a potential benefit of Clarkson.


It would benefit the whole team.
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Post#232 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:44 pm

DaGawd wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
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it’s the same headline on repeat


Same old Knicks for Clicks. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#233 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:45 pm

Capn'O wrote:FFS every team in the league is "monitoring" Giannis right now.


Yes of course, but they don't garner the volume of attention that Knicks for Clicks does :lol:
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#234 » by Jalen Bluntson » Tue Aug 5, 2025 7:18 pm

DaGawd wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
8516knicks wrote:
We just don't have enough to offer for him. Isn't that Wash pick likely not to convey? And who are the Bucks left with after all this? They might as well join the G league. :lol: :nod:


Myles Turner
OG Anonoby/Portis
Kyle Kuzma/Hart
Hart/Trent Jr
Cole Anthony / Porter

Not exactly terrible like you say.


that team is horrible lol, with no real draft capital to make up for it

if leon can pull a rabbit out of a hat and manage a giannis trade without trading kat or im all for it.. just doesn’t seem very realistic at all even if giannis demanded to come here only


Idgad if Giannis demanded NYK...MIL would laugh at him and get the best offer possible. Nothing the Knicks can offer makes any sense for MIL.

There is .01% chance we get Giannis.
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Post#235 » by TheGreenArrow » Tue Aug 5, 2025 8:25 pm

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Post#236 » by knicks1999 » Tue Aug 5, 2025 8:38 pm

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Looks like Ben to Boston is close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just read the Celtics used the cap space for Chris Boucher
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Looks like Ben to Boston is close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just read the Celtics used the cap space for Chris Boucher



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Looks like Ben to Boston is close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just read the Celtics used the cap space for Chris Boucher



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Also you have the ability to put him in at the end of games to go small and switch everything if you wanted to as well. It would certainly give us options if he was willing to buy into the role as a defensive wing.
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