Trade Talk (Part 17): Early Offseason Planning

[cmoss84]

Any trade where we get Giannis and don't give up Ant has to be considered. Is this the Rozier who will be banned for life and possibly go to prison?

Haven't you watch gangster movies? Ray Liotta? Good fellas??
You help a certain someone sweep some dirt under a rug, you might get a little something extra in your stocking.

Unfortunately, I think the only gangster movie parallel here would be Milwaukee putting a hit on Tim Connelly for trying to steal Giannis.

I thought it was a good package for them, no? How much more does he fetch (my offer w/ starting caliber players instead of 20 FRP).

[cmoss84]

Mil would be top 3 in East.

Porter Jr/RD
DDV/Green/Wiggins
Kuzma/Wiggins
Turner/Jovic
Rudy

[BlacJacMac]

Mil would be top 3 in East.

Porter Jr/RD
DDV/Green/Wiggins
Kuzma/Wiggins
Turner/Jovic
Rudy

Did most of the East Coast fall into the ocean in this scenario?

[cmoss84]

Mil would be top 3 in East.

Porter Jr/RD
DDV/Green/Wiggins
Kuzma/Wiggins
Turner/Jovic
Rudy

Did most of the East Coast fall into the ocean in this scenario?

Who's ahead of them?

[KGdaBom]

I like Immanuel Quickley, but would need a bit more value to feel comfortable with trading Julius Randle for him.

Maybe Quickley is better than I thought. If they throw in an unprotected first I'd listen. I'm not saying yes. It's probably still a no.

[BlacJacMac]

Mil would be top 3 in East.

Porter Jr/RD
DDV/Green/Wiggins
Kuzma/Wiggins
Turner/Jovic
Rudy

Did most of the East Coast fall into the ocean in this scenario?

Who's ahead of them?

CLE, BOS, NYK, DET, ORL, ATL, MIA for sure.

That's a horrible team.

Porter and DDV are borderline starters. Kuzma puts up occasional numbers, but his impact is negative. Turner and Rudy can defend, but neither can be counted on to score. And both guys are going to always be in foul trouble trying to cover for the other 3.

That's more likely to be a Play-In team than a home court one.

[Norseman79]

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For sake of trade ideas

[cmoss84]

Did most of the East Coast fall into the ocean in this scenario?

Who's ahead of them?

CLE, BOS, NYK, DET, ORL, ATL, MIA for sure.

That's a horrible team.

Porter and DDV are borderline starters. Kuzma puts up occasional numbers, but his impact is negative. Turner and Rudy can defend, but neither can be counted on to score. And both guys are going to always be in foul trouble trying to cover for the other 3.

That's more likely to be a Play-In team than a home court one.

I guess we'll never know!

[Ethomasp31]

I don't know how we could make it legal, but I'd be interested if we could figure out a way to turn DiVincenzo into Quentin Grimes.

Why would you want to do that?

[Klomp]

I don't know how we could make it legal, but I'd be interested if we could figure out a way to turn DiVincenzo into Quentin Grimes.

Why would you want to do that?

I think they are similarly talented players, and Grimes is only 25.

[BlacJacMac]

I don't know how we could make it legal, but I'd be interested if we could figure out a way to turn DiVincenzo into Quentin Grimes.

Why would you want to do that?

I think they are similarly talented players, and Grimes is only 25.

He's also looking for 25M/year.

[Klomp]

Why would you want to do that?

I think they are similarly talented players, and Grimes is only 25.

He's also looking for 25M/year.

"Looking for" being the key words. How much money was Tyus Jones looking for the past two free agency periods?

And I would also point out that the $20M range is roughly what both Grimes and DiVincenzo should be worth. They are fringe starters or high-end reserves on very good teams, just like guys like Naz Reid are. DiVincenzo has only two more seasons on his contract that's roughly 40-50% of his value....we need to prepare to either pay him or move him anyways.

[Wolveswin]

McDaniels for Nembhard

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?
*Pacers are still deep at guard but trade suggested isn’t complete…would need a guard coming back to Pacers.

Obviously Wolves need a backfill SF…who?

3rd team added to take Pacers plus value and additional Wolves value as needed (Dilly, DDV, or Randle when he can be traded).

Is it easier for Wolves to complete their roster with backcourt solved (Nembhard/Edwards) but find a fitting SF?

[winforlose]

McDaniels for Nembhard

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?
*Pacers are still deep at guard but trade suggested isn’t complete…would need a guard coming back to Pacers.

Obviously Wolves need a backfill SF…who?

3rd team added to take Pacers plus value and additional Wolves value as needed (Dilly, DDV, or Randle when he can be traded).

Is it easier for Wolves to complete their roster with backcourt solved (Nembhard/Edwards) but find a fitting SF?

Massive overpay.

[BlacJacMac]

McDaniels for Nembhard

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?
*Pacers are still deep at guard but trade suggested isn’t complete…would need a guard coming back to Pacers.

Obviously Wolves need a backfill SF…who?

3rd team added to take Pacers plus value and additional Wolves value as needed (Dilly, DDV, or Randle when he can be traded).

Is it easier for Wolves to complete their roster with backcourt solved (Nembhard/Edwards) but find a fitting SF?

To even consider trading McDaniels, the primary return has to be a much better player than Nembhard.

[Wolveswin]

McDaniels for Nembhard

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?
*Pacers are still deep at guard but trade suggested isn’t complete…would need a guard coming back to Pacers.

Obviously Wolves need a backfill SF…who?

3rd team added to take Pacers plus value and additional Wolves value as needed (Dilly, DDV, or Randle when he can be traded).

Is it easier for Wolves to complete their roster with backcourt solved (Nembhard/Edwards) but find a fitting SF?

To even consider trading McDaniels, the primary return has to be a much better player than Nembhard.

Try reading the whole post.

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?

[jscott]

McDaniels for Nembhard

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?
*Pacers are still deep at guard but trade suggested isn’t complete…would need a guard coming back to Pacers.

Obviously Wolves need a backfill SF…who?

3rd team added to take Pacers plus value and additional Wolves value as needed (Dilly, DDV, or Randle when he can be traded).

Is it easier for Wolves to complete their roster with backcourt solved (Nembhard/Edwards) but find a fitting SF?

This is trash.

[Wolveswin]

McDaniels for Nembhard

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?
*Pacers are still deep at guard but trade suggested isn’t complete…would need a guard coming back to Pacers.

Obviously Wolves need a backfill SF…who?

3rd team added to take Pacers plus value and additional Wolves value as needed (Dilly, DDV, or Randle when he can be traded).

Is it easier for Wolves to complete their roster with backcourt solved (Nembhard/Edwards) but find a fitting SF?

To even consider trading McDaniels, the primary return has to be a much better player than Nembhard.

The return isn’t just Nembhard.

[BlacJacMac]

McDaniels for Nembhard

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?
*Pacers are still deep at guard but trade suggested isn’t complete…would need a guard coming back to Pacers.

Obviously Wolves need a backfill SF…who?

3rd team added to take Pacers plus value and additional Wolves value as needed (Dilly, DDV, or Randle when he can be traded).

Is it easier for Wolves to complete their roster with backcourt solved (Nembhard/Edwards) but find a fitting SF?

To even consider trading McDaniels, the primary return has to be a much better player than Nembhard.

Try reading the whole post.

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?

I did. But nebulous other value is obviously not the cornerstone of the trade.

If you trade McDaniels, you have to get a much better player than Nembhard as your primary return.

If you trade a player like Jaden, you trade for quality, not quantity.

[Wolveswin]

To even consider trading McDaniels, the primary return has to be a much better player than Nembhard.

Try reading the whole post.

Obviously Pacers are adding value…how much?

I did. But nebulous other value is obviously not the cornerstone of the trade.

If you trade McDaniels, you have to get a much better player than Nembhard as your primary return.

If you trade a player like Jaden, you trade for quality, not quantity.

I am not sure I agree with that broad brush stroke statement.

McDaniels is a number 3 player on a championship team. A highly skilled role player (role being a starter who has a specific elite skill set). Us Wolves fan are very high on him.

If trading him, you either make him a part of a bigger star trade (not this scenario) or use his value to better the roster as a whole.

Nembhard is Pacers version of McDaniels. Just as a guard and not as elite.

Per my post, it is not nebulous other value - it is how much value do Pacers add that becomes a SF to backfill Jaden. Let finish the trade as an EXAMPLE…

To Pacers: McDaniels/Sasser
To Pistons: Walker/Dilly
To Wolves: Nembhard/Ausar/Pacers 1st

Assuming Pistons can be talked into trading one of their two SFs and Ausar as that SF, Wolves are left with a much more complete roster:

Gobert/Reid/Beringer
Randle/Reid
Ausar/Miller
Edwards/DDV
Nembhard/Conley

If Ausar is a lite version of Jaden and in short time become Jaden, Wolves solved their backcourt AND rounded out their roster.