3toheadmelo wrote:Yikes I’ll pass
that’s the issue with him. he doesn’t really make himself a threat to score even in the most obvious situations so opponents know to he’s basically always looking to pass the rock
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3toheadmelo wrote:Yikes I’ll pass
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.
If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.
If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.
3toheadmelo wrote:Yikes I’ll pass
thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way
mpharris36 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.
If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.
He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.
But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:mpharris36 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.
If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.
He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.
But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.
I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.
He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.
He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:mpharris36 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.
If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.
He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.
But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.
I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.
He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.
He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:mpharris36 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.
If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.
He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.
But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.
I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.
He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.
He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.
thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
mpharris36 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:mpharris36 wrote:
He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.
But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.
I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.
He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.
He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.
who would he play over?
Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/Mitch/Hart/Deuce/Clarkson/Yabu would all be over him in the rotation. That is 9 guys.
Guano wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way
If Ben had Precious' confidence he would be a HOF.
Guano wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way
If Ben had Precious' confidence he would be a HOF.
TheGreenArrow wrote:mpharris36 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.
He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.
He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.
who would he play over?
Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/Mitch/Hart/Deuce/Clarkson/Yabu would all be over him in the rotation. That is 9 guys.
I can’t pull it up but begley said in a recent interview on one of the yahoo podcasts that brown is looking to have a 10man rotation because he wants to play really fast and not put a lot of miles on the starters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which makes there infatuation with Simmons understandable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
god shammgod wrote:Guano wrote:thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way
If Ben had Precious' confidence he would be a HOF.
Precious’s confidence has taken him out of the league it seems. He’ll probably get a training camp invite somewhere.
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.