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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#261 » by DaGawd » Wed Aug 6, 2025 3:48 am

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that’s the issue with him. he doesn’t really make himself a threat to score even in the most obvious situations so opponents know to he’s basically always looking to pass the rock
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#262 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Aug 6, 2025 4:12 am

Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.


If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#263 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Aug 6, 2025 11:43 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.


If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#264 » by mpharris36 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 1:20 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.


If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.


He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.

But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#265 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Aug 6, 2025 1:29 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Yikes I’ll pass
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I've been saying this since July. Ben would end up on this forums sh*t list from the moment he checks into a game. He's horrible, mentally compromised, big for nothing and doesn't want to take any contact.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#266 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Aug 6, 2025 1:33 pm

Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way
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Post#267 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed Aug 6, 2025 1:43 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way


I think he’s coming to play a significant role unfortunately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#268 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Aug 6, 2025 2:02 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.


If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.


He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.

But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.



I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.

He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.

He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#269 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Aug 6, 2025 2:13 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.


If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.


He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.

But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.



I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.

He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.

He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.

Agreed. He should embrace being Batum without a 3 point shot
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Post#270 » by Rodimus921 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 2:35 pm

Golden State Warriors receives :

Kyle Kuzma
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Milwaukee Bucks receives :

Karl Anthony Towns
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#271 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Aug 6, 2025 2:49 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.


If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.


He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.

But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.



I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.

He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.

He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.


He's a big dude who can push the ball in transition and has good passing skills and defense. If he was 5-6 inches shorter he would never have been drafted in the first round let alone a lottery pick.

He can't shoot the ball at all. He knows it. It's the reason he is weak mentally. The pressure of being a top pick and knowing he can't live up to it crushed him. His injuries made it worse. He took the bag twice. Knowing full well he was robbing people.

The idea of him never lives up to the reality. Bust.

Better options:
Brogdon in bubble wrap?
RWB?
Shamet?
Some drunk guy with a wooden leg?

I was sort of interested in him but, not anymore because the above reasons. It's only a vet mini and I still don't want him.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#272 » by mpharris36 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 2:54 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Ben would be decent as a backup C, but he still views himself as a PG. Also, playing him with Hart is basically impossible, they do the same things on offense, with Hart at least looking to shoot. But, from a floor balance standpoint they both want to hang out in the dunkers spot. He actually makes some sense next to KAT in some lineups, but his lack of offense and complete desire not to score is why he's almost out the league.


If you can get him on the minimum, then yeah, it's worth the risk as there's not much else out there. He makes sense in the way that Clarkson is not trying to pass, but he and Hart are water and oil.


He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.

But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.



I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.

He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.

He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.



who would he play over?

Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/Mitch/Hart/Deuce/Clarkson/Yabu would all be over him in the rotation. That is 9 guys.
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Post#273 » by Juco24 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 2:54 pm

That moment when you thought you were getting Giannis and ended up with Simmons. LMAO
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Post#274 » by Guano » Wed Aug 6, 2025 3:14 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way


If Ben had Precious' confidence he would be a HOF.
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Post#275 » by TheGreenArrow » Wed Aug 6, 2025 3:24 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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He would basically be the 10th man in the rotation which I see as a off/on guy. Not locked into minutes every night at the vet min. I don't know if he would sign up for that but thats basically his role. Being able to sub him in late in qtrs and games for defense would be a nice weapon since he's one of the few players that legit can guard 1-5 in the league. And in the non hart minutes you probably play him alongside KAT for a few minutes a night and make it work.

But you really can't play him alongside another non shooter or the spacing gets messed up.



I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.

He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.

He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.



who would he play over?

Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/Mitch/Hart/Deuce/Clarkson/Yabu would all be over him in the rotation. That is 9 guys.


I can’t pull it up but begley said in a recent interview on one of the yahoo podcasts that brown is looking to have a 10man rotation because he wants to play really fast and not put a lot of miles on the starters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which makes there infatuation with Simmons understandable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#276 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Aug 6, 2025 3:27 pm

Guano wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way


If Ben had Precious' confidence he would be a HOF.

We need this polarizing player.

Precious would try to do too much, Simmons won’t try to do enough. It’ll be awesome
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Post#277 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Aug 6, 2025 3:30 pm

Brencious Simmhiuwa would be an amazing player
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Post#278 » by god shammgod » Wed Aug 6, 2025 3:44 pm

Guano wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way


If Ben had Precious' confidence he would be a HOF.


Precious’s confidence has taken him out of the league it seems. He’ll probably get a training camp invite somewhere.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#279 » by mpharris36 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 3:55 pm

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I don't think he'd be a tenth man, at the end of the day he has size and defensive versatility so he'd absolutely play.

He's broken mentally, the guy still has the tools to be a really good backup center but he just refuses to accept that he is in fact a center. He could run offense from the top of the key like Ihart, but he also refuses to put pressure on the rim and passes in floater range because he doesn't want to get fouled and go to the line.

He's one of the most confusing players I've ever seen.



who would he play over?

Brunson/Mikal/OG/KAT/Mitch/Hart/Deuce/Clarkson/Yabu would all be over him in the rotation. That is 9 guys.


I can’t pull it up but begley said in a recent interview on one of the yahoo podcasts that brown is looking to have a 10man rotation because he wants to play really fast and not put a lot of miles on the starters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which makes there infatuation with Simmons understandable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I'm not saying he can't have a 10 man rotation...and I very much value playing fast and lowering minutes for a big names especially in the regular season.

But even the 10th guy in an expanded rotation is going to be lucky to get 10 minutes.
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Post#280 » by Guano » Wed Aug 6, 2025 3:56 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Guano wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:Ben can fill the Precious role but with more offensive versatility, in his unusual way


If Ben had Precious' confidence he would be a HOF.


Precious’s confidence has taken him out of the league it seems. He’ll probably get a training camp invite somewhere.



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