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Jokic begs to differ, unlike when he's playing (and winning) basket and looking grumpy af, here's Jokic when his horse just won:SlimShady83 wrote:I'm bored as hell we need basketball
Win the championship
1 week to celebrate ok ok I'll allow 2 weeks, because I'm nice
1 week trade season
1 week summer league
And get back to It LOL
I want basketball now!
UcanUwill wrote:Just started to watch Belgian GP, I am few hours behind... But man, safety procedures ruined F1, the most exiting thing in F1 used to be rain, now they do not allow them to race at all during rain. I get that safety is important, but they used to race during rain all the time in the past and everyone were fine, I imagine these current racers probably wouldn't be fine because at this point, apart from grandpa Alonso, none of these pilots ever raced during this condition and wouldn't know what to do.
I was so exited to learm that it might rain during race, and now I see black flag, very disappointing.
Clav wrote:UcanUwill wrote:Just started to watch Belgian GP, I am few hours behind... But man, safety procedures ruined F1, the most exiting thing in F1 used to be rain, now they do not allow them to race at all during rain. I get that safety is important, but they used to race during rain all the time in the past and everyone were fine, I imagine these current racers probably wouldn't be fine because at this point, apart from grandpa Alonso, none of these pilots ever raced during this condition and wouldn't know what to do.
I was so exited to learm that it might rain during race, and now I see black flag, very disappointing.
Yeah, I watched Belgian GP yesterday as well. Was excited for the prospect of rain but these cars kick up so much spray with the ground effect of the floor, etc, no one can see behind... I know it's a bit insane to send drivers out on the track to do flat out racing while objectively blinded by water, but that's basically what everyone wants to see as entertainment. We could've had a legendary GP this weekend, instead, it was just cars circulating on a legendary track.
I do agree with your sentiment though, safety is affecting the product, let me open that up a bit because it's not all safety... their regulations are adversely affecting the product. This series of regs are all about generating aerodynamic advantage, in doing so they've basically messed up two parts of the "racing" aspect; inclement weather racing- due to spray generated- and passing/following in corners -due to 'dirty air-/turbulence'. In rainy or wet conditions you can actually see the way that air pushes out and behind the cars, it's amazing how significant it really is. Thankfully there have been a handful of rainy races in these regulations where somehow they have managed to race in the water.
But these rules are out after this season, and next year's change may reduce this turbulence from the back of the car but I'm not holding my breath on that at all.
They have cars with the upmost safety specs on them, and the halo, and a whole complement of incredible developments, even a bunch of unused wet-tyres sitting in the pit lanes while it is heavily raining under red-flags, which defeats the purpose of having wet tyres at all. If these cars' safety components are so good, and the track has FIA-grade 1 safety standards, which they all do, then start the damn race on time.
If we're just going to race in the dry, then mandate it. If we are going to race in all conditions, FIA, please, figure this out.
Ruma85 wrote:Clav wrote:UcanUwill wrote:Just started to watch Belgian GP, I am few hours behind... But man, safety procedures ruined F1, the most exiting thing in F1 used to be rain, now they do not allow them to race at all during rain. I get that safety is important, but they used to race during rain all the time in the past and everyone were fine, I imagine these current racers probably wouldn't be fine because at this point, apart from grandpa Alonso, none of these pilots ever raced during this condition and wouldn't know what to do.
I was so exited to learm that it might rain during race, and now I see black flag, very disappointing.
Yeah, I watched Belgian GP yesterday as well. Was excited for the prospect of rain but these cars kick up so much spray with the ground effect of the floor, etc, no one can see behind... I know it's a bit insane to send drivers out on the track to do flat out racing while objectively blinded by water, but that's basically what everyone wants to see as entertainment. We could've had a legendary GP this weekend, instead, it was just cars circulating on a legendary track.
I do agree with your sentiment though, safety is affecting the product, let me open that up a bit because it's not all safety... their regulations are adversely affecting the product. This series of regs are all about generating aerodynamic advantage, in doing so they've basically messed up two parts of the "racing" aspect; inclement weather racing- due to spray generated- and passing/following in corners -due to 'dirty air-/turbulence'. In rainy or wet conditions you can actually see the way that air pushes out and behind the cars, it's amazing how significant it really is. Thankfully there have been a handful of rainy races in these regulations where somehow they have managed to race in the water.
But these rules are out after this season, and next year's change may reduce this turbulence from the back of the car but I'm not holding my breath on that at all.
They have cars with the upmost safety specs on them, and the halo, and a whole complement of incredible developments, even a bunch of unused wet-tyres sitting in the pit lanes while it is heavily raining under red-flags, which defeats the purpose of having wet tyres at all. If these cars' safety components are so good, and the track has FIA-grade 1 safety standards, which they all do, then start the damn race on time.
If we're just going to race in the dry, then mandate it. If we are going to race in all conditions, FIA, please, figure this out.
Was this preseason?
Clav wrote:Ruma85 wrote:Clav wrote:
Yeah, I watched Belgian GP yesterday as well. Was excited for the prospect of rain but these cars kick up so much spray with the ground effect of the floor, etc, no one can see behind... I know it's a bit insane to send drivers out on the track to do flat out racing while objectively blinded by water, but that's basically what everyone wants to see as entertainment. We could've had a legendary GP this weekend, instead, it was just cars circulating on a legendary track.
I do agree with your sentiment though, safety is affecting the product, let me open that up a bit because it's not all safety... their regulations are adversely affecting the product. This series of regs are all about generating aerodynamic advantage, in doing so they've basically messed up two parts of the "racing" aspect; inclement weather racing- due to spray generated- and passing/following in corners -due to 'dirty air-/turbulence'. In rainy or wet conditions you can actually see the way that air pushes out and behind the cars, it's amazing how significant it really is. Thankfully there have been a handful of rainy races in these regulations where somehow they have managed to race in the water.
But these rules are out after this season, and next year's change may reduce this turbulence from the back of the car but I'm not holding my breath on that at all.
They have cars with the upmost safety specs on them, and the halo, and a whole complement of incredible developments, even a bunch of unused wet-tyres sitting in the pit lanes while it is heavily raining under red-flags, which defeats the purpose of having wet tyres at all. If these cars' safety components are so good, and the track has FIA-grade 1 safety standards, which they all do, then start the damn race on time.
If we're just going to race in the dry, then mandate it. If we are going to race in all conditions, FIA, please, figure this out.
Was this preseason?
just replying to UcanUWill about Formula 1, probably the wrong thread overall lol but we're both racing fans.
NBA preseason begins in October!
F1 is in mid-season rn.
UcanUwill wrote:Clav wrote:Ruma85 wrote:
Was this preseason?
just replying to UcanUWill about Formula 1, probably the wrong thread overall lol but we're both racing fans.
NBA preseason begins in October!
F1 is in mid-season rn.
Bisme said this thread mostly nba related, but we can post other things too, so I did.
I never liked how stricked general board was, any offtopic threads are just not allowed, I would like at least one offtopic thread to be here always, because it would be interesting to see what others think of certain topics, and this board is by far the most popular. Now, if I want to post about something non nba related, my best bet is Knicks board. I get this is nba forum, but this is a community.
Ruma85 wrote:
I meant was this the preseason for f1.
Summer is when F1 reaches half season mark. Their offseason happens during winter. 
“He was moving really well,” said the scout in a phone conversation with Heavy Sports later that day. “There might have been a slight limp or something, but the surprising thing to me is that he didn’t have a boot for any of it."
“I’m no doctor, but I’ve seen guys coming back from Achilles’ tears, and he looked way ahead. I was kind of shocked to see how well he was moving. I have no idea for what any of this means for when he can come back. I’m sure him and the Celtics’ medical people have their program set up, and they’ll make sure that he’s where he needs to be when he does get back. But he looks great right now. Of course, he didn’t do any running or even jogging, but he was in great shape and he had no trouble doing his part at the camp.”
“This is the third iteration of this camp. This year and last year, he’s run it with Chris Paul. The year before — the inaugural year — he had at his camp in St. Louis Cooper Flagg, VJ Edgecomb… he literally had most of the top picks from this year’s draft. Teams really have to pay attention.”
bisme37 wrote:Tatum looking good yay“He was moving really well,” said the scout in a phone conversation with Heavy Sports later that day. “There might have been a slight limp or something, but the surprising thing to me is that he didn’t have a boot for any of it."
“I’m no doctor, but I’ve seen guys coming back from Achilles’ tears, and he looked way ahead. I was kind of shocked to see how well he was moving. I have no idea for what any of this means for when he can come back. I’m sure him and the Celtics’ medical people have their program set up, and they’ll make sure that he’s where he needs to be when he does get back. But he looks great right now. Of course, he didn’t do any running or even jogging, but he was in great shape and he had no trouble doing his part at the camp.”
https://heavy.com/sports/nba/boston-celtics/jayson-tatum-moving-well-cp3-camp/
And sound like he's becoming a real mentor with young guys in the league...“This is the third iteration of this camp. This year and last year, he’s run it with Chris Paul. The year before — the inaugural year — he had at his camp in St. Louis Cooper Flagg, VJ Edgecomb… he literally had most of the top picks from this year’s draft. Teams really have to pay attention.”
“If you ever get a chance to just hold a conversation with him, and he tells you a little bit about himself, he really doesn’t give a f…k about this s…t. He doesn’t care. At all,” mentioned Cousins during an appearance on the Straight Game Podcast, describing his view on the approach of Jokic to basketball, “This is like his second or third favorite thing to do. Maybe third or fourth. Most games, when he’s dropping these crazy stats, he probably doesn’t even want to be there. And that’s the scary part about all of it.”
“When I was with Denver, our lockers were next to each other,” added the 34-year-old center, “And I don’t remember who at the time had signed an extension, but I’m like, ‘Such and such signed for this money, yours is going to be crazy.’ He was like, ‘You know, Cous, I honestly think I might retire after this contract.’ I said, ‘Leave $300 million on the table? Man, you’re out of your motherf…king mind man.’ I said, ‘Sign the contract and just get fat at worst, don’t pass up on the $300 million, bro.’”
UcanUwill wrote:Do you consider Kevin Durant a big? I never did despite KD being legit 7 footer, but guys like Russilo call Kevin Durant a big nowadats, when they talk about KAT and best shooting bigman ever label. At first, it seemed like Dirk was best shooting big ever and true answer to that title, but now more and more I hear KD mentioned there as well. I know how the game is played nowadays, KD is pretty much a big, he even plays small ball ''center'', but overall, I do not think of KD as a ''big'', to me big means position, not height, and career wise I consider KD a small forward overall, what do you think?
GREY wrote: He steps back into another time zone
UcanUwill wrote:https://www.eurohoops.net/en/nba-news/1853316/demarcus-cousins-talks-nikola-jokic-retirement-denver-nuggets-nba
Jokic considered retirement after 2023 season, according to Demarcus Cousins.“If you ever get a chance to just hold a conversation with him, and he tells you a little bit about himself, he really doesn’t give a f…k about this s…t. He doesn’t care. At all,” mentioned Cousins during an appearance on the Straight Game Podcast, describing his view on the approach of Jokic to basketball, “This is like his second or third favorite thing to do. Maybe third or fourth. Most games, when he’s dropping these crazy stats, he probably doesn’t even want to be there. And that’s the scary part about all of it.”
“When I was with Denver, our lockers were next to each other,” added the 34-year-old center, “And I don’t remember who at the time had signed an extension, but I’m like, ‘Such and such signed for this money, yours is going to be crazy.’ He was like, ‘You know, Cus, I honestly think I might retire after this contract.’ I said, ‘Leave $300 million on the table? Man, you’re out of your motherf…king mind man.’ I said, ‘Sign the contract and just get fat at worst, don’t pass up on the $300 million, bro.’”
GREY wrote: He steps back into another time zone
UcanUwill wrote:Do you consider Kevin Durant a big? I never did despite KD being legit 7 footer, but guys like Russilo call Kevin Durant a big nowadats, when they talk about KAT and best shooting bigman ever label. At first, it seemed like Dirk was best shooting big ever and true answer to that title, but now more and more I hear KD mentioned there as well. I know how the game is played nowadays, KD is pretty much a big, he even plays small ball ''center'', but overall, I do not think of KD as a ''big'', to me big means position, not height, and career wise I consider KD a small forward overall, what do you think?
MoreyWins wrote:UcanUwill wrote:Do you consider Kevin Durant a big? I never did despite KD being legit 7 footer, but guys like Russilo call Kevin Durant a big nowadats, when they talk about KAT and best shooting bigman ever label. At first, it seemed like Dirk was best shooting big ever and true answer to that title, but now more and more I hear KD mentioned there as well. I know how the game is played nowadays, KD is pretty much a big, he even plays small ball ''center'', but overall, I do not think of KD as a ''big'', to me big means position, not height, and career wise I consider KD a small forward overall, what do you think?
Career wise KD will be thought of as a SF. Now if we're talking post-achilles 37 year old Kevin Durant in today's league, he should be labeled as a PF.
tsherkin wrote:MoreyWins wrote:UcanUwill wrote:Do you consider Kevin Durant a big? I never did despite KD being legit 7 footer, but guys like Russilo call Kevin Durant a big nowadats, when they talk about KAT and best shooting bigman ever label. At first, it seemed like Dirk was best shooting big ever and true answer to that title, but now more and more I hear KD mentioned there as well. I know how the game is played nowadays, KD is pretty much a big, he even plays small ball ''center'', but overall, I do not think of KD as a ''big'', to me big means position, not height, and career wise I consider KD a small forward overall, what do you think?
Career wise KD will be thought of as a SF. Now if we're talking post-achilles 37 year old Kevin Durant in today's league, he should be labeled as a PF.
Exactly. Guys don't play the same position their whole careers often enough. KD technically started as a 2, then got moved to the 3 and is now more of a 4. Melo moved to the 4 a bunch as a Knick. Duncan rather famously swapped between the 4 and the 5. It's a thing. And as he's slowed down, dealt with age and injury, KD works out better at the 4. Easier to stash him there a lot of the time. Doesn't change much of how he operates offensively, though; more so just on D. Sometimes, he'll catch a mismatch as a result, which is nice, but he can also mismatch hunt with screens anyway.
UcanUwill wrote:Yes, I understand that and agree, but I just mean, he has few years left, when KD is gone, will he qualify for best bigman shooter ever title? I just say, in my arbitrary head, he doesn't, but maybe I am wrong.
No one percieves Magic as a "big man" and rightfully so, even tho he was technucally, a big mantsherkin wrote:UcanUwill wrote:Yes, I understand that and agree, but I just mean, he has few years left, when KD is gone, will he qualify for best bigman shooter ever title? I just say, in my arbitrary head, he doesn't, but maybe I am wrong.
I'd think about it. Since shifting to PF mostly since the Achilles, there isn't anyone I could think of who really comes close, and he's been playing there for quite some time now. Dunno if it's super important, because he's clearly not a CLASSICAL big man, which would be an easy qualifier to help separate things out to speak more of those other archetypes.
As you say, though, the game has considerably less structure to positions these days, which is the extension of an old trend going back to at least the 60s in its most rudimentary form.
Exp0sed wrote:No one percieves Magic as a "big man" and rightfully so, even tho he was technucally, a big man
same goes for KD, no1 will ever regard him on any list of "big men". playing PF in this era, does not make u a big. Is Bruce Brown a big?
