Offseason 2025 Thread

[MasterIchiro]

I’ve been as bad about beating the “need a real center” drum as anyone. Thing is, I’ve recognized by their comments that Jeffie and Charlie are not doing anything else about it. Once they started their “we’re fine, everything is fine” spin on the 5 spot….that was it.

I think the reason why some long time, long term fans are so ticked about it is our Hornets PTSD from previous years. This isn’t the first time they’ve ignored or put a band aid on that position. We yelled then, lots of fans complained, reporters asked multiple times about the concerns, and the front office/coaches all said it was not a problem, the guys they had would work out. Then, when it became obvious it WAS a horrible strategy to run with those poor choices, they just kept using “Coach speak” to cover their ineptitude.

Well I'm proudly the last person who will give a front office a free pass for Plumlee. They crossed a line.

[yosemiteben]

Not taking the bait with you two mods. I understand you don't want me to post here.

No more cheap thrills for you.

If we didn't want you to post here, we'd ban you.

I felt like I gave a very specific response to the issue. This board is not a campaign platform for raising issues to the FO. It's intent is to benefit the people who visit and contribute to the board, not spam grievances in hopes that people who do not contribute to the board happen to come here, see it, and take action on it. Again, there are better forums for doing that.

You've threatened to leave many times. Our goal is not to get you to do that, but we are going to do our jobs and moderate when necessary and we view this to be one of those situations. If you take issue with that, then fine, but it's not personal and only directed at you because you're the one making the argument that this is an acceptable way to post.

[MasterIchiro]

Not taking the bait with you two mods. I understand you don't want me to post here.

No more cheap thrills for you.

If we didn't want you to post here, we'd ban you.

I felt like I gave a very specific response to the issue. This board is not a campaign platform for raising issues to the FO. It's intent is to benefit the people who visit and contribute to the board, not spam grievances in hopes that people who do not contribute to the board happen to come here, see it, and take action on it. Again, there are better forums for doing that.

You've threaten to leave many times. Our goal is not to get you to do that, but we are going to do our jobs and moderate when necessary and we view this to be one of those situations. If you take issue with that, then fine, but it's not personal and only directed at you because you're the one making the argument that this is an acceptable way to post.

Trust me.

I'm well aware of the culture established here.

It does not embrace passion.

It mocks it.

Impossible to convey this impression, so not worth it when mods mock, diminish, mute, and clamp down on lines of conversation rather than conducting and facilitating communications, and micromanaging content, treating conversation like its some job.

Ben, you, more than ANYONE I've ever met in ANY fan base where I am an active participant, merely echoe organizational authorities at the expense of passionate fans. You take pride in that **** too.

[yosemiteben]

Not taking the bait with you two mods. I understand you don't want me to post here.

No more cheap thrills for you.

If we didn't want you to post here, we'd ban you.

I felt like I gave a very specific response to the issue. This board is not a campaign platform for raising issues to the FO. It's intent is to benefit the people who visit and contribute to the board, not spam grievances in hopes that people who do not contribute to the board happen to come here, see it, and take action on it. Again, there are better forums for doing that.

You've threaten to leave many times. Our goal is not to get you to do that, but we are going to do our jobs and moderate when necessary and we view this to be one of those situations. If you take issue with that, then fine, but it's not personal and only directed at you because you're the one making the argument that this is an acceptable way to post.

Trust me.

I'm well aware of the culture established here.

It does not embrace passion.

It mocks it.

Impossible to convey this impression, so not worth it when mods mock, diminish, mute, and clamp down on lines of conversation rather than conducting and facilitating communications, and micromanaging content, treating conversation like its some job.

Ben, you, more than ANYONE I've ever met in ANY fan base where I am an active participant, merely echoe organizational authorities at the expense of passionate fans. You take pride in that **** too.

You can resort to personal attacks all you want.

I promise you that moderating on here is very much not an enjoyable way for me to spend my time.

Please abide by the mod groups instruction or you will take another vacation.

[MasterIchiro]

If we didn't want you to post here, we'd ban you.

I felt like I gave a very specific response to the issue. This board is not a campaign platform for raising issues to the FO. It's intent is to benefit the people who visit and contribute to the board, not spam grievances in hopes that people who do not contribute to the board happen to come here, see it, and take action on it. Again, there are better forums for doing that.

You've threaten to leave many times. Our goal is not to get you to do that, but we are going to do our jobs and moderate when necessary and we view this to be one of those situations. If you take issue with that, then fine, but it's not personal and only directed at you because you're the one making the argument that this is an acceptable way to post.

Trust me.

I'm well aware of the culture established here.

It does not embrace passion.

It mocks it.

Impossible to convey this impression, so not worth it when mods mock, diminish, mute, and clamp down on lines of conversation rather than conducting and facilitating communications, and micromanaging content, treating conversation like its some job.

Ben, you, more than ANYONE I've ever met in ANY fan base where I am an active participant, merely echoe organizational authorities at the expense of passionate fans. You take pride in that **** too.

You can resort to personal attacks all you want.

Please abide by the mod groups instruction or you will take another vacation.

I've observed patterns here for 12 years now?

I do not mean for my observations to come across as personal attacks.

The bottom line is you and I have fundamental differences about the nature of fandom.

But I get it.

I am the child throwing temper tantrums. And you are the adult threatening to send me to timeout.

[SWedd523]

If it doesn't violate CoC then ignore it and move on

Piling on him just to say you don't like what he's saying comes off as baiting

[JustBuzzin]

Guys it's not hard to ignore someone. If you don't like the opinion just don't respond lol

[Walt Cronkite]

Guys it's not hard to ignore someone. If you don't like the opinion just don't respond lol

This is usually good advice, but the Mods can't ignore users and one user in particular pretty regularly resorts to personal attacks against them. I believe it was just yesterday YB(Not sure, don't care enough to check), was accused of being easily confused, which is an attack on his cognitive abilities.

If the poster really thought their dissatisfaction with the center position could influence the FO's decision making, wouldn't creating an online petition be more reasonable than spamming the board? Has a change.org petition been created, promoted and then circled around these Hornets influencers in order to raise awareness to the FO? Not to my knowledge. I have skimmed past and ignored a multitude of posts accusing the fanbase, the posters on the board and some free help moderators of the board in particular of being complicit in some scheme to keep the Hornets intentionally bad though.

It makes the board a worse place to visit. It doesn't punish the FO, it punishes the fellow sicko supporters of this club. It isn't discussion in good faith, it's boredom based trolling. I would've given them their wish ages ago because bad posters run off good ones.

[MasterIchiro]

Guys it's not hard to ignore someone. If you don't like the opinion just don't respond lol

This is usually good advice, but the Mods can't ignore users and one user in particular pretty regularly resorts to personal attacks against them. I believe it was just yesterday YB(Not sure, don't care enough to check), was accused of being easily confused, which is an attack on his cognitive abilities.

If the poster really thought their dissatisfaction with the center position could influence the FO's decision making, wouldn't creating an online petition be more reasonable than spamming the board? Has a change.org petition been created, promoted and then circled around these Hornets influencers in order to raise awareness to the FO? Not to my knowledge. I have skimmed past and ignored a multitude of posts accusing the fanbase, the posters on the board and some free help moderators of the board in particular of being complicit in some scheme to keep the Hornets intentionally bad though.

It makes the board a worse place to visit. It doesn't punish the FO, it punishes the fellow sicko supporters of this club. It isn't discussion in good faith, it's boredom based trolling. I would've given them their wish ages ago because bad posters run off good ones.

Why don't you recognize claims of confusion as an attack on others' cognitive abilities? He gets to hide behind claims of confusion over things that are perfectly clear and logical? Then gets to suggest I'm so out of my **** mind that I'm hoping the front office reads my posts?

[MasterIchiro]

Guys it's not hard to ignore someone. If you don't like the opinion just don't respond lol

This is usually good advice, but the Mods can't ignore users and one user in particular pretty regularly resorts to personal attacks against them. I believe it was just yesterday YB(Not sure, don't care enough to check), was accused of being easily confused, which is an attack on his cognitive abilities.

If the poster really thought their dissatisfaction with the center position could influence the FO's decision making, wouldn't creating an online petition be more reasonable than spamming the board? Has a change.org petition been created, promoted and then circled around these Hornets influencers in order to raise awareness to the FO? Not to my knowledge. I have skimmed past and ignored a multitude of posts accusing the fanbase, the posters on the board and some free help moderators of the board in particular of being complicit in some scheme to keep the Hornets intentionally bad though.

It makes the board a worse place to visit. It doesn't punish the FO, it punishes the fellow sicko supporters of this club. It isn't discussion in good faith, it's boredom based trolling. I would've given them their wish ages ago because bad posters run off good ones.

Why don't you recognize claims of confusion as an attack on others' cognitive abilities? He gets to hide behind claims of confusion over things that are perfectly clear and logical? Then gets to suggest I'm so out of my **** mind that I'm hoping the front office reads my posts?

The kicker is the other mod who hates me tags in the instant I dismiss the fake confusion, and stomps on the suggestion that I'm so delusional and whacko that I am hoping for the front office to read my posts. This **** is so petty and immature, man. But it's all on me in your eyes.

[fatlever]

MI, if you want to continue this discussion about moderating, then we are more than happy to engage this conversation via private messaging.

Otherwise, let's move on.

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[yosemiteben]

They're playing it on pretty thick here

Read on Twitter

Also shoutout to Kon for the David Bowie look

[Chapelchilla]

They're playing it on pretty thick here

Read on Twitter

Also shoutout to Kon for the David Bowie look

Yeah, that's pretty over the top. Nice sentiment if they can back it up in the future though.

The front office does not at all take this board into consideration in their decision making. It may be better sometimes if they did, but they don't.
RGM board is very much niche thing. Reddit, Facebook, X, Instagram - are all much better venues to get eyes on your opinions.

[Liver_Pooty]

The front office never considers this board into consideration. They shouldn’t either.

[fatlever]

i enjoyed walker's rant today on loh about the $50 shirts. he was spot on. corporate greed is everywhere. cant escape it.

[Bassman]

I honestly wonder if at least some of this heavy “foundation” stuff and public “culture” marketing is also aimed at the current players?

Every organization uses branding and slogans to reinforce company direction, goals and expectations. They”cast the vision” and use repetitive messaging to make sure employees get on board. Some of this Hornet’s stuff may be that, some is certainly marketing. But if Melo and some others can’t get the message being sent, they just don’t want to hear it.

[Chapelchilla]

I honestly wonder if at least some of this heavy “foundation” stuff and public “culture” marketing is also aimed at the current players?

Every organization uses branding and slogans to reinforce company direction, goals and expectations. They”cast the vision” and use repetitive messaging to make sure employees get on board. Some of this Hornet’s stuff may be that, some is certainly marketing. But if Melo and some others can’t get the message being sent, they just don’t want to hear it.

I believe it is absolutely aimed at the team too. The lack of accountability from them during the Bouknight/Kai/Miles meltdown era had to be corrected. Hopefully they will take it to heart. The new guys will help.

[yosemiteben]

Some interesting nuggets from Boone's recent interview with Grant Williams:

“Because as you see, the Hornets are making an environmental shift. We are trying to make our organizational change to not only make our organization better but the play itself better. And I think that the players that we added in Liam and all the other rookies will help us do that.”

Roderick Boone: The roster looks a little different than it did a couple of months ago. How do you characterize the team’s offseason moves?

Grant Willams: ...Geez, you could go down the line with a lot of names that we can add, so we are just super excited not only about the scoring potential but the ability to compete at a high level every single night even when guys are out.

RB: What have you witnessed from LaMelo this offseason as taking a step forward as a leader on and off the court?

GW: He’s doing a lot of things that bring value. Not only his voice, but just his approach. He’s in there every single day. He’s there and present and I think is somebody we can look to and see like, ‘He’s actually putting the work in every single day, not this person who is away from us and claims to be doing the work.’ No, he’s doing it every single day. He’s doing every single workout, he’s being available.

Not only just from a like, ‘Hey, let’s go do this.’ If maybe we do a mini camp, ‘Let’s organize this, I’ll take care of these guys, I’ll do this.’ So, he’s being very, very welcoming in a sense of as a leader and understanding that he’s going to have to take it to a more mature step in his role in order for us to be the best team possible.

RB: How can Collin help him out?

GW: His intensity, I think, will help him out, because his seriousness, his pressure, and his ability to not only take the scoring load off him will also be very valuable. Because now LaMelo doesn’t have to force these shots, because he has a guy like Tre Mann, he has a guy like Collin, he has some guys that can really offload that scoring opportunity but also give him a break. Because his minutes, high intensity, now you have a chance to be more impactful in a short amount of time rather than have to play these overextended minutes and lose your focus or ability.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/charlotte-hornets/article311481720.html

[Bassman]

Thanks Ben…that was a great excerpt and good news from Grant. I love everything he said, especially how LaMelo is putting in the work and effort every day, which he also politely implied wasn’t previously the case (reading between the lines), so that is a big step for him in maturity and commitment.

[GiggitySmalls]

For the life of me I cant see why we still haven't inquired about Claxton. Brooklyn is openly tanking. We have the assets. Freaking get it done.

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