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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#61 » by tsherkin » Wed Aug 6, 2025 4:04 pm

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Or nobody wanted him?


Do you honestly think a player like PJ Tucker or Kelly Olynyk have more value?


Do you honestly believe our FO sat him for a 'weird reason' and turned down free assets knowing they were going to let him walk in Free Agency?


What, you didn't believe in taller Pops Mensah-Bonsu with a 3?
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#62 » by Duffman100 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 4:09 pm

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Do you honestly think a player like PJ Tucker or Kelly Olynyk have more value?


Do you honestly believe our FO sat him for a 'weird reason' and turned down free assets knowing they were going to let him walk in Free Agency?


What, you didn't believe in taller Pops Mensah-Bonsu with a 3?


Boucher is such a funny player to me. I'll both miss him and not.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#63 » by tsherkin » Wed Aug 6, 2025 4:22 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Boucher is such a funny player to me. I'll both miss him and not.


Sometimes, it's nice to have those players around, heh.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#64 » by LarSiN » Wed Aug 6, 2025 4:29 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:This is year 9 for Boucher, NBA pension is 10yrs if I am not mistaken. Playing 10yrs in the league after starting at 25 is amazing, + he won a ring
Spotrac has him 8yrs 50mill - lengedry career
Hopefully he plays well to get one more gig somewhere


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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#65 » by LarSiN » Wed Aug 6, 2025 4:30 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:We totally boned this guy by sitting him out because he was costing us Ls. Guaranteed he's gonna end us in a play-in game.


I don't see BOS making the play in this year
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#66 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Aug 6, 2025 6:26 pm

Looks like the Celtics are certain now that Horford is gone to GSW, and they didn't want to lose both players to GSW, so they just went ahead.

Kuminga is holding up a bunch of players still apparently.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#67 » by ForeverTFC » Wed Aug 6, 2025 6:35 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
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Or nobody wanted him?


Do you honestly think a player like PJ Tucker or Kelly Olynyk have more value?


Do you honestly believe our FO sat him for a 'weird reason' and turned down free assets knowing they were going to let him walk in Free Agency?


Kelly definitely has more value, the market proves it over and over.

Teams wanted Boucher. He was just hard to trade for with his salary. The Raptors didn't want to take any term back and wanted at least a 2nd or two. If you look at the cap sheets of the teams that were interested (Nuggets, Celtics, Warriors), how many had the expiring salary match + a pick or 2 to give up? Especially as no team would need his bird rights to sign him in FA.

I am a bit surprised that the team didn't buy him out or release him past last deadline, but it may have been to prove a point to the market. If I remember correctly, teams including the Nuggets were interesting in signing him if he was waived. Sucks for Chris as he may have been able to earn more this summer if he had caught on somewhere last year and helped with a playoff push.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#68 » by ForeverTFC » Wed Aug 6, 2025 6:37 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Looks like the Celtics are certain now that Horford is gone to GSW, and they didn't want to lose both players to GSW, so they just went ahead.

Kuminga is holding up a bunch of players still apparently.


I thought Boucher was headed to Warriors for sure. Probably wanted the security at this point and didn't want to keep waiting. Boston might be a better fit for him anyways.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#69 » by DutchCanuck » Wed Aug 6, 2025 6:45 pm

Raps fan here watched this guy his whole career.

Pro's: Occasionally hits a couple corner 3's and blocks a couple shots

Cons: Big man who chucks 3's at a low percentage, makes a lot of really dumb mistakes gets bulled by most big men and acts like he's LeBron James if he gets a tip in.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#70 » by Tofubeque » Wed Aug 6, 2025 6:50 pm

Glad he got a deal, wish it was with anyone but Boston lol. Preferably a western team, not looking forward to him going 5-6 from 3 and swinging a game against us.

Raptors all-time leading bench scorer and a champion, deserves a bit more respect though I get why he was a frustrating watch for people.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#71 » by PushDaRock » Wed Aug 6, 2025 6:54 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Do you honestly think a player like PJ Tucker or Kelly Olynyk have more value?


Do you honestly believe our FO sat him for a 'weird reason' and turned down free assets knowing they were going to let him walk in Free Agency?


Kelly definitely has more value, the market proves it over and over.

Teams wanted Boucher. He was just hard to trade for with his salary. The Raptors didn't want to take any term back and wanted at least a 2nd or two. If you look at the cap sheets of the teams that were interested (Nuggets, Celtics, Warriors), how many had the expiring salary match + a pick or 2 to give up? Especially as no team would need his bird rights to sign him in FA.

I am a bit surprised that the team didn't buy him out or release him past last deadline, but it may have been to prove a point to the market. If I remember correctly, teams including the Nuggets were interesting in signing him if he was waived. Sucks for Chris as he may have been able to earn more this summer if he had caught on somewhere last year and helped with a playoff push.


If Boucher wanted to get bought out, he would have been I'm sure.

I'm not sure why he didn't want to be, but going to a playoff team as a buyout doesn't always work out too well as far as improving a player's value. You're going into a new system on at least a decent team and it's not always easy to fit and then also have to beat out competition for minutes. It can backfire sometimes too and there are countless examples of that. We saw that after adding Jeremy Lin. He was having a solid year in Atlanta before getting bought out, joined us for the championship run, never got comfortable in our system, didn't play well and he was out of the league after that. Gordon Hayward wasn't bought out but he went from productive starter to bench warmer in OKC and then retired the next year.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#72 » by Johnny Bball » Wed Aug 6, 2025 7:00 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Do you honestly think a player like PJ Tucker or Kelly Olynyk have more value?


Do you honestly believe our FO sat him for a 'weird reason' and turned down free assets knowing they were going to let him walk in Free Agency?


Kelly definitely has more value, the market proves it over and over.

Teams wanted Boucher. He was just hard to trade for with his salary. The Raptors didn't want to take any term back and wanted at least a 2nd or two. If you look at the cap sheets of the teams that were interested (Nuggets, Celtics, Warriors), how many had the expiring salary match + a pick or 2 to give up? Especially as no team would need his bird rights to sign him in FA.

I am a bit surprised that the team didn't buy him out or release him past last deadline, but it may have been to prove a point to the market. If I remember correctly, teams including the Nuggets were interesting in signing him if he was waived. Sucks for Chris as he may have been able to earn more this summer if he had caught on somewhere last year and helped with a playoff push.


I remember hearing they offered but Boucher wanted to stay out the season. I suspect he's going to always have Toronto as home and just play year to year elsewhere.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#73 » by HiJiNX » Wed Aug 6, 2025 7:09 pm

I’ve always been a big fan. When he’s on he can win you games by himself, which is a good bench player in this league. Most bench players are guys you want to carry water while the starters get rest but a guy like Boucher can really raise the ceiling when he’s on. Gonna miss him.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#74 » by Pointgod » Wed Aug 6, 2025 7:42 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Or nobody wanted him?


Do you honestly think a player like PJ Tucker or Kelly Olynyk have more value?


Do you honestly believe our FO sat him for a 'weird reason' and turned down free assets knowing they were going to let him walk in Free Agency?


Any front office that though Boucher was coming back after our coaching staff sat him to end the year is out to lunch. We got a second round pick for Davion Mitchell. Less useful players were acquired for second round picks. I don’t think our front office shopped him particularly hard because I’m pretty sure a deal could be made.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#75 » by Duffman100 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 8:02 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Do you honestly think a player like PJ Tucker or Kelly Olynyk have more value?


Do you honestly believe our FO sat him for a 'weird reason' and turned down free assets knowing they were going to let him walk in Free Agency?


Any front office that though Boucher was coming back after our coaching staff sat him to end the year is out to lunch. We got a second round pick for Davion Mitchell. Less useful players were acquired for second round picks. I don’t think our front office shopped him particularly hard because I’m pretty sure a deal could be made.


What a bizarre conclusion to make.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#76 » by HumbleRen » Wed Aug 6, 2025 8:19 pm

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ATLTimekeeper wrote:We totally boned this guy by sitting him out because he was costing us Ls. Guaranteed he's gonna end us in a play-in game.


We probably made him lost alot of money, granted we overpaid him on his last contract but still, that's pretty lame of the FO to hurt his money like that.

We lost him exactly $0.

No one needed to watch Boucher play on a tanking team to decide if they were going to pay him this off-season. The money around the league is just dried up.


I just don’t believe that at all. We jerked him around for 2 years straight.
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Post#77 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Aug 6, 2025 9:37 pm

Hope Boucher does well in BOS but he wasn't a fit stylistically, especially offensively since Darko took over. All the Raps bigs or jumbo wings are solid or above playmakers, which isn't a coincidence.
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#78 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 10:38 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
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We probably made him lost alot of money, granted we overpaid him on his last contract but still, that's pretty lame of the FO to hurt his money like that.

We lost him exactly $0.

No one needed to watch Boucher play on a tanking team to decide if they were going to pay him this off-season. The money around the league is just dried up.


I just don’t believe that at all. We jerked him around for 2 years straight.


Better players got the same deal
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#79 » by Pointgod » Wed Aug 6, 2025 10:45 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
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Do you honestly believe our FO sat him for a 'weird reason' and turned down free assets knowing they were going to let him walk in Free Agency?


Any front office that though Boucher was coming back after our coaching staff sat him to end the year is out to lunch. We got a second round pick for Davion Mitchell. Less useful players were acquired for second round picks. I don’t think our front office shopped him particularly hard because I’m pretty sure a deal could be made.


What a bizarre conclusion to make.


It’s less bizarre than the conclusion that Chris Boucher had less value than Jaden McDaniels
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Re: Celtics sign Chris Boucher to 1yr deal 

Post#80 » by Duffman100 » Wed Aug 6, 2025 11:29 pm

Pointgod wrote:
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Any front office that though Boucher was coming back after our coaching staff sat him to end the year is out to lunch. We got a second round pick for Davion Mitchell. Less useful players were acquired for second round picks. I don’t think our front office shopped him particularly hard because I’m pretty sure a deal could be made.


What a bizarre conclusion to make.


It’s less bizarre than the conclusion that Chris Boucher had less value than Jaden McDaniels


It's Jalen mcdaniels and Boucher made 2-3x the contract which likely made him harder to trade.

But yes, when you look at everything from a negative lens. Sure, our FO fell asleep, simply didn't shop him and failed to get the massive haul of a 2nd round pick.

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