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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#741 » by winforlose » Tue Aug 5, 2025 8:45 am

minimus wrote:
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winforlose wrote:That said, I do expect Monte Morris to be a wolf before preseason starts.

Interesting. My expected addition is still Bones Hyland.


Whats is biggest difference between Bones Hyland and guys such as Poole, Jalen Green, Anfernee Simons, Cam Thomas in terms of archetype?

P.S. I like Monte Morris as 3rd string PG


I think Morris should play either 1st or second string. I expect Mike to struggle on both ends of the floor. I saw more decline than was comfortable last year, and I suspect it is gonna be worse this year. I would love to be wrong, but I am not sure that I am. If Dilly is gonna get 15-20 minutes at the PG, then we need Monte and Donte (yes I know they rhyme,) to pick up the rest, (assuming Mike is not rotation worthy, or not as good as the alternatives.)
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#742 » by KGdaBom » Tue Aug 5, 2025 12:47 pm

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Klomp wrote:Interesting. My expected addition is still Bones Hyland.


Whats is biggest difference between Bones Hyland and guys such as Poole, Jalen Green, Anfernee Simons, Cam Thomas in terms of archetype?

P.S. I like Monte Morris as 3rd string PG


I think Morris should play either 1st or second string. I expect Mike to struggle on both ends of the floor. I saw more decline than was comfortable last year, and I suspect it is gonna be worse this year. I would love to be wrong, but I am not sure that I am. If Dilly is gonna get 15-20 minutes at the PG, then we need Monte and Donte (yes I know they rhyme,) to pick up the rest, (assuming Mike is not rotation worthy, or not as good as the alternatives.)

While it is "possible" Minnesota Mike's play will fall off a cliff this year is there any reason to think so? I don't think so. He should be expected to give us 20 quality minutes a game and possibly more. Time will tell. I always thought it was Monty Morris pronounced like Monty Python, but after some internet research which wasn't 100% conclusive it appears to be Mon Tay and the names do indeed rhyme.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#743 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Aug 5, 2025 1:12 pm

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Whats is biggest difference between Bones Hyland and guys such as Poole, Jalen Green, Anfernee Simons, Cam Thomas in terms of archetype?

P.S. I like Monte Morris as 3rd string PG


I think Morris should play either 1st or second string. I expect Mike to struggle on both ends of the floor. I saw more decline than was comfortable last year, and I suspect it is gonna be worse this year. I would love to be wrong, but I am not sure that I am. If Dilly is gonna get 15-20 minutes at the PG, then we need Monte and Donte (yes I know they rhyme,) to pick up the rest, (assuming Mike is not rotation worthy, or not as good as the alternatives.)

While it is "possible" Minnesota Mike's play will fall off a cliff this year is there any reason to think so? I don't think so. He should be expected to give us 20 quality minutes a game and possibly more. Time will tell.


He will still play quite a bit I'd imagine. Whatever deficiencies he has scoring the ball, his on/off paints the picture that he's still a clear postive for the overall team offense. Full court pressure doens't bother him, he doesn't turn the ball over much, and his 3 point shooting remains cash. Sure we'd want more creation ability and fight on defense against bigger players if available, but can we address those concerns without sacrificing the traits Conley brings? He's an elite catch and shoot 3 point shooter for example - sacrificing that is a non-starter for me with the spacing issues we already have starting a Jaden/Randle/Gobert frontcourt.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#744 » by winforlose » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:16 pm

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I think Morris should play either 1st or second string. I expect Mike to struggle on both ends of the floor. I saw more decline than was comfortable last year, and I suspect it is gonna be worse this year. I would love to be wrong, but I am not sure that I am. If Dilly is gonna get 15-20 minutes at the PG, then we need Monte and Donte (yes I know they rhyme,) to pick up the rest, (assuming Mike is not rotation worthy, or not as good as the alternatives.)

While it is "possible" Minnesota Mike's play will fall off a cliff this year is there any reason to think so? I don't think so. He should be expected to give us 20 quality minutes a game and possibly more. Time will tell.


He will still play quite a bit I'd imagine. Whatever deficiencies he has scoring the ball, his on/off paints the picture that he's still a clear postive for the overall team offense. Full court pressure doens't bother him, he doesn't turn the ball over much, and his 3 point shooting remains cash. Sure we'd want more creation ability and fight on defense against bigger players if available, but can we address those concerns without sacrificing the traits Conley brings? He's an elite catch and shoot 3 point shooter for example - sacrificing that is a non-starter for me with the spacing issues we already have starting a Jaden/Randle/Gobert frontcourt.



If Mike can stay healthy, and Mike can avoid another fall off that would be excellent. But his defense was already weaker last year than the year before. His floater and interior game was bad for most of the season and never consistent even when it looked better. I agree Mike is great at catch and shoot, but we don’t need an undersized shooting guard parked in the corner. Monte has the same handle as Mike and is an above average 3 point shooter.

P.S, Mike’s on and off numbers could also point to how badly we need a true PG on the floor. He was the only one last year.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#745 » by Domejandro » Tue Aug 5, 2025 5:29 pm

Klomp wrote:For those wondering, we still have one roster spot (technically two) open, but we will likely have four more names added to the team ahead of training camp. Some of these may be Exhibit 10s, who would likely transfer to Iowa once the season starts.

Yep, training camp deals are now generally a mechanism to influence players to sign with your G-League affiliate team. The structure is that the players get their rooming paid for, a bit of experience practicing against NBA players, a small daily allowance, and a couple thousand bucks, and then transfer directly to the G-League team. Complete win-win, and the players (more-so their agents) still have the flexibility to hunt for guaranteed money elsewhere.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#746 » by Klomp » Tue Aug 5, 2025 8:14 pm

Juzang's shot chart from last season feels not-too-dissimilar from NAW's shot chart when we traded for him.

NAW was 39% from the corners when we traded for him. Juzang was 41% last season.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#747 » by Klomp » Tue Aug 5, 2025 8:16 pm

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Klomp wrote:For those wondering, we still have one roster spot (technically two) open, but we will likely have four more names added to the team ahead of training camp. Some of these may be Exhibit 10s, who would likely transfer to Iowa once the season starts.

Yep, training camp deals are now generally a mechanism to influence players to sign with your G-League affiliate team. The structure is that the players get their rooming paid for, a bit of experience practicing against NBA players, a small daily allowance, and a couple thousand bucks, and then transfer directly to the G-League team. Complete win-win, and the players (more-so their agents) still have the flexibility to hunt for guaranteed money elsewhere.


Point of clarification: You are describing the Exhibit 10 contracts, which differs from the Exhibit 9 training camp deal Juzang signed. If he does not make the Timberwolves, he does not currently have that direct route to Iowa.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#748 » by KGdaBom » Tue Aug 5, 2025 10:50 pm

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Klomp wrote:For those wondering, we still have one roster spot (technically two) open, but we will likely have four more names added to the team ahead of training camp. Some of these may be Exhibit 10s, who would likely transfer to Iowa once the season starts.

Yep, training camp deals are now generally a mechanism to influence players to sign with your G-League affiliate team. The structure is that the players get their rooming paid for, a bit of experience practicing against NBA players, a small daily allowance, and a couple thousand bucks, and then transfer directly to the G-League team. Complete win-win, and the players (more-so their agents) still have the flexibility to hunt for guaranteed money elsewhere.

Can players opt out of a 2 way if they get a one way offer?
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#749 » by Klomp » Wed Aug 6, 2025 6:42 pm

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#750 » by KGdaBom » Wed Aug 6, 2025 9:00 pm

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I'll see if I can get my brother to go.
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Post#751 » by shrink » Wed Aug 6, 2025 9:40 pm

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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#752 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Thu Aug 7, 2025 3:48 am

KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
minimus wrote:
Whats is biggest difference between Bones Hyland and guys such as Poole, Jalen Green, Anfernee Simons, Cam Thomas in terms of archetype?

P.S. I like Monte Morris as 3rd string PG


I think Morris should play either 1st or second string. I expect Mike to struggle on both ends of the floor. I saw more decline than was comfortable last year, and I suspect it is gonna be worse this year. I would love to be wrong, but I am not sure that I am. If Dilly is gonna get 15-20 minutes at the PG, then we need Monte and Donte (yes I know they rhyme,) to pick up the rest, (assuming Mike is not rotation worthy, or not as good as the alternatives.)

While it is "possible" Minnesota Mike's play will fall off a cliff this year is there any reason to think so? I don't think so. He should be expected to give us 20 quality minutes a game and possibly more. Time will tell. I always thought it was Monty Morris pronounced like Monty Python, but after some internet research which wasn't 100% conclusive it appears to be Mon Tay and the names do indeed rhyme.


It won't happen, for few reasons :

Mike was injured last year and did not make any pre-season preparation which is not the case this year.
We make a last min trade and we struggle to play with Randle the first months...

This won't happen this year and Mike will be good. I'm sure he will start the season strong and Rob as well. Nothing to worry!
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#753 » by cmoss84 » Thu Aug 7, 2025 4:10 am

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I'll see if I can get my brother to go.

A dandy idea. I'll check my calendar.
Oh...wait...you were talking about your OTHER brother.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#754 » by KGdaBom » Thu Aug 7, 2025 11:44 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
I think Morris should play either 1st or second string. I expect Mike to struggle on both ends of the floor. I saw more decline than was comfortable last year, and I suspect it is gonna be worse this year. I would love to be wrong, but I am not sure that I am. If Dilly is gonna get 15-20 minutes at the PG, then we need Monte and Donte (yes I know they rhyme,) to pick up the rest, (assuming Mike is not rotation worthy, or not as good as the alternatives.)

While it is "possible" Minnesota Mike's play will fall off a cliff this year is there any reason to think so? I don't think so. He should be expected to give us 20 quality minutes a game and possibly more. Time will tell. I always thought it was Monty Morris pronounced like Monty Python, but after some internet research which wasn't 100% conclusive it appears to be Mon Tay and the names do indeed rhyme.


It won't happen, for few reasons :

Mike was injured last year and did not make any pre-season preparation which is not the case this year.
We make a last min trade and we struggle to play with Randle the first months...

This won't happen this year and Mike will be good. I'm sure he will start the season strong and Rob as well. Nothing to worry!

I like the way you think. :rock: :rockon:
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#755 » by KGdaBom » Thu Aug 7, 2025 11:45 am

cmoss84 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Klomp wrote:
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I'll see if I can get my brother to go.

A dandy idea. I'll check my calendar.
Oh...wait...you were talking about your OTHER brother.

Yeah. You're my brother from another mother :) . I'm talking about my Brother from the same Mother who lives in San Diego.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#756 » by cmoss84 » Thu Aug 7, 2025 5:48 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I'll see if I can get my brother to go.

A dandy idea. I'll check my calendar.
Oh...wait...you were talking about your OTHER brother.

Yeah. You're my brother from another mother :) . I'm talking about my Brother from the same Mother who lives in San Diego.

San Diego is great! I live about 5 hours north...Bakersfield.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#757 » by KGdaBom » Thu Aug 7, 2025 7:17 pm

Bakersfield otherwise known as the Evil Empire in the Kurt Russell/Robin Williams movie The Best of Times. If you haven't seen it you have to.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#758 » by Klomp » Thu Aug 7, 2025 7:52 pm

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:It won't happen, for few reasons :

Mike was injured last year and did not make any pre-season preparation which is not the case this year.

I think it's possible this is a bigger deal than most of us realize. One of the podcasts mentioned this offseason how Conley has been healthy enough to golf this summer after not being able to all of last year.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#759 » by KGdaBom » Thu Aug 7, 2025 8:00 pm

Klomp wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:It won't happen, for few reasons :

Mike was injured last year and did not make any pre-season preparation which is not the case this year.

I think it's possible this is a bigger deal than most of us realize. One of the podcasts mentioned this offseason how Conley has been healthy enough to golf this summer after not being able to all of last year.

I can relate to Mike Conley. I used to be a regular disc golfer, but bad shoulders forced me into giving it up. Now They're better, but no Disc Golf in Dominican Republic. One course I know of for the whole country.
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Re: The 2025 Wolves Off Season 

Post#760 » by KGdaBom » Thu Aug 7, 2025 11:19 pm

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