2025 Offseason Thread Vol.6

[MettaWorldPanda]

I’ll be pretty disappointed if we refused to offer Ware for KD then follow that by demoting him to the bench.

Yep, much rather start Jovic at the 3 than demote Ware.

Jovic is 245 pounds now he’s not going to be playing SF. Spo is just not going to do that

[MettaWorldPanda]

I’ll be pretty disappointed if we refused to offer Ware for KD then follow that by demoting him to the bench.

Yep, much rather start Jovic at the 3 than demote Ware.

What if Jovic just deserves it and outplays Ware in camp? Whatever it is we should have a potent 3 man big rotation in Ware, Bam, and Jovic who should soak up a majority of the minutes.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I’ll be pretty disappointed if we refused to offer Ware for KD then follow that by demoting him to the bench.

Yep, much rather start Jovic at the 3 than demote Ware.

What if Jovic just deserves it and outplays Ware in camp? Whatever it is we should have a potent 3 man big rotation in Ware, Bam, and Jovic who should soak up a majority of the minutes.

Then to me it would be unfortunate that we made a player untouchable under any circumstances for a player the level of Kevin Durant just to see him get demoted which is likely a result of his low motor issues we’re still trying to work out

[wadenation305]

What does a guy have to do to generate some Giddler noise? It would behoof us to get a PG that was hanging triple doubles on our head and is almost as tall as our PF/C

Giddey
Herro
Jovic
Bam
Ware

That's a very solid young starting 5. Giddey would unlock Bam, Herro, and Ware

[Vertical Limit]

I’ll be pretty disappointed if we refused to offer Ware for KD then follow that by demoting him to the bench.

Something tells me Ware is on a short leash with Spo much like Beasley was.

What i took away from spo’s comments during sunmer league..

The obvious yes, spo and the fans has expectations of Ware, and wants to see a trajectory on his development, not a repeat of his rookie season..

But on a side of that, Spo wanted Durant, but he saw that the Heat did not make a serious push for Durant (there was suns reporters that said the Heat pretended to have interest for Durant to appease the Heat fans and then when they missed they can just tell us “dumb” fans that they were outbidded), even more so, the Heat reportedly would not include Ware in the trade.

So if Ware is this untouchable godly talent, that he cant be traded for all time talent like Durant, Spo wants to see the results NOW, not 2-3 years down the road. Right now.

Riley said a few weeks back that this past couple seasons have been exhausting for Spo, with the personal drama and the Butler nonsense, and the trying to coach a bunch or g leaguers into the playoffs.

Spo probably saw Durant as a way to make winning a little bit easier.. now hes left with a bunch of players on expirings, And he still has Rozier on the roster… he will play rozier powell and herro at the same time…


Just imagine if Ware ends up getting DNP like JJJ’s second season ..

[3ammy3uck3ts]

What does a guy have to do to generate some Giddler noise? It would behoof us to get a PG that was hanging triple doubles on our head and is almost as tall as our PF/C

Giddey
Herro
Jovic
Bam
Ware

That's a very solid young starting 5. Giddey would unlock Bam, Herro, and Ware

MWP and I have been talking about it quite a bit over the last month or 2 but I’m guessing they’re not interested in trying to get him unfortunately. Apparently golden state is interested though

[wadenation305]

What does a guy have to do to generate some Giddler noise? It would behoof us to get a PG that was hanging triple doubles on our head and is almost as tall as our PF/C

Giddey
Herro
Jovic
Bam
Ware

That's a very solid young starting 5. Giddey would unlock Bam, Herro, and Ware

MWP and I have been talking about it quite a bit over the last month or 2 but I’m guessing they’re not interested in trying to get him unfortunately. Apparently golden state is interested though

Of course the stuff that makes sense the FO wouldn't be into. But hey there's still the Giannis sweep stakes to look forward too. I'm sure he'll state Miami only and we can get him for a Terry Roizer swap and 2 seconds top 55 protected

[SA37]

Highsmith torn meniscus, out 8-10 weeks.

This is a big opening for Jaquez.

Highsmith will begin rehabbing from the surgery immediately, but he’s expected to miss eight to 10 weeks. The Heat will begin training camp in seven weeks on Sept. 30 and will open the regular season in 10.5 weeks.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article311636032.html

[VaDe255]

Miami's backcourt is solid already, I don’t see Giddey solving their real problems.

Herro & Davion were really good at the end of the year. There was enough playmaking, rim pressure, shooting and the on-ball defense Davion provided was a great complement. The +5.7 net rating over 642 minutes together just shows this isn't just eye test or vibes.

The real issue? The frontcourt. Bam, Ware, and Wiggins don’t provide the kind of playmaking or offensive gravity you see on other contenders. Wiggins was expected to help fill that gap, but he largely disappointed.

I think Jovic is the X factor here, if he breaks out this year, a lot would change for the better. He brings the shooting, mismatch hunting and secondary playmaking that’s missing. That would allow Bam to settle back into the center role, where his skills are maximized. While Bam is elite as a big man, he lacks the skill set of a modern forward, who usually creates gravity with handles and shooting.

I see Herro / Davion / Wiggins / Jovic / Bam as the lineup with the highest upside. It gives them enough spacing, playmaking and defensive toughness. And they still have very strong depth with Powell and Ware off the bench, plus plug-in guys like Pelle, Highsmith, and Jaquez who can do multiple things.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Highsmith torn meniscus, out 8-10 weeks.

This is a big opening for Jaquez.

Highsmith will begin rehabbing from the surgery immediately, but he’s expected to miss eight to 10 weeks. The Heat will begin training camp in seven weeks on Sept. 30 and will open the regular season in 10.5 weeks.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article311636032.html

Well see if he bounces back.

Highsmith is a punching bag but that’s a pretty decent loss for us. He’s a glue guy we need to complement the plethora of “me first” offense guys we have

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Miami's backcourt is solid already, I don’t see Giddey solving their real problems.

Herro & Davion were really good at the end of the year. There was enough playmaking, rim pressure, shooting and the on-ball defense Davion provided was a great complement. The +5.7 net rating over 642 minutes together just shows this isn't just eye test or vibes.

The real issue? The frontcourt. Bam, Ware, and Wiggins don’t provide the kind of playmaking or offensive gravity you see on other contenders. Wiggins was expected to help fill that gap, but he largely disappointed.

I think Jovic is the X factor here, if he breaks out this year, a lot would change for the better. He brings the shooting, mismatch hunting and secondary playmaking that’s missing. That would allow Bam to settle back into the center role, where his skills are maximized. While Bam is elite as a big man, he lacks the skill set of a modern forward, who usually creates gravity with handles and shooting.

I see Herro / Davion / Wiggins / Jovic / Bam as the lineup with the highest upside. It gives them enough spacing, playmaking and defensive toughness. And they still have very strong depth with Powell and Ware off the bench, plus plug-in guys like Pelle, Highsmith, and Jaquez who can do multiple things.

Wiggins and Ware provide little to no playmaking but Bam is one of the best playmaking bigs in the league. The gravity will improve with continued improvement with the 3 but defenses absolutely collapse on him in the paint. Wiggins you have a respect his jumper a little, Ware started hot from 3 then fell off a cliff. Teams realized if you just keep a body on Ware or close to him he’s pretty much not going to do anything. It’s a clunky fit for sure but if there’s improvement in a couple areas it can work. Would look a lot different with KD slotted in there

[VaDe255]

Miami's backcourt is solid already, I don’t see Giddey solving their real problems.

Herro & Davion were really good at the end of the year. There was enough playmaking, rim pressure, shooting and the on-ball defense Davion provided was a great complement. The +5.7 net rating over 642 minutes together just shows this isn't just eye test or vibes.

The real issue? The frontcourt. Bam, Ware, and Wiggins don’t provide the kind of playmaking or offensive gravity you see on other contenders. Wiggins was expected to help fill that gap, but he largely disappointed.

I think Jovic is the X factor here, if he breaks out this year, a lot would change for the better. He brings the shooting, mismatch hunting and secondary playmaking that’s missing. That would allow Bam to settle back into the center role, where his skills are maximized. While Bam is elite as a big man, he lacks the skill set of a modern forward, who usually creates gravity with handles and shooting.

I see Herro / Davion / Wiggins / Jovic / Bam as the lineup with the highest upside. It gives them enough spacing, playmaking and defensive toughness. And they still have very strong depth with Powell and Ware off the bench, plus plug-in guys like Pelle, Highsmith, and Jaquez who can do multiple things.

Wiggins and Ware provide little to no playmaking but Bam is one of the best playmaking bigs in the league. The gravity will improve with continued improvement with the 3 but defenses absolutely collapse on him in the paint. Wiggins you have a respect his jumper a little, Ware started hot from 3 then fell off a cliff. Teams realized if you just keep a body on Ware or close to him he’s pretty much not going to do anything. It’s a clunky fit for sure but if there’s improvement in a couple areas it can work. Would look a lot different with KD slotted in there

Bam is elite as a playmaking center but when you play him next to Ware and ask him to operate like a forward, things break down, because he just doesn’t have the skillset of a modern wing:

- Limited handle in space, not a guy who creates his own shot from the perimeter
- No real pull-up threat, teams don’t close out hard or fear his jumper
- Not an isolation mismatch hunter, can’t punish smaller defenders the way top forwards do

Bam is at his best in the middle of the floor, surrounded by shooters and cutters, making quick reads, setting screens and finishing plays. But Ware needs that same space, which creates a clunky, congested offensive fit.

That’s why Jovic is the swing piece. He brings the handle, shooting, and perimeter creation the frontcourt is missing and lets Bam return to what he does best as a hub.

[lastb1ckman]

Highsmith torn meniscus, out 8-10 weeks.

This is a big opening for Jaquez.

Highsmith will begin rehabbing from the surgery immediately, but he’s expected to miss eight to 10 weeks. The Heat will begin training camp in seven weeks on Sept. 30 and will open the regular season in 10.5 weeks.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article311636032.html

Yeah this is the chance for any of the young guys to make their case. Especially Jaime and Jovic. I think Larrson was gonna get time no matter what, but Jaquez needs this. Time to bounce back

[lastb1ckman]

What does a guy have to do to generate some Giddler noise? It would behoof us to get a PG that was hanging triple doubles on our head and is almost as tall as our PF/C

Giddey
Herro
Jovic
Bam
Ware

That's a very solid young starting 5. Giddey would unlock Bam, Herro, and Ware

Maybe if Giddey could defend. Herro Giddy and Jovic in one lineup would be terrible on the perimeter. Like zero point of attack defense. Like Gobert era Jazz without the A1 level offense guy to compensate.

[wadenation305]

Miami's backcourt is solid already, I don’t see Giddey solving their real problems.

Herro & Davion were really good at the end of the year. There was enough playmaking, rim pressure, shooting and the on-ball defense Davion provided was a great complement. The +5.7 net rating over 642 minutes together just shows this isn't just eye test or vibes.

The real issue? The frontcourt. Bam, Ware, and Wiggins don’t provide the kind of playmaking or offensive gravity you see on other contenders. Wiggins was expected to help fill that gap, but he largely disappointed.

I think Jovic is the X factor here, if he breaks out this year, a lot would change for the better. He brings the shooting, mismatch hunting and secondary playmaking that’s missing. That would allow Bam to settle back into the center role, where his skills are maximized. While Bam is elite as a big man, he lacks the skill set of a modern forward, who usually creates gravity with handles and shooting.

I see Herro / Davion / Wiggins / Jovic / Bam as the lineup with the highest upside. It gives them enough spacing, playmaking and defensive toughness. And they still have very strong depth with Powell and Ware off the bench, plus plug-in guys like Pelle, Highsmith, and Jaquez who can do multiple things.

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Solid point of view. I love Davion, but he should be our backup PG, he's a guy that comes in and gives you tough defense and shoots the three. But the man dribbles looking down. Giddey could organize our guys and hit them in the correct spots to maximize their effectiveness, which is what a real PG does. Besides Giddey just being flat out much more of a threat in the offensive end of things and in more ways than just putting the ball in the basket. Giddey would provide a level of gravity and pressure that Davion just won't be able to provide.

[wadenation305]

What does a guy have to do to generate some Giddler noise? It would behoof us to get a PG that was hanging triple doubles on our head and is almost as tall as our PF/C

Giddey
Herro
Jovic
Bam
Ware

That's a very solid young starting 5. Giddey would unlock Bam, Herro, and Ware

Maybe if Giddey could defend. Herro Giddy and Jovic in one lineup would be terrible on the perimeter. Like zero point of attack defense. Like Gobert era Jazz without the A1 level offense guy to compensate.

Jovic had started playing some good defense before he went down with the injury, the real weak link is Herro, because he is limited by his physical attributes.

It place a defense that would have Bam hounding people on the perimeter and everyone else a system that funnels everyone to Ware down low to cover for Herro and Giddey. Then when Giddey hits the bench you get the hounding defense of Mitchell coming in. Stagger as needed.

[lastb1ckman]

Miami's backcourt is solid already, I don’t see Giddey solving their real problems.

Herro & Davion were really good at the end of the year. There was enough playmaking, rim pressure, shooting and the on-ball defense Davion provided was a great complement. The +5.7 net rating over 642 minutes together just shows this isn't just eye test or vibes.

The real issue? The frontcourt. Bam, Ware, and Wiggins don’t provide the kind of playmaking or offensive gravity you see on other contenders. Wiggins was expected to help fill that gap, but he largely disappointed.

I think Jovic is the X factor here, if he breaks out this year, a lot would change for the better. He brings the shooting, mismatch hunting and secondary playmaking that’s missing. That would allow Bam to settle back into the center role, where his skills are maximized. While Bam is elite as a big man, he lacks the skill set of a modern forward, who usually creates gravity with handles and shooting.

I see Herro / Davion / Wiggins / Jovic / Bam as the lineup with the highest upside. It gives them enough spacing, playmaking and defensive toughness. And they still have very strong depth with Powell and Ware off the bench, plus plug-in guys like Pelle, Highsmith, and Jaquez who can do multiple things.

Wiggins and Ware provide little to no playmaking but Bam is one of the best playmaking bigs in the league. The gravity will improve with continued improvement with the 3 but defenses absolutely collapse on him in the paint. Wiggins you have a respect his jumper a little, Ware started hot from 3 then fell off a cliff. Teams realized if you just keep a body on Ware or close to him he’s pretty much not going to do anything. It’s a clunky fit for sure but if there’s improvement in a couple areas it can work. Would look a lot different with KD slotted in there

Tbh, I think Ware has a bit of playmaking potential, he ain't Whiteside. Like enough to move the ball. I think he can improve that over the next couple seasons.

I do think it there's a high chance in world without a starting PG on this team, that they lean more on Bam and Jovic as ball handlers. Especially if Bam has good chemistry with Powell. Like how the dynasty Warriors would run with Steph and Klay off Draymond as the hub. Herro and Powell have the off ball juice and Bam can easily replicate Draymond.

[Wiltside]

Year 4 Niko is going to breakout.

[SA37]

Highsmith torn meniscus, out 8-10 weeks.

This is a big opening for Jaquez.

Highsmith will begin rehabbing from the surgery immediately, but he’s expected to miss eight to 10 weeks. The Heat will begin training camp in seven weeks on Sept. 30 and will open the regular season in 10.5 weeks.

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/article311636032.html

Yeah this is the chance for any of the young guys to make their case. Especially Jaime and Jovic. I think Larrson was gonna get time no matter what, but Jaquez needs this. Time to bounce back

His defense could win him playing time over Jaquez.

[twix2500]

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