The 2025 Wolves Off Season

[KGdaBom]

No I don't. I just think there is a strong likelihood that these people are mentally ill and they should not be denied mental health services because of a faulty agenda. As for condition they were born with environment plays a big part in this condition.

Wow...Just wow.

You have decided that people with different beliefs than yours must be mentally ill.

Maybe you need to look in the mirror...

I never said MUST. I said may be. I don't get the need to create a straw man. A person with a penis insisting they are female or one with a vagina insisting they are male may be mentally ill. It's certainly worth considering the possibility. Do you believe that is not a possibility? OK, I'm done for real. If anybody wants to discuss more I'm open to discussing not accusing/name calling in PM

[Mattya]

In what way am I forcing anything on you. There is no force. I'm discussing a topic that is sensitive for many. I'm exercising freedom of speech and expression and it seems you want to silence me. I'm also not calling you mentally ill even if you have dissociative gender disorder. I'm just saying we should have the opportunity to consider the possibility.

Wait so the Timberwolves asking you a question on how you identify(where they gave you an option that fit what you describe as) is forcing an agenda, but here is a direct quote from YOU earlier

If they're going to promote their agenda I'm going to promote mine.

If promoting their agenda is "forced" to you, then you are forcing your agenda onto us. Sorry can't have it both ways unless you want to admit you are just being a hypocrite. You might need to take an some time you just keep contradicting yourself with every post. Take a breath, think about what you are going to say, it would save a lot of time.

I often make a post off the cuff/shooting from the hip, but in this case it hardly applies. I later edit and improve my posts when I deem it needed.

Show me where I ever said anything was forced on anybody. Forced is your construct/stance not mine. I don't see a single thing I've posted on this subject as contradictory and if you apply logic you won't either.

Okay explain how these people are being denied mental health treatment by a "faulty agenda"

As for the bolded. It would be smarter to just delete them all.

[Mattya]

Poster admits he is editing old posts.. Then is like "SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT" you can't make up the clownery.

[KGdaBom]

Poster admits he is editing old posts.. Then is like "SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT" you can't make up the clownery.

Everybody should edit their posts from time to time. Don't you? Usually the posts I edit are not very old. Most of the time within minutes. The edit feature is available for a good reason. You continue with the name calling. Clownery. Nice word. I think you did make that one up.

[BlacJacMac]

Poster admits he is editing old posts.. Then is like "SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT" you can't make up the clownery.

Everybody should edit their posts from time to time. Don't you? The edit feature is available for a good reason. You continue with the name calling. Clownery. Nice word. I think you did make that one up.

Real word. Also not name calling.

[KGdaBom]

Poster admits he is editing old posts.. Then is like "SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT" you can't make up the clownery.

Everybody should edit their posts from time to time. Don't you? The edit feature is available for a good reason. You continue with the name calling. Clownery. Nice word. I think you did make that one up.

Real word. Also not name calling.

Thanks for the fact checking.
Yes, "clownery" is a word. It is a noun that refers to clownish behavior or an instance of clownish behavior. It can also be described as buffoonery, fooling around, or tomfoolery. The word has been in use since the late 16th century.

It is the first time I've ever seen the word used in my 66 years on the planet. When a person says somebody is acting like a clown, or worse a buffoon, there is very little difference from calling them a clown or buffoon. To me it's name calling. If you see it differently that's your prerogative.

[Klomp]

ANYWAYS....

Read on Twitter

[Mattya]

Everybody should edit their posts from time to time. Don't you? The edit feature is available for a good reason. You continue with the name calling. Clownery. Nice word. I think you did make that one up.

Real word. Also not name calling.

Thanks for the fact checking. It is the first time I've ever seen the word used in my 66 years on the planet. When a person says somebody is acting like a clown there is very little difference from calling them a clown. To me it's name calling. If you see it differently that's your prerogative.

Oh no the guy calling people mentally ill is offended everyone. Typical bully behavior to antagonize then cry foul when it comes back to them.

Weird I just got a private message from you saying you wouldn't be commenting anymore in this thread.

as for the rest of your message, yes I will call you mentally ill for the things you posted in this thread, yes people have different opinions and beliefs than you. That doesn't equal mental illness. Sorry Karen that you got push back on your garbage beliefs.

[KGdaBom]

ANYWAYS....

Read on Twitter

18 years is a long time.

[KGdaBom]

Real word. Also not name calling.

Thanks for the fact checking. It is the first time I've ever seen the word used in my 66 years on the planet. When a person says somebody is acting like a clown there is very little difference from calling them a clown. To me it's name calling. If you see it differently that's your prerogative.

Oh no the guy calling people mentally ill is offended everyone. Typical bully behavior to antagonize then cry foul when it comes back to them.

Weird I just got a private message from you saying you wouldn't be commenting anymore in this thread.

as for the rest of your message, yes I will call you mentally ill for the things you posted in this thread, yes people have different opinions and beliefs than you. That doesn't equal mental illness. Sorry Karen that you got push back on your garbage beliefs.

I said I wouldn't be commenting any more on the subject of Gender Identity in the open forum. I don't think I have and I apologize if I did. So I'm a mentally ill, bully and a Karen. Is a Karen a sensitive person who is easily offended? I'll Google it.
Karen is a pejorative slang term typically used to refer to a middle class woman who is perceived as entitled or excessively demanding. The term is often portrayed in memes depicting middle-class white women who "use their white and class privilege to demand their own way".
Great I now have a better understanding of the term.
Thanks for removing all doubts about whether you are name calling or not. Per the comment I'm replying to I'm a mentally ill, bully, Karen. 3 names in one post just because I disagree with your opinions. A trifecta.
You are using pejorative terms to attack a fellow poster. It says a lot about your character.

[Mattya]

Thanks for the fact checking. It is the first time I've ever seen the word used in my 66 years on the planet. When a person says somebody is acting like a clown there is very little difference from calling them a clown. To me it's name calling. If you see it differently that's your prerogative.

Oh no the guy calling people mentally ill is offended everyone. Typical bully behavior to antagonize then cry foul when it comes back to them.

Weird I just got a private message from you saying you wouldn't be commenting anymore in this thread.

as for the rest of your message, yes I will call you mentally ill for the things you posted in this thread, yes people have different opinions and beliefs than you. That doesn't equal mental illness. Sorry Karen that you got push back on your garbage beliefs.

I said I wouldn't be commenting any more on the subject of Gender Identity in the open forum. I don't think I have and I apologize if I did. So I'm a mentally ill, bully and a Karen. Is a Karen a sensitive person who is easily offended? I'll Google it.
Karen is a pejorative slang term typically used to refer to a middle class woman who is perceived as entitled or excessively demanding. The term is often portrayed in memes depicting middle-class white women who "use their white and class privilege to demand their own way".
Great I now have a better understanding of the term.
Thanks for removing all doubts about whether you are name calling or not. Per the comment I'm replying to I'm a mentally ill, bully, Karen. 3 names in one post just because I disagree with your opinions. A trifecta.
You are using pejorative terms to attack a fellow poster. It says a lot about your character.

You are a walking victim complex. You started this by whining about the Wolves being inclusive to people you called mentally ill. Now you are crying again because you got called names... pathetic

[Neeva]

Your Voice Matters To Us
Minnesota Timberwolves <FansFirst@timberwolves.com>

I got a survey from the Timberwolves and gave a lot of heartfelt answers where I was almost certain somebody was going to contact me, but I blew it on the last question which was which gender do you identify with. The choices were male Female and self describe. I self described that I'm a proud heterosexual male who really likes women. I'm sure that got me blacklisted.

Should have put you identified as a 60+ year old annoying baby!

[KGdaBom]

Your Voice Matters To Us
Minnesota Timberwolves <FansFirst@timberwolves.com>

I got a survey from the Timberwolves and gave a lot of heartfelt answers where I was almost certain somebody was going to contact me, but I blew it on the last question which was which gender do you identify with. The choices were male Female and self describe. I self described that I'm a proud heterosexual male who really likes women. I'm sure that got me blacklisted.

Should have put you identified as a 60+ year old annoying baby!

I gave you a +1 because you made me laugh.
I identified as a 66 year old passionate Wolves fan first and foremost. 2nd as a proud heterosexual male who really likes women. I decided to share that here to elicit support and or discussion. I got some support in the form of +1s. I got discussion in the form of BlackJackMac. I got attacked and misrepresented in the form of Mattya. He doesn't seem to like discussion. Just blind adherence to his way of thinking. As stated I will participate in no more discussion of Gender Identity unless it's done in PM and only if it's done in the form of discussion and not name calling. You're welcome to discuss in PM if you want to. If not can it with the personal attacks.

[Mattya]

Your Voice Matters To Us
Minnesota Timberwolves <FansFirst@timberwolves.com>

I got a survey from the Timberwolves and gave a lot of heartfelt answers where I was almost certain somebody was going to contact me, but I blew it on the last question which was which gender do you identify with. The choices were male Female and self describe. I self described that I'm a proud heterosexual male who really likes women. I'm sure that got me blacklisted.

Should have put you identified as a 60+ year old annoying baby!

I gave you a +1 because you made me laugh.
I identified as a 66 year old passionate Wolves fan first and foremost. 2nd as a proud heterosexual male who really likes women. I decided to share that here to elicit support and or discussion. I got some support in the form of +1s. I got discussion in the form of BlackJackMac. I got attacked and misrepresented in the form of Mattya. He doesn't seem to like discussion. Just blind adherence to his way of thinking. As stated I will participate in no more discussion of Gender Identity unless it's done in PM and only if it's done in the form of discussion and not name calling. You're welcome to discuss in PM if you want to. If not can it with the personal attacks.

Just remember the first person to name call and generalize here was you. You got called out for it. Started editing your old posts to make them not as garbage tier, and now you want to post this? You really do need help...

[cmoss84]

Ya"ll have different fish to fry than me. I love this site because of versatility, intelligence, and character. You guys are pretty cool.
It's obvious the off season provides bananas es ism.
Cheers everyone

[KGdaBom]

Should have put you identified as a 60+ year old annoying baby!

I gave you a +1 because you made me laugh.
I identified as a 66 year old passionate Wolves fan first and foremost. 2nd as a proud heterosexual male who really likes women. I decided to share that here to elicit support and or discussion. I got some support in the form of +1s. I got discussion in the form of BlackJackMac. I got attacked and misrepresented in the form of Mattya. He doesn't seem to like discussion. Just blind adherence to his way of thinking. As stated I will participate in no more discussion of Gender Identity unless it's done in PM and only if it's done in the form of discussion and not name calling. You're welcome to discuss in PM if you want to. If not can it with the personal attacks.

Just remember the first person to name call and generalize here was you. You got called out for it. Started editing your old posts to make them not as garbage tier, and now you want to post this? You really do need help...

I did no editing of my very recent posts to make them less garbage tier. They are not and never were garbage tier. You in desperation are trying to act like I did large scale editing to cover my tracks. It never happened. When you start name calling, and misrepresenting me it's prima facie evidence that you have already lost in any debate we were having. I wanted discussion. You never responded with discussion. Just ad hominem
1. in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
and straw man attacks
1. an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument..

[Mattya]

I gave you a +1 because you made me laugh.
I identified as a 66 year old passionate Wolves fan first and foremost. 2nd as a proud heterosexual male who really likes women. I decided to share that here to elicit support and or discussion. I got some support in the form of +1s. I got discussion in the form of BlackJackMac. I got attacked and misrepresented in the form of Mattya. He doesn't seem to like discussion. Just blind adherence to his way of thinking. As stated I will participate in no more discussion of Gender Identity unless it's done in PM and only if it's done in the form of discussion and not name calling. You're welcome to discuss in PM if you want to. If not can it with the personal attacks.

Just remember the first person to name call and generalize here was you. You got called out for it. Started editing your old posts to make them not as garbage tier, and now you want to post this? You really do need help...

I did no editing of my very recent posts to make them less garbage tier. They are not and never were garbage tier. You in desperation are trying to act like I did large scale editing to cover my tracks. It never happened. When you start name calling, and misrepresenting me it's prima facie evidence that you have already lost in any debate we were having. I wanted discussion. You never responded with discussion. Just ad hominem
1. in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
and straw man attacks
1. an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument..

"I did no editing of my very recent posts to make them less garbage tier"

You cant polish a turd.

KGDaBom... You literally claimed you were the victim of a survey because the survey included and ideology you call flawed and the people mentally ill(ad homenim). You got a taste of your own medicine then starting crying about "name calling simply because we disagreed"(intentionally misrepresented the facts).

If name calling is a sign that you lost the debate, doesn't that mean you lost since you were the first one name calling and playing victim?

[KGdaBom]

Just remember the first person to name call and generalize here was you. You got called out for it. Started editing your old posts to make them not as garbage tier, and now you want to post this? You really do need help...

I did no editing of my very recent posts to make them less garbage tier. They are not and never were garbage tier. You in desperation are trying to act like I did large scale editing to cover my tracks. It never happened. When you start name calling, and misrepresenting me it's prima facie evidence that you have already lost in any debate we were having. I wanted discussion. You never responded with discussion. Just ad hominem
1. in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
and straw man attacks
1. an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument..

"I did no editing of my very recent posts to make them less garbage tier"

You cant polish a turd.

KGDaBom... You literally claimed you were the victim of a survey because the survey included and ideology you call flawed and the people mentally ill(ad homenim). You got a taste of your own medicine then starting crying about "name calling simply because we disagreed"(intentionally misrepresented the facts).

If name calling is a sign that you lost the debate, doesn't that mean you lost since you were the first one name calling and playing victim?

You really like to move the goalposts. In your prior post you were accusing me of falsifying the evidence by editing to drastically change the content. It never happened.
I was debating with you (being very generous to call your vicious attacks debate) and never called you a name. You constantly called me names. I maintained the high road. You're trying to goad me into discussing what I said I wouldn't, but it won't work. Your underhanded tactics are an insult to civil discourse.

[Folklore]

Should have put you identified as a 60+ year old annoying baby!

I gave you a +1 because you made me laugh.
I identified as a 66 year old passionate Wolves fan first and foremost. 2nd as a proud heterosexual male who really likes women. I decided to share that here to elicit support and or discussion. I got some support in the form of +1s. I got discussion in the form of BlackJackMac. I got attacked and misrepresented in the form of Mattya. He doesn't seem to like discussion. Just blind adherence to his way of thinking. As stated I will participate in no more discussion of Gender Identity unless it's done in PM and only if it's done in the form of discussion and not name calling. You're welcome to discuss in PM if you want to. If not can it with the personal attacks.

Just remember the first person to name call and generalize here was you. You got called out for it. Started editing your old posts to make them not as garbage tier, and now you want to post this? You really do need help...

What's going on here? I unfortunately tend to disagree with KG a lot on here but from what I'm seeing (I may be wrong) are white knights who are insulted for someone's behalf. KG didn't use direct insults towards those here from what I read. The method of speaking for the mentally ill by tossing insults in a emotionally immature way doesn't help them. For those who realizes that they are in fact ill and seek help who are you to decide that what they see as a problem is deemed an insult when its their truth? Lets get back to basketball.

[Mattya]

I gave you a +1 because you made me laugh.
I identified as a 66 year old passionate Wolves fan first and foremost. 2nd as a proud heterosexual male who really likes women. I decided to share that here to elicit support and or discussion. I got some support in the form of +1s. I got discussion in the form of BlackJackMac. I got attacked and misrepresented in the form of Mattya. He doesn't seem to like discussion. Just blind adherence to his way of thinking. As stated I will participate in no more discussion of Gender Identity unless it's done in PM and only if it's done in the form of discussion and not name calling. You're welcome to discuss in PM if you want to. If not can it with the personal attacks.

Just remember the first person to name call and generalize here was you. You got called out for it. Started editing your old posts to make them not as garbage tier, and now you want to post this? You really do need help...

What's going on here? I unfortunately tend to disagree with KG a lot on here but from what I'm seeing (I may be wrong) are white knights who are insulted for someone's behalf. KG didn't use direct insults towards those here from what I read. The method of speaking for the mentally ill by tossing insults in an emotionally immature way doesn't help them. For those who realizes that they are in fact ill and seek help who are you to decide that what they see as a problem is deemed an insult when its their truth? Let’s get back to basketball.

Wait…

So you are saying that it is okay to generalize a group people(who by KGs own edits may not actually be mentally ill) and calling that out is “white knighting” and it’s “emotionally immature” to insult those beliefs because it is their truth? Is it bad to stand up for people who are being insulted and generalized in your opinion?

Do those people who don’t identify as male or female not get to live their truth? How is yours or kgs truth any more important than their’s or are you the only ones that get to call people mentally ill. Do those people not get to be recognized by a team they might be a fan of?

Or is it only lets get back to basketball for people who think like you?